Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • buddyoldchapbuddyoldchap Formerly known as JeremyBondon
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    I don't like ATJ his face, nor his voice. He really is a poundland proposition. Too street, like Craig. Bring back the suave gentleman, with an edge.
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    I don't like ATJ his face, nor his voice. He really is a poundland proposition. Too street, like Craig. Bring back the suave gentleman, with an edge.

    I’m afraid those don’t exist anymore. Or are a dying bread. Really. It’s really sad, but I’m afraid these are the times we’re living, when the gentleman spy is but a thing of the past. Finding an actor to play the role is as difficult as finding a man like Bond himself nowadays, I think.
  • buddyoldchapbuddyoldchap Formerly known as JeremyBondon
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    Univex wrote: »
    I don't like ATJ his face, nor his voice. He really is a poundland proposition. Too street, like Craig. Bring back the suave gentleman, with an edge.

    I’m afraid those don’t exist anymore. Or are a dying bread. Really. It’s really sad, but I’m afraid these are the times we’re living, when the gentleman spy is but a thing of the past. Finding an actor to play the role is as difficult as finding a man like Bond himself nowadays, I think.

    You are most likely right, they are scarce and far and few in between... However, there is one lad from Dublin who I'd like to mention... One Ai...

    G'night ;)
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    peter wrote: »
    I don't think naming a POC is race baiting. I just don't.... AND...

    I STILL think Sope is the best candidate. He's alpha, he has great fashion and looks good in most things he wears, he's athletic, has swagger...

    I don't care what his skin color is. He exudes all the traits I want to see in Bond, and the other candidates don't have them like this guy does.

    And I don't have an agenda. I just don't, lol. I just find this actor very appealing on all fronts-- it's as simple as that.

    And I understand why others disagree with me. Doesn't make that person a racist, and it doesn't mean I have an agenda, lol!

    It's just an opinion.

    I also think casting a man of color has problems when it comes to marketing and distribution in certain countries. I just don't see it happening just yet. At one time I thought it was possible, not anymore.

    Sadly.

    I think there's still a chance. They changed Dr. Who into a woman without much problem. I agree he's the best candidate at the moment, although I don't think much of him myself. He's just the best of a not very special bunch, in my opinion.

    Without much problem? I don't know about that, it caused a bit of noise. Chibnall wanted a female Doctor from the outset, and I suspect cast the first actress he could think of, without stopping to think of whether she could do it. She was badly miscast, but his awful writing certainly didn't help.

    Well I don't watch the show so I can't comment on the quality. I know some people weren't keen on it, but enough people seemed to like it or at least thought it was good enough. Did the ratings drop significantly?

    Her first episode pulled in (over a seven day period) 10.54M views, while her last pulled in 5.1M view. Though the lowest of her era, was one of the specials which had 3.4M, the lowest in Doctor Who history. The overnight figures are even worse (so it is being generous to look at the 7 day figures). Compared to her predecessor who had a slightly higher high, and not quite as low a low. The decline has been happening for some time.

    The ratings got worse and worse because it was shit (I didn’t watch past her first season personally). Nothing to do with her being a woman and the initial success shows that.

    And even though it caused a bit of noise at the time, I think the point George was making is, is anybody bothered now? You didn’t want a woman Doctor Who, you still watch it. I bet most of the fans against it still do, and obviously that’s not all the fans in the first place, let alone the whole audience.

    I don’t know if the same would be true of a black or asian actor as Bond though. Sometimes I think it would be. But Doctor Who’s so different that I don’t think you can compare them the same way. People expect big sudden changes with that show, it’s baked into its DNA, reboots itself every few years. Bond has changed a lot but it’s always been a bit more incremental. And changing his race unfortunately seems to me like it’d be a bigger deal than it would’ve been a decade or so ago. I think Sope could be good but part of me wonders if it’s the right time.

