Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    edited July 17 Posts: 3,152
    Oh, I dunno, meshypushy. Are there really better candidates around now than the ones they went with in the past? A 'pool of talent' who'd make better Bonds than Connery, Dalton and Craig? I can't see it, tbh.
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    We can’t be overly dismissive of whomever they cast next just because they aren’t Daniel Craig. That’s exactly what some of the Brosnan fanboys did back in 2005; to echo statements like those would be extremely unfortunate.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I can't imagine a delay would be down to an actor. Actors can always be found: look at TLD - they lost their 007 actor and just got another one without rescheduling the film.
  • meshypushymeshypushy Ireland
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    meshypushy wrote: »
    I cannot imagine that the delay in moving ahead with the movie is due to not being able to find the right actor. From what I can see, there is a hell of a better pool of talent around than there was when previous incumbents were being replaced.
    I would be more concerned about the movies going in the wrong direction than casting the wrong guy at the moment.

    Both are equally valid concerns, aren't they? I'm not sure what you mean by "the wrong direction", but in theory, yes, the movies going the wrong way with the right guy or the movies going the right way with the wrong guy, are both things we'd rather not see happen, surely.
    I was just pointing out that I think there is a greater risk of going in a direction that doesn’t resonate with audiences than in casting an actor who is not appropriate for the role (which was the focus of the recent discussion). If they are ‘reinventing’ Bond, there is a risk that whatever they come up with may not get bums on seats.
  • meshypushymeshypushy Ireland
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    Venutius wrote: »
    Oh, I dunno. Are there really better candidates around now than the ones they went with in the past? A 'pool of talent' who'd make better Bonds than Connery, Dalton and Craig? I can't see it, tbh.
    I didn’t say there was a pool of talent who would be better than any of the previous Bonds, I said there is a noticeably higher standard across the board of actors who could nail the role than the ones being discussed for the past 20-30 years as being potential Bonds. Some of the names being bandied about as ‘the next Bond’ in the past were laughable, in hindsight.
    There are a hell of a lot of good, young actors around at the moment (that have been discussed here) who would make excellent castings. It hasn’t been like this in the past, from what I can recall - there was always a dread in my mind when seeing names of folk who were being linked to replace any of the incumbents. I do not feel like that this time around.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    edited July 17 Posts: 3,152
    Ah, right, I get you. Yeah, fair enough, mate. For myself, I can only see one current actor with the potential to hold his own with past Bonds: Sope Dirisu. But I'm with peter on this one, in that I really doubt that'll happen. There's a few who clearly deserve a screentest, including Leo Suter and Theo James, although Theo's 40 so he's on the brink of ageing out already, same as Aidan Turner. Have to say, I don't like Mescal for it but, again, I can see why others might.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    It's worth mentioning that production on Casino Royale was supposedly pushed back, while Craig made up his mind. I read they gave him best part of a year before he agreed to screentest for the studio in September 2005.

    Perhaps they have an actor in mind and they're giving him breathing space, I doubt it, but it would explain the lack of rumours of late.
  • meshypushymeshypushy Ireland
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    Venutius wrote: »
    Ah, right, I get you. Yeah, fair enough, mate. For myself, I can only see one current actor with the potential to hold his own with past Bonds: Sope Dirisu. But, like Peter, I really doubt that'll happen. There's a few who clearly deserve a screentest, including Leo Suter and Theo James, although Theo's 40 so he's on the brink of ageing out already, same as Aidan Turner. Have to say, I don't like Mescal for it but, again, I can see why others might.
    I don’t fancy Mescal or ATJ but I certainly wouldn’t complain if the likes of Sope, James, Lowden, Egerton, Turner etc were to be cast. I didn’t realise James was 40 - he looks younger than that. I haven’t seen enough of Suter but from the little I have seen, he certainly looks like he has potential. Some very interesting candidates have been discussed here.
    I think back to the likes of Ewan McGregor, Clive Owen, Gerard Butler and Julian McMahon who were rumoured to be in contention last time around - they were bloody grim times when considering what a post-Brosnan future looked like!
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    edited July 17 Posts: 3,152
    Yes, indeed - my heart always sank a bit with every 'Clive Owen for Bond' rumour! Butler, McMahon and McGregor, I can't even...just...no...
  • edited July 18 Posts: 1,340
    mtm wrote: »
    I can't imagine a delay would be down to an actor. Actors can always be found: look at TLD - they lost their 007 actor and just got another one without rescheduling the film.

