Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • edited February 2016 Posts: 2,081
    Sorry about OT, but to reply:

    @bondjames, yes, I see what you mean. If they'd want to be really fair they should also have different categories age-wise... young (and usually pretty) women get nominations and Oscars all the time, young men do not (it even starts with kids - girls are more likely to get nominated than boys), but in older age groups it's a different story. I believe the youngest living male Oscar winner is Eddie Redmayne (now 34, won at 33), the second youngest is Christian Bale (now 42, won at 37). DiCaprio is a few months younger than Bale and likely to take the 2nd youngest place in a couple of weeks - unless Hardy (38) wins supporting, of course. (Unlikely, but not impossible, and personally I'd be very pleased.) But Lawrence is - ridiculously - onto her 4th nomination at 25 (won at 22). Redmayne is also the youngest male nominee this year, and quite an exception in the male categories, while 5 of the 10 female nominees are from 21 to 30, and both predicted female winners are under 30. It's too noticeable and common to be just a co-incidence, either.

    It will never be equal opportunity for all - at least while the majority of voters are 60-something white men.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    edited February 2016 Posts: 5,131
    bondjames wrote: »
    I'm not all to familiar with either Madden or Hunnam.

    I have seen Madden in Game of Thrones I'm sure but can't remember much about him. He seems a bit young though.

    I have caught a few bits here and there of Hunnam in Sons of Anarchy while changing channels, but don't know enough about him either to comment. He seems a bit thuggish looking for Bond. Sort of in the Craig mold it seems. I know he's been mentioned on here a few times so I'll keep a look out for him and then give my views.

    Hunnam - Worth a screen test. Although his 'accent acting' is terrible - His Cockney accent in Green Street Hooligans is bad.

    Madden - No he's a midget.

    Bale - Yes please.
  • AceHoleAceHole Belgium, via Britain
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    I'm not all to familiar with either Madden or Hunnam.

    I have seen Madden in Game of Thrones I'm sure but can't remember much about him. He seems a bit young though.

    I have caught a few bits here and there of Hunnam in Sons of Anarchy while changing channels, but don't know enough about him either to comment. He seems a bit thuggish looking for Bond. Sort of in the Craig mold it seems. I know he's been mentioned on here a few times so I'll keep a look out for him and then give my views.

    Hunnam - Worth a screen test. Although his 'accent acting' is terrible - His Cockney accent in Green Street Hooligans is bad.

    Madden - No he's a midget.

    Bale - Yes please.

    I don't really want Bale as 007 anymore... it would just seem like a re-tread of his Bruce Wayne persona when going through the gadgets with Lucius Fox.
    That was basically Nolan 'doing' his version of James Bond.
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    suavejmf wrote: »

    Bale - Yes please.

    It's already 13 years too late for that, and what @AceHole said.

  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Tuulia wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »

    Bale - Yes please.

    It's already 13 years too late for that, and what @AceHole said.
    Sad but true. Bale could have been a near perfect Bond imho.
  • edited February 2016 Posts: 1,661
    What with many teen/early 20s based franchises doing well - Star Wars has been rebooted with a younger cast - I just wonder if the next Bond actor will be Paul Haggis' Casino Royale version? Haggis wrote for a 28 year old Bond in his version of Casino Royale. Perhaps EON will risk (if that's the right word!) an actor in his 20s?

    I think it could work given a decent actor and one with decent enough Bond looks. Perhaps it's time to think of casting someone under age 30? The likes of Bale, Fassbender, Hardy, Cavill, Elba would all be out of the race!
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    According to batman on film years ago Bale had the choice between Batman and 007 and he choose Batman and honestly he made a wise choice.
  • edited February 2016 Posts: 2,081
    fanbond123 wrote: »
    What with many teen/early 20s based franchises doing well - Star Wars has been rebooted with a younger cast - I just wonder if the next Bond actor will be Paul Haggis' Casino Royale version? Haggis wrote for a 28 year old Bond in his version of Casino Royale. Perhaps EON will risk (if that's the right word!) an actor in his 20s?

    I think it could work given a decent actor and one with decent enough Bond looks. Perhaps it's time to think of casting someone under age 30? The likes of Bale, Fassbender, Hardy, Cavill, Elba would all be out of the race!

    They're "out of the race" anyway. I hate the idea of a twenty-something Bond myself, but who knows what they might actually do.
    Risico007 wrote: »
    According to batman on film years ago Bale had the choice between Batman and 007 and he choose Batman and honestly he made a wise choice.

    He didn't actually have the choice, but I think that IF given the choice, then he would have indeed chosen Batman. I do agree with you that it was also better for him, both character-wise and otherwise.