    The first episode would likely pull in more view due to it featuring a new star (not a hard rule, just a general rule), regardless of who it was. I can only speak for myself, but I checked out during her first series, only dipping backing at the end. And I didn't say that it it was because the new Doctor was a woman. I mean, it might be. But that isn't for me to say. The Doctor can be changed in ways that Bond can't, or shouldn't, my point being it isn't the right role to show how to cast the new Bond.
    Univex wrote: »
    That photo was taken 8 years ago. Unfortunately, now Aidan is too old, fat and bald to play Bond. He has aged terribly (please note the sarcasm) ;)

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    Still my favourite.

    Now for the next post, someone will lecture us on posting photos of Aidan Turner, which is somewhat distraughting to some who find them too canonical and square. We mustn’t, we really mustn’t. Let the Chalamet/ Dirisu supporters chime in with their respectively shiny man dresses and muscle clad brutes pictures.

    Now now, just good fun ;)

    With just a little age to him, he looks even more Bond like. I said it years ago. Him or Cavill, i'd be happy with either casting.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Univex wrote: »
    If I were a betting man…

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    Also, here’s the interview: https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/a44730888/aaron-taylor-johnson-interview-2023/

    It has to be him. ATJ is the next Bond, I'm almost certain of it.

    Have you heard him speak? Does that not give you some pause?
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    talos7 wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    If I were a betting man…

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    Also, here’s the interview: https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/a44730888/aaron-taylor-johnson-interview-2023/

    It has to be him. ATJ is the next Bond, I'm almost certain of it.

    Have you heard him speak? Does that not give you some pause?

    It does. It really does. And, for me, voice matters. But I do think it will be him, regardless. Oh well, maybe he can work on his accent (and brush off the americanisms) and lower his voice… a lot. But I do dislike his voice, yes. And his personal style. It’s as awful as it can get, IMO.
  • Yep, it's ATJ. And Nolan knows it, which is why he reacted the way he did when ATJ's potential screentest was mentioned in that recent podcast interview.
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    Nolan + ATJ would be a wonderful combo, IMO.
  • buddyoldchapbuddyoldchap Formerly known as JeremyBondon
    edited August 2023 Posts: 190
    Univex wrote: »
    Nolan + ATJ would be a wonderful combo, IMO.

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  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    Yep, it's ATJ. And Nolan knows it, which is why he reacted the way he did when ATJ's potential screentest was mentioned in that recent podcast interview.

    What interview was this mate?
  • Junglist_1985Junglist_1985 Los Angeles
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    Yep, it's ATJ. And Nolan knows it, which is why he reacted the way he did when ATJ's potential screentest was mentioned in that recent podcast interview.

    It was quite the squirm from Nolan wasn’t it?
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    edited August 2023 Posts: 3,152
    Dan was out of contract in 2015 - Cubby would've hired Aidan Turner the same week that SP left theatres and we'd be on his fourth film by now. Probably. ;)
  • QsCatQsCat London
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    Anyone? Sope? Several of you are claiming he is the best candidate but I am still waiting for the evidence.
    I haven’t seen ATJ in much aside from Kick Ass and The Kings Man, but what is there out there that suggests he is even a half decent actor? It all seems to be tabloid hype. He seems to spend more time in the gym/working on raising his eyebrow than anything else. When Craig was announced, I had a half dozen incredible films to watch, which convinced me. Plus Our friends in the North!
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    I am trying, but not digging ATJ yet. All I am going by is my instinctive reaction looking at photos and video clips of him. I have not seen any films he has been in (I think).
    My first thought was "I don't want Bond to look like Wolverine."

    Sorry. I have a good friend here who says ATJ is a good actor and really likes him for Bond. I will try ... just not picturing it yet.

    When Daniel Craig was announced, I remember liking him in that brief role in Tomb Raider but immediately thought: blonde? what? overall, no thanks ... (I had not seen Layer Cake yet). BUT from the get-go, in Casino Royale, in the theatre I was completely sold on him being Bond. Due to his natural presence and his fine acting and the rest of that movie just cemented him as Bond for me. Being in a great Bond film helped, but he definitely won me over with his acting, attitude, his whole portrayal right away.

