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Even with the use of the spoil tag I can now guess the spoiler @commandbond007. :-<
I know I had the same reaction too.
:-w
It's the same spoiler as the teaser trailer thread so I already had it ruined before I read it.
Totally agree,there was abolutely no need for the line and you can see Connery is battling damn hard to keep a straight face.
Tiffany is a nobody,a smuggler,she doesnt even move in the same circles as Bond.
And Connery's line "well it just proves no-ones indestructable"....where the hell in DN,FRWL,GF,TB,YOLT,OHMSS do we see an 'indestructable Bond.
Another example "you've got a lot of guts showing your face around here...after letting me freeze my behind off at a blackjack table for 2 hours...and what the hell is my black wig doing in the pool??
Not sure whether to laugh or cringe at her delivery.
:-O :O
Fat Connery's delivery of "this chap's been following me all day today" is pretty poor too.
But the scene that follows is terrible,Connery doesnt even bother to disguise his Scottish accent..very lazy stuff.
And I also find it very hard to enjoy by virtue of the scenes that encapsulate it. If the succeeding dialogue, the basis for this thread, wasn't bad enough, I find Connery's ridiculous Dutch interpretation which sets up the scene, just as cringeworthy: "Who is your floor" :-& It's so stupid!
If Bond was ever turned into a clown, it happened before the Moore era...
I mean it's night so not everyone could be out and about surely ?
(Unless they are all in the Red Light District of course...phoooaaarrr !!)
Well, I guess that's not like the only incoherent, obnoxious plot hole in DAF, is it? :))
hahaha no...its got more plot holes than this :
Poor acting from both of them and this scene STILL bloody annoys me,even if the film has risen a few places on my list recently overall.
But it's best to view DAF as the '60s Adam West Batman version of James Bond. It doesn't make sense otherwise.
Not so much poor acting from Connery as an impossibility to act this one straight I think. There was just no way he could save that line.
Contrast that with Jason Bourne, who's forever trying to find low-key means of traveling, moving in the shadows, sleeping at cash-by-the-hour hotels and speaking different languages. Or The Saint/Ethan Hunt, who are masters of disguise.
Bond is a 'secret agent' only insofar as that's a really cool job title to have - mostly he lives and operates out in public.
"Tell him he's fired"
Good point.
I don't like the idea, but in Diamonds Are Forever I find that it actually fits the story and Bond's overall actions in it quite well. In my head canon, since the end of OHMSS Bond has been on the hunt for Blofeld, running through all his past associates like a madman trying to get a hint on where he's hiding out at. By doing so, Bond is putting himself out there and his reckless actions to get Blofeld at any cost has blown any cover he could hope to have. As we see in the opening of DAF, Bond is out in public, threatening people in the open in a way that makes him very obvious to anyone who knows who he is. SPECTRE had already known what the spy looked like since Dr. No, as they had to to make the mask the agent wears in the pre-title of From Russia with Love, so Bond was already too well known to the organization even years prior.
By the time that Diamonds Are Forever came around, Bond had faced Blofeld countless times, and had no doubt made an infamous name for himself in the criminal underworld. "Watch out for that Brit, James Bond," many criminals probably said in all major industries in the underbelly, "he nearly smoked out SPECTRE." Because SPECTRE had to have been known and feared worldwide, almost to the point of crippling respect, criminals had to have also heard about the crazy spy who constantly stopped their big schemes. Inadvertently, Bond had gained some celebrity, and probably respect from the underworld for his boldness and durability. His reckless pursuit of Blofeld after Tracy's death would've only made him name and his actions more widespread to those "in the know" behind the veil.
By the time he meets with Tiffany in Amsterdam, the woman had no doubt heard tales for years about Bond, the man who conquered SPECTRE countless times, simply through her connections in the smuggling underworld that Blofeld and his associates no doubt had a slice of. In this way the movie is actually showing the consequences of Bond's fight with Blofeld, both before and after Tracy's death. In real life Bond would've been forced to retire from service by M, as he'd become known to the enemy and was a liability, with the inability to work undercover in any capacity. In the fantasy world of Bond, however, he is kept in the game and we see the effects over many years of the same man being put on missions involving a foe that knows him as well as he knows them. In short, Blofeld and Bond destroy each other.
So in a way Mankiewicz was adding reality to what many call a "campy" time for Bond by showing that the man and how he'd acted could never escape being well known to criminals. It's one of the more interesting parts of the film for me, and shows that Bond's actions don't go unnoticed. He has built a reputation for himself amongst the criminal classes and it comes back to bite him, even for all the good he did to get that name.
Bond is escapist fantasy. Movie Bond is a blunt instrument on assignment. His reputation precedes him, at least in the connected underworld circles he operates in, and he doesn't much care.
Tiffany is aware of Bond's rep, but she doesn't know what he looks like. She thinks Peter Franks is Bond, so Bond works with this.
And as @JBFan626 mentions, the filmmakers are very self aware by this point.
Bond has become a global phenomenon. They are working with this too, with this audience awareness, especially considering DAF features the return of the iconic Connery.
DAF is a transition film to some extent. The '60s are done. Bond is now operating out of his time.
The '60's films were all made within 3-6 years of the published source material
DAF though was made almost 20 years after the fact. The approach going forward will now be different.