  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Irrespective of who's cast as the next Bond and whatever his age may be, chances are like the 3 Bond actors that directly preceeded him, he'll be wasted. Dalton was horribly wasted, Brosnan wasn't even taken seriously by EoN and then for all the love and pandering they did for Craig, they managed to only get 4 films out of him, each, sans CR of questionable quality and ultimately a waste of Craig's talents.

    I said this before, EoN is king when it comes to the hype and hoopla of the media circus but when it comes down to the creative bottom line, it's a long descending whistle sound that ends with a big, fat, squidgy splat.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    doubleoego wrote: »
    Irrespective of who's cast as the next Bond and whatever his age may be, chances are like the 3 Bond actors that directly preceeded him, he'll be wasted. Dalton was horribly wasted, Brosnan wasn't even taken seriously by EoN and then for all the love and pandering they did for Craig, they managed to only get 4 films out of him, each, sans CR of questionable quality and ultimately a waste of Craig's talents.

    I said this before, EoN is king when it comes to the hype and hoopla of the media circus but when it comes down to the creative bottom line, it's a long descending whistle sound that ends with a big, fat, squidgy splat.

    I agree except unlike his predecessors Craig deserves some of that blame. I liked SF though but SP ..yea Craig is just as guilty.
  • doubleoego wrote: »
    Irrespective of who's cast as the next Bond and whatever his age may be, chances are like the 3 Bond actors that directly preceeded him, he'll be wasted. Dalton was horribly wasted, Brosnan wasn't even taken seriously by EoN and then for all the love and pandering they did for Craig, they managed to only get 4 films out of him, each, sans CR of questionable quality and ultimately a waste of Craig's talents.

    I said this before, EoN is king when it comes to the hype and hoopla of the media circus but when it comes down to the creative bottom line, it's a long descending whistle sound that ends with a big, fat, squidgy splat.

    Whether you like it or not (I'm "ok" on it), Skyfall is regarded by the majority of fans and critics as a great Bond film, up there with, or better than CR.
  • AceHoleAceHole Belgium, via Britain
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    doubleoego wrote: »
    Irrespective of who's cast as the next Bond and whatever his age may be, chances are like the 3 Bond actors that directly preceeded him, he'll be wasted. Dalton was horribly wasted, Brosnan wasn't even taken seriously by EoN and then for all the love and pandering they did for Craig, they managed to only get 4 films out of him, each, sans CR of questionable quality and ultimately a waste of Craig's talents.

    I said this before, EoN is king when it comes to the hype and hoopla of the media circus but when it comes down to the creative bottom line, it's a long descending whistle sound that ends with a big, fat, squidgy splat.

    It is a cold reality, but I agree with this. Creatively, EoN come up short almost every time. They often fail to make full use of the leading man's strengths and it's clear to me that they do not put the right kind of people in charge of the creative process.
    Still don't understand why Babs is calling creative shots. She is a business woman posing as a producer with creative input.
  • edited February 2016 Posts: 1,661
    Brosnan wasn't even taken seriously by EoN

    That's an interesting observation.

    Hmm... you do get the feeling B Broccoli genuinely likes Daniel Craig whereas she saw Brosnan as someone to hire rather than a 'friend'. I don't know if that's a fair assessment, just the impression I've got.

    I always got the impression Cubby Broccoli felt the same way about Roger Moore. He genuinely liked him as a person hence why Rog made so many films. I suppose it helps if the Bond actor is a genuine friend of the producers. If B Broccoli is a friend of some younger actor, well, he may have a much bigger chance of getting the role!






  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    fanbond123 wrote: »
    Brosnan wasn't even taken seriously by EoN

    That's an interesting observation.

    Hmm... you do get the feeling B Broccoli genuinely likes Daniel Craig whereas she saw Brosnan as someone to hire rather than a 'friend'. I don't know if that's a fair assessment, just the impression I've got.

    I always got the impression Cubby Broccoli felt the same way about Roger Moore. He genuinely liked him as a person hence why Rog made so many films. I suppose it helps if the Bond actor is a genuine friend of the producers. If B Broccoli is a friend of some younger actor, well, he may have a much bigger chance of getting the role!
    I've always felt that way too, about the EON/Craig, EON/Brosnan and EON/Moore relationships. Ultimately and on the margin, it's all about the personal rapport, as with nearly everything.
  • AceHoleAceHole Belgium, via Britain
    edited February 2016 Posts: 1,731
    fanbond123 wrote: »
    I always got the impression Cubby Broccoli felt the same way about Roger Moore. He genuinely liked him as a person hence why Rog made so many films. I suppose it helps if the Bond actor is a genuine friend of the producers. If B Broccoli is a friend of some younger actor, well, he may have a much bigger chance of getting the role!

    This is just life in general, really. Rarely does simply 'the best' person get the job. It's usually the best person amoung those who has a good rapport with the decision maker (ie. with the one who is hiring), who gets it.