    I can only hope that if ATJ is Bond, it will be a great transformation for him (I need to see more gravitas and also elegance) and that I am again won over. We shall see. I am still hoping it is someone not yet mentioned, to be honest.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    edited August 2023 Posts: 3,152
    I think Peter's explained it really well already, tbh. To recap, Sope's got the required masculine Alpha presence and physicality; he looks convincing in a fight; he's good at playing a dangerous man but carries a sense of intelligence and decency too; he looks good in just about anything, formal and casual; it wouldn't be a stretch to think he'd be capable of seducing women of the calibre of Monica Bellucci; and he's good with humour too. (Were you not amused when the crime boss in Gangs of London said 'You beat up seven men?!' and Sope said 'Eight. But I had a dart, so...' ?). These are all things that the actor who plays Bond needs to have, no? I'd say that Sope's got em.
    Dan's my favourite Bond and I'd seen plenty of his work before he was cast but, honestly, nothing in his pre-CR roles suggested Bond to me, including Layer Cake. To be fair, no, I don't think that Sope would be as good as Craig, but then I don't think that anyone would - I actually agree with BB that Dan was the best actor of that mid-'90s to mid-'00s generation. But in Gangs of London, I thought that Sope showed far more of the characteristics required for an actor to play Bond than Dan had in any of his pre-Bond work. And certainly more than any of the other recently-suggested candidates, a lot of whom seem pretty lightweight in comparison. All of this IMO, obvs.
  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan Being chauffeured by Tibbett
    edited August 2023 Posts: 684
    QsCat wrote: »
    Anyone? Sope? Several of you are claiming he is the best candidate but I am still waiting for the evidence.
    I haven’t seen ATJ in much aside from Kick Ass and The Kings Man, but what is there out there that suggests he is even a half decent actor? It all seems to be tabloid hype. He seems to spend more time in the gym/working on raising his eyebrow than anything else. When Craig was announced, I had a half dozen incredible films to watch, which convinced me. Plus Our friends in the North!

    I thought ATJ was great as John Lennon in Nowhere Boy and he was very funny in Bullet Train. Admittedly neither really indicate he has the right stuff for Bond, but regardless, he is a great actor and not just a smirking wannabe.
  • edited August 2023 Posts: 579
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    Yep, it's ATJ. And Nolan knows it, which is why he reacted the way he did when ATJ's potential screentest was mentioned in that recent podcast interview.

    What interview was this mate?

    https://youtu.be/eWBJ-60L8Lg?t=1501
  • Yep, it's ATJ. And Nolan knows it, which is why he reacted the way he did when ATJ's potential screentest was mentioned in that recent podcast interview.

    It was quite the squirm from Nolan wasn’t it?

    Yes, it was. The only thing I don't get is why Nolan was not squirming when Bond was brought up. He started to squirm only when ATJ was mentioned. Could it be possible that Nolan knows ATJ is the next Bond, but Nolan has not signed on to direct yet?
  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan Being chauffeured by Tibbett
    edited August 2023 Posts: 684
    Yep, it's ATJ. And Nolan knows it, which is why he reacted the way he did when ATJ's potential screentest was mentioned in that recent podcast interview.

    It was quite the squirm from Nolan wasn’t it?

    Yes, it was. The only thing I don't get is why Nolan was not squirming when Bond was brought up. He started to squirm only when ATJ was mentioned. Could it be possible that Nolan knows ATJ is the next Bond, but Nolan has not signed on to direct yet?

    Was he squirming? He didn't seem flustered or try to quickly change the subject, he just said he's a great actor. It sounds like he was just trying to be diplomatic more than anything.
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    talos7 wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    If I were a betting man…

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    Also, here’s the interview: https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/a44730888/aaron-taylor-johnson-interview-2023/

    It has to be him. ATJ is the next Bond, I'm almost certain of it.