    Cubby didn't care.

    Anyway, he had Brosnan and Dalton. Who do they have now?
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    mtm wrote: »
    I can't imagine a delay would be down to an actor. Actors can always be found: look at TLD - they lost their 007 actor and just got another one without rescheduling the film.

    I couldn't agree more. Very true.
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    mtm wrote: »
    I can't imagine a delay would be down to an actor. Actors can always be found: look at TLD - they lost their 007 actor and just got another one without rescheduling the film.

    I couldn't agree more. Very true.

    Unless they have an actor they 100 per cent want and are willing to schedule around him.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    ColonelSun wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I can't imagine a delay would be down to an actor. Actors can always be found: look at TLD - they lost their 007 actor and just got another one without rescheduling the film.

    I couldn't agree more. Very true.

    Unless they have an actor they 100 per cent want and are willing to schedule around him.

    Yeah. All the same.
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
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    Now Fabien Frankel is my new option to play James Bond.

    ;)

    I like him in interviews, I find him very personable and he's very much got the traditional Bond look (his dad was the same back in the 90's); he's really at the start of his career, though, and I think his character in House of the Dragon doesn't give him much room to show off. He's bound to get an audition, but I think he's something of an underdog compared to a lot of the other, more experienced candidates. Then again, maybe Eon would be quite keen on someone at the start of their career this time around?
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    edited July 18 Posts: 2,016
    Don't know if another reason for the delay could be Amazon having their own direction for Bond, and EON having theirs. Not that it's a sour disagreement, maybe each trying to convince the other that their way is right for Bond. I can easily imagine Amazon wanting to throw big money on screen to make an outlandish Bond film in the vein of Lewis Gilbert, but EON wanting something slightly grounded.
  • edited July 18 Posts: 4,139
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    It's worth mentioning that production on Casino Royale was supposedly pushed back, while Craig made up his mind. I read they gave him best part of a year before he agreed to screentest for the studio in September 2005.

    Perhaps they have an actor in mind and they're giving him breathing space, I doubt it, but it would explain the lack of rumours of late.

    It's actually quite interesting looking up some of these old articles from the time. You'd have thought the entire production was in complete disarray, no Bond could be found, and there was going to be another significant delay going from this: https://www.ign.com/articles/2005/09/06/casino-royale-delayed

    In reality it seems Craig had been convinced to audition, and they'd certainly approached him previously. The only significantly younger candidate they'd tested we know of was Henry Cavill. I don't think anyone nowadays would think CR had a troubled pre-production by any means, but I can easily imagine some fans would have thought that at the time, and I suspect it'll be the same this time round.

    I don't actually know why they initially delayed CR either. I doubt it was down to Craig though but a combination of things which meant waiting until 2006 was the best thing to do (I know Brosnan only officially stepped down in late 2004, and it seems they only cemented adapting CR with the reboot concept after this. I suspect the initial release date was made with him still in the role, and after him leaving was negotiated they cemented the direction they wanted to go in but had to extend pre-production to get that new Bond. I know it was MGM who pencilled in that initial 2005 date anyway, and I'm not sure how committed anyone was to it. Worth saying Campbell became director in Feb. 2005 and that's when things get rolling).
  • edited July 18 Posts: 1,340
    At the time I thought they had taken a long time to cast a new Bond.

    But to be fair they wasted a lot of time with the Jinx movie.
  • edited July 18 Posts: 4,139
    At the time I thought they had taken a long time to cast a new Bond.

    But to be fair they wasted a lot of time with the Jinx movie.

    Exactly a year it seems from Brosnan's official departure to Craig's announcement, and mixed with the other pre-production obligations for the film. Even then I suspect they only really got going when Campbell joined in February 2005.