    It's not the smartest in the room who gets all the breaks, it's the most popular. Politics mirrors this human sociological trait.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited February 2016 Posts: 15,715
    Just posting this here: Idris Elba's latest movie.



  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Looks like a lot of chaps are auditioning these days (Elba, Madden, Hiddleston, Turner etc.) given the roles they're taking on.

    That looks good. Elba is a force of nature.
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    I know a few people want Idris (lets not start that argument again) but i just saw this, potential audition film? I guees thats up to you guys to decide
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    Hahahaha didnt even see you posted this. Sorry!

    Just posting this here: Idris Elba's latest movie.



  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Quite alright, @TonyEbik!

    Looks like Elba's own "Taken" film, as it is set in Paris.
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    Quite alright, @TonyEbik!

    Looks like Elba's own "Taken" film, as it is set in Paris.

    Totally! looks good too. Lets hope it doesnt disappoint.

  • SzonanaSzonana Mexico
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    Tuulia wrote: »
    Sorry about OT, but to reply:

    @bondjames, yes, I see what you mean. If they'd want to be really fair they should also have different categories age-wise... young (and usually pretty) women get nominations and Oscars all the time, young men do not (it even starts with kids - girls are more likely to get nominated than boys), but in older age groups it's a different story. I believe the youngest living male Oscar winner is Eddie Redmayne (now 34, won at 33), the second youngest is Christian Bale (now 42, won at 37). DiCaprio is a few months younger than Bale and likely to take the 2nd youngest place in a couple of weeks - unless Hardy (38) wins supporting, of course. (Unlikely, but not impossible, and personally I'd be very pleased.) But Lawrence is - ridiculously - onto her 4th nomination at 25 (won at 22). Redmayne is also the youngest male nominee this year, and quite an exception in the male categories, while 5 of the 10 female nominees are from 21 to 30, and both predicted female winners are under 30. It's too noticeable and common to be just a co-incidence, either.

    It will never be equal opportunity for all - at least while the majority of voters are 60-something white men.

    You said something really interesting here how Jennifer Lawrence at 22 is in her fourth nomination and the guys are mostly in their 40s or older.

    I think the members of the academy go easier with the ladies their demands are less strict and that's because the type pr roles they can play are less. The only one who has variety is Meryl Streep she is the only actress who is taken as seriously as Daniel Day Lewis and people ask from what they ask from male actors.

    So being an actress is easier and more dificult at the same time. An actress can win or being nominated for doing almost nothing i.e Julia Roberts being nominated for Pretty woman while actors most of the times have to loose weight or do something really good to get a nod.

    Most of the times the male categories are the stronger ones because the members of the academy ask more from the guys.






  • Fassbender would be perfect if he wasn't too famous now, and ingrained in other iconic roles (Magneto).

    Luke Evans still has my vote if they don't go with Fassy. Hiddleston is too petite.
  • edited February 2016 Posts: 9,846
    I dunno a few shots in the night manger trailer have me convinced he could do it and be in the right shape for it.


    Specifically when he says "I have nothing to lose" that to me felt 110% bondian
  • Just posting this here: Idris Elba's latest movie.

    Looks like 1987's eighth hottest action movie.
  • Anybody but Fassbender. Too soft.
  • AceHoleAceHole Belgium, via Britain
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    Anybody but Fassbender. Too soft.

    Don't judge his softness on those few shots in Shame. I'm sure he can rise to the challenge.
  • edited February 2016 Posts: 1,661
    Amusing how that Idris Elba film is set in Paris and yet everyone speaks with an American accent. No sign of any French police force? Feels like a pro-America propaganda film set in a European location. Americans saving the French from evil terrorists!

    I reckon Elba could handle the action scenes in a Bond film and be credible but whether or not he's the natural successor to Daniel Craig - who knows? I don't think he'd be an awful Bond but I can't say there's anything about him that shouts out "he must be hired!"

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    fanbond123 wrote: »
    Amusing how that Idris Elba film is set in Paris and yet everyone speaks with an American accent. No sign of any French police force? Feels like a pro-America propaganda film set in a European location. Americans saving the French from evil terrorists!

    I reckon Elba could handle the action scenes in a Bond film and be credible but whether or not he's the natural successor to Daniel Craig - who knows? I don't think he'd be an awful Bond but I can't say there's anything about him that shouts out "he must be hired!"

    Yes, there's nothing about Elba that screams to me that he should be Bond. We have a racist media who think he should be Bond on the basis that he has black skin and James Bond has always had white skin.
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    I do believe, the Bond prods are smart enough to not let the media force them into hiring him, because its a popular topic and to proof, that skin colour doesn't matter. Of course it does. We have all sorts of different colours and nationalities in this world and while none should be better then the other, there is a difference and certain characters should stay what they are. And that goes for all colours. You won't have a white man play a chinese warlord or whatever and nobody would question that.
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