    Have you heard him speak? Does that not give you some pause?

    He’ll need to work on his voice. Then again, both Connery and Lazenby had voice coaching before they took on Bond too
  • buddyoldchapbuddyoldchap Formerly known as JeremyBondon
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    talos7 wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    If I were a betting man…

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    Also, here’s the interview: https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/a44730888/aaron-taylor-johnson-interview-2023/

    It has to be him. ATJ is the next Bond, I'm almost certain of it.

    Have you heard him speak? Does that not give you some pause?

    He’ll need to work on his voice. Then again, both Connery and Lazenby had voice coaching before they took on Bond too

    At least they had a baritone voice to work with. ATJ sounds like a 14 year old. Apart from that, he always comes across rather smug in every role he's in. He does not have the Bond factor. Neither did Craig, to me anyway.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    edited August 2023 Posts: 24,182
    SIS_HQ wrote: »
    @Benny
    Acting is in my blood. I have grey hair. I can sing and I don't have a Welsh accent.
    Every day I get stronger.
    You'll need to dye the hair, like Connery, Moore, Dalton and Brozza had to do... ;)

    Does anyone know if Craig had dyed his hair at all playing Bond?

    In Skyfall, his beard (and his hair) when he returned to MI6 was grey, but went back to dark for the rest of the film, so, possibly, there's some bits of dying happened in there.

    In SPECTRE, I'm not sure, as it's not obvious (maybe due to his hair being blond as well).

    But in No Time To Die, possibly not, as the film was intended to show Bond at his old age, so the grey hair really mattered in that film (and that's why his romance with Madeleine was all the more uncomfortable, because he really looked older in that film opposite Seydoux, the age gap was all the more obvious).

    So, maybe in Skyfall.

    Craig is only 16 years older than Seydoux if I'm not mistaken. At that age, it's not a disturbing age gap. But that's not your point. 😉 Obvious? It wasn't to me. Perhaps that's because older men romancing younger damsels was always a thing in Hollywood. 😄 Craig's just pulling a Bogaert here.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    Maybe it's just me, but wasn't it all easier before the internet?
    The closest we got to who would be a new Bond was when Roger Moore might leave the role in 1980,1982, 1984 and 1986. And a list of five or six actors (who were popular at the time) might be mentioned in a news paper or magazine. I recall Michael Caine was often bandied about, even up till after A View To A Kill. Along with the likes of Ian Ogilvy or even the bizarre mention of John James (look him up). But we just let it go, that's all we could do. Yes of course we can debate the next Bond, or else why would we all post on a forum. But it was a simpler time, when we couldn't dissect each actor down to their hair colour, hair cut or lack of voice talent.
    Despite what some might feel, EON have never (imo) made a bad debut film with any of the actors. Be it the actor was a decent one, the story was either straight from Fleming, or good enough, or the film makers all brought their A game to the project.
    So with that in mind, I have some faith that we will get that with Bond number seven.
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    Yep, it's ATJ. And Nolan knows it, which is why he reacted the way he did when ATJ's potential screentest was mentioned in that recent podcast interview.

    It was quite the squirm from Nolan wasn’t it?

    Yes, it was. The only thing I don't get is why Nolan was not squirming when Bond was brought up. He started to squirm only when ATJ was mentioned. Could it be possible that Nolan knows ATJ is the next Bond, but Nolan has not signed on to direct yet?

    I forget that Noland and ATJ have already worked together before on Tenet, so Bond 26 would be a reunion.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Yep, it's ATJ. And Nolan knows it, which is why he reacted the way he did when ATJ's potential screentest was mentioned in that recent podcast interview.

    It was quite the squirm from Nolan wasn’t it?

    Yes, it was. The only thing I don't get is why Nolan was not squirming when Bond was brought up. He started to squirm only when ATJ was mentioned. Could it be possible that Nolan knows ATJ is the next Bond, but Nolan has not signed on to direct yet?

