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  • UnivexUnivex
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    buddyoldchap wrote: »
    @Benny @Thunderball @Mendes4Lyfe @Univex

    Well, gents, I am as baffled by the news regarding Amazon/EoN as you are, however we might be in luck. Our pick Aidan Turner has close ties @Amazon studios, so we'll see what happens. Hopefully they won't make it woke though, thankfully woke is on its return a while now. Meet James Bond, if there is a God:

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    Here’s hoping, my friend. What close ties do you mean, btw?
  • buddyoldchapbuddyoldchap Formerly known as JeremyBondon
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    @Univex

    Leonardo and Fifteen Love are both Amazon productions, starring our main man
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    I don't think EON would've hired an actor in his 40's again. Amazon on the other hand...
  • UnivexUnivex
    Posts: 6,733
    buddyoldchap wrote: »
    @Univex

    Leonardo and Fifteen Love are both Amazon productions, starring our main man
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    I don't think EON would've hired an actor in his 40's again. Amazon on the other hand...

    Again, here's hoping! :)
  • 007HallY007HallY
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    Well, as I've said in the past - if he wants to do it and is offered, then he'll do it. But he has been clear that it might not be for him. We'll see.
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    sandbagger1 wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    sandbagger1 wrote: »
    We may have to consider with this major shift behind the scenes an American may take the title role.

    Oh Hell I hope not!
    Austin Butler has voiced ambitions to be the first American actor to play Bond in the past.

    So what? I have voiced ambition to be the first Quebecois actor to play Bond. But after 25 years in the UK, I still can't get the accent right, so...
  • 007HallY007HallY
    edited February 20 Posts: 4,613
    Who Amazon will cast will be interesting. I don't know whether they'll play it 'safe' or go for fan service, or indeed just go lesser known if not unknown, but I hope they'll go into it with a similar mentality as EON had.

    I really don't know at this point. Someone like Callum Turner was a pick of mine in the past, and I can see him being very good/a logical fit. That's who I'd have bet on if I had to. But obviously at the moment we're really in uncharted waters, it depends on auditions, and I think the truth has always been there are so many potentials for Bond at a given time. I hope they find a good Bond though. It can't just be someone 'good enough' or a candidate who gets coronated due to popularity.
  • bondywondybondywondy Uk
    edited 2:59am Posts: 442
    Deadline website on Eon casting Bond after Daniel Craig....
    Had the search for a new Bond been successful, as mentioned earlier, might that have given Broccoli strength to continue as the driving force, I asked several sources.

    “Well, Michael was going to step back. Barbara said as much at the premiere of No Time to Die. If she’d had found another actor with all the right factors, then maybe. You never know. But remember, Barbara couldn’t see herself working without her family. There’s class and there’s class. There’s also family, and they [Amazon MGM] are not family.”

    After Craig bowed out of the franchise, Broccoli did meet with a few actors.

    However, one source dismissed that they were ever seriously in the running and explained that such meetings with the likes of Aaron Taylor-Johnson were “just as kind of an ongoing, keeping your eye out on who’s around, but keeping in touch. But I definitely don’t think that there was any frontrunner. They wanted to know what they wanted to do next before they thought of the right person for it.”

    They continued: “It’s sort of chicken and egg, isn’t it? And if there was a blindingly obvious new guy, it might be a different situation. I think it is such a pivot point after a very specific kind of direction for the Bond movies, and then what do you do next? And it’s so tied up with who’s going to play the part and what’s the tone. And then, so all of those things are massive decisions. And so I think that’s a huge new journey to start on, which is going to have to happen with the new management. But when you produce a Spectre, a Skyfall or a No Time to Die, these things just don’t happen. They were the gold standard, and what’s the price of gold now?”

    It's possible Broccoli would have continued if she found the ideal actor to play Bond but she didn't or perhaps she had no more enthusiasm to look. The motivation to recast and start a new era of Bond was gone.
  • DaltonforyouDaltonforyou The Daltonator
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    Cavill is very involved with Amazon with Warhammer and Voltron, It'll be interesting to see if he can get his foot in the door which I would happily support. He seems to really respect the character.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited 5:39am Posts: 8,646
    I can't help but feel like we're destined for a Bond trilogy now, that seems to be the standard template for franchises. If true that means that lots of Actors in the 40 - 45 age range are suddenly back in the picture. There's really no downside to an older Bond and a more established actor taking over anymore.
  • dewiparrydewiparry
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    Spycraft, illusions, space... Who else can bring these to life?
  • shimplyshocking007shimplyshocking007
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    Is Fassbender too old or could he squeak in if they could get 3 movies done by the time he was 55?
  • ThunderballThunderball playing Chemin de Fer in a casino, downing Vespers
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    He's too old now. Once, he was my frontrunner before I knew of Aidan Turner and Fassbender aged out of the role.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    bondywondy wrote: »
    Deadline website on Eon casting Bond after Daniel Craig....
    Had the search for a new Bond been successful, as mentioned earlier, might that have given Broccoli strength to continue as the driving force, I asked several sources.