    I think the Jinx movie was scrapped in late 2003 and all work stopped on it by then.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited July 18 Posts: 16,382
    Don't know if another reason for the delay could be Amazon having their own direction for Bond, and EON having theirs. Not that it's a sour disagreement, maybe each trying to convince the other that their way is right for Bond. I can easily imagine Amazon wanting to throw big money on screen to make an outlandish Bond film in the vein of Lewis Gilbert, but EON wanting something slightly grounded.

    I could imagine there's a difference of opinion going on. We pretty much know that Amazon want TV Bond and Eon don't, for example.
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
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    I don't think anything has gone wrong that is causing a delay, I think they knew if they killed-off Bond they would need a sizable gap before going back to business as usual. I think this was always the plan.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Over the past sixty years, at any given time , there have been several actors who could have made a great Bond; timing is everything . From an age standpoint, there is a window of viability. Over the past decade we’ve seen several potential candidates age out; this is actually true for the history of the franchise.

    Using Theo James as an example; I think he would make an outstanding Bond ; but his time is now or never. He might have a couple of years left for him to begin this role but that window is closing.

    The opposite is also true, there are younger actors who are just entering their window of viability.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited July 18 Posts: 5,970
    Look at it this way, we’re closer than we’ve ever been to Bond 26.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    Look at it this way, we’re closer than we’ve ever been to Bond 26.

    Lol, True…
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    Mark my words, they will make Bond 27 before Bond 26.
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    I'm so eager to take the lead - I've ended up frustrated, like you guys.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    talos7 wrote: »
    Over the past sixty years, at any given time , there have been several actors who could have made a great Bond; timing is everything .

    Yeah it's never really been a case of there being only one perfect choice for it. Roger was older than Sean and could (other commitments nothwithstanding) have been cast in '62 or '69. Pierce was cast in '87 but they found someone else. Craig was brilliant but they'd still have made CR if they couldn't get him.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    mtm wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Over the past sixty years, at any given time , there have been several actors who could have made a great Bond; timing is everything .

    Yeah it's never really been a case of there being only one perfect choice for it. Roger was older than Sean and could (other commitments nothwithstanding) have been cast in '62 or '69. Pierce was cast in '87 but they found someone else. Craig was brilliant but they'd still have made CR if they couldn't get him.

    Yes, and if for some reason CR would have been delayed for several more years, Daniel’s window would have probably shut and someone else cast.
  • Bentley007Bentley007 Manitoba, Canada
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    ColonelSun wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I can't imagine a delay would be down to an actor. Actors can always be found: look at TLD - they lost their 007 actor and just got another one without rescheduling the film.

    I couldn't agree more. Very true.

    Unless they have an actor they 100 per cent want and are willing to schedule around him.

    I hope this is the case rather than them not viewing any of the currently suitable actors as a fit
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    Bentley007 wrote: »
    ColonelSun wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I can't imagine a delay would be down to an actor. Actors can always be found: look at TLD - they lost their 007 actor and just got another one without rescheduling the film.

    I couldn't agree more. Very true.

    Unless they have an actor they 100 per cent want and are willing to schedule around him.

    I hope this is the case rather than them not viewing any of the currently suitable actors as a fit

    I’d be surprised if they didn’t have a few names in mind. I suspect some have even been informally approached. I just can’t imagine they’ll go into this not having thought about which actors could be good/trying to see how interested they’d be beforehand.

    The issue is you can’t really do any casting without a pre-production and a director attached.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    007HallY wrote: »
    Bentley007 wrote: »
    ColonelSun wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I can't imagine a delay would be down to an actor. Actors can always be found: look at TLD - they lost their 007 actor and just got another one without rescheduling the film.

    I couldn't agree more. Very true.

    Unless they have an actor they 100 per cent want and are willing to schedule around him.

    I hope this is the case rather than them not viewing any of the currently suitable actors as a fit

    I’d be surprised if they didn’t have a few names in mind. I suspect some have even been informally approached. I just can’t imagine they’ll go into this not having thought about which actors could be good/trying to see how interested they’d be beforehand.

    The issue is you can’t really do any casting without a pre-production and a director attached.

    And a script, lol!
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