    Was he squirming? He didn't seem flustered or try to quickly change the subject, he just said he's a great actor. It sounds like he was just trying to be diplomatic more than anything.

    Exactly... I didn't see a hint of a squirm.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
    Posts: 2,641
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    Yep, it's ATJ. And Nolan knows it, which is why he reacted the way he did when ATJ's potential screentest was mentioned in that recent podcast interview.

    What interview was this mate?

    https://youtu.be/eWBJ-60L8Lg?t=1501

    Thank you. I get what you mean, you could see Nolan wanted to keep his cards close to his chest and not reveal too much.

    Aside from the guys voice, I'm not sold on ATJ with shorter hair. He just looks, ordinary with shorter hair and no beard.
    I don't mean to be as harsh as it sounds, but if you look at all the Bonds (aside from maybe Lazenby) they all have a very distinctive and memorable appearance, almost like they're bare no resemblance to anyone else, I don't think ATJ fits that.
  • edited August 2023 Posts: 3,327
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    Yep, it's ATJ. And Nolan knows it, which is why he reacted the way he did when ATJ's potential screentest was mentioned in that recent podcast interview.

    What interview was this mate?

    https://youtu.be/eWBJ-60L8Lg?t=1501

    Thank you. I get what you mean, you could see Nolan wanted to keep his cards close to his chest and not reveal too much.

    Aside from the guys voice, I'm not sold on ATJ with shorter hair. He just looks, ordinary with shorter hair and no beard.
    I don't mean to be as harsh as it sounds, but if you look at all the Bonds (aside from maybe Lazenby) they all have a very distinctive and memorable appearance, almost like they're bare no resemblance to anyone else, I don't think ATJ fits that.

    I would have no problems accepting this image as the new James Bond. That's about as Bondian as it gets for me.

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  • Agent0099Agent0099 Milford, Michigan
    edited August 2023 Posts: 29
    Venutius wrote: »
    I think Peter's explained it really well already, tbh. To recap, Sope's got the required masculine Alpha presence and physicality; he looks convincing in a fight; he's good at playing a dangerous man but carries a sense of intelligence and decency too; he looks good in just about anything, formal and casual; it wouldn't be a stretch to think he'd be capable of seducing women of the calibre of Monica Bellucci; and he's good with humour too. (Were you not amused when the crime boss in Gangs of London said 'You beat up nine men?!' and Sope said 'Well, I had a dart, so...'?). These are all things that the actor who plays Bond needs to have, no? I'd say that Sope's got em.
    Dan's my favourite Bond and I'd seen plenty of his work before he was cast but, honestly, nothing in his pre-CR roles suggested Bond to me, including Layer Cake. To be fair, no, I don't think that Sope would be as good as Craig, but then I don't think that anyone would - I actually agree with BB that Dan was the best actor of that mid-'90s to mid-'00s generation. But in Gangs of London, I thought that Sope showed far more of the characteristics required for an actor to play Bond than Dan had in any of his pre-Bond work. And certainly more than any of the other recently-suggested candidates, a lot of whom seem pretty lightweight in comparison. All of this IMO, obvs. [/quote


    IMO Sope is the right man for the job!!
  • edited August 2023 Posts: 4,153
    peter wrote: »
    @talos7 …. His eyebrows, especially his right one, had a strange color in NTTD.. I didn’t know if this was a result of color correction in post, or a dye job to bring out his eyes.

    It’s about the only thing I did t like about that film (his right eyebrow, 😂)

    All this talk about eyebrows being one of Craig's fault has gotten someone very interested....

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  • edited August 2023 Posts: 3,327
    Agent0099 wrote: »

    IMO Sope is the right man for the job!!
    Sope is a decent actor, great as a tough guy, but I see nothing at all of Ian Fleming's literary Bond in Sope.

    If you are not really a fan of Ian Fleming's work, then this shouldn't be a problem for you.
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