    “Well, Michael was going to step back. Barbara said as much at the premiere of No Time to Die. If she’d had found another actor with all the right factors, then maybe. You never know. But remember, Barbara couldn’t see herself working without her family. There’s class and there’s class. There’s also family, and they [Amazon MGM] are not family.”

    After Craig bowed out of the franchise, Broccoli did meet with a few actors.

    However, one source dismissed that they were ever seriously in the running and explained that such meetings with the likes of Aaron Taylor-Johnson were “just as kind of an ongoing, keeping your eye out on who’s around, but keeping in touch. But I definitely don’t think that there was any frontrunner. They wanted to know what they wanted to do next before they thought of the right person for it.”

    They continued: “It’s sort of chicken and egg, isn’t it? And if there was a blindingly obvious new guy, it might be a different situation. I think it is such a pivot point after a very specific kind of direction for the Bond movies, and then what do you do next? And it’s so tied up with who’s going to play the part and what’s the tone. And then, so all of those things are massive decisions. And so I think that’s a huge new journey to start on, which is going to have to happen with the new management. But when you produce a Spectre, a Skyfall or a No Time to Die, these things just don’t happen. They were the gold standard, and what’s the price of gold now?”

    It's possible Broccoli would have continued if she found the ideal actor to play Bond but she didn't or perhaps she had no more enthusiasm to look. The motivation to recast and start a new era of Bond was gone.

    The article says she was continuing to look and interview candidates.
  • bondywondybondywondy Uk
    edited 8:56am Posts: 442
    mtm wrote: »
    bondywondy wrote: »
    Deadline website on Eon casting Bond after Daniel Craig....
    Had the search for a new Bond been successful, as mentioned earlier, might that have given Broccoli strength to continue as the driving force, I asked several sources.

    “Well, Michael was going to step back. Barbara said as much at the premiere of No Time to Die. If she’d had found another actor with all the right factors, then maybe. You never know. But remember, Barbara couldn’t see herself working without her family. There’s class and there’s class. There’s also family, and they [Amazon MGM] are not family.”

    After Craig bowed out of the franchise, Broccoli did meet with a few actors.

    However, one source dismissed that they were ever seriously in the running and explained that such meetings with the likes of Aaron Taylor-Johnson were “just as kind of an ongoing, keeping your eye out on who’s around, but keeping in touch. But I definitely don’t think that there was any frontrunner. They wanted to know what they wanted to do next before they thought of the right person for it.”

    They continued: “It’s sort of chicken and egg, isn’t it? And if there was a blindingly obvious new guy, it might be a different situation. I think it is such a pivot point after a very specific kind of direction for the Bond movies, and then what do you do next? And it’s so tied up with who’s going to play the part and what’s the tone. And then, so all of those things are massive decisions. And so I think that’s a huge new journey to start on, which is going to have to happen with the new management. But when you produce a Spectre, a Skyfall or a No Time to Die, these things just don’t happen. They were the gold standard, and what’s the price of gold now?”

    It's possible Broccoli would have continued if she found the ideal actor to play Bond but she didn't or perhaps she had no more enthusiasm to look. The motivation to recast and start a new era of Bond was gone.

    The article says she was continuing to look and interview candidates.

    They hadn't found anyone that they thought was appropriate enough though.
    “Perhaps,” one of several people Deadline contacted said, and not in jest, “I do think that it’s possible that if God had sent us a totally no-brainer Bond in the last couple of years, then it might be a different situation.”

    Assuming that's an accurate quote, Deadline doesn't mention the source, Eon hadn't found their "no-brainer Bond." Had they found such an actor "then it might be a different situation."

    I think that's another major reason why Eon gave up. No actor that ticked enough boxes to give Barbara Broccoli enough confidence to continue producing. I'm not saying I agree with the comments quoted in Deadline's article but if Eon weren't convinced by the likes of Aaron Taylor-Johnson, Theo James, James Norton, Cavill, Elba, Hiddleston etc then it's understandable why Eon's bargaining position with Amazon was not great. Broccoli may have been disillusioned with the casting process.

    Based on her interviews since 2021, I never got the impression she was that excited to recast and reboot the franchise. That's just the vibe I got but I was surprised by yesterday's news. I thought she'd carry for a few more years and produce Bond 26. If she has major issues with Amazon then stay and try to resolve them. But she didn't want to and that's her personal choice and we have to accept it.
  • Since62Since62
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    shimplyshocking007 wrote: »
    Is Fassbender too old or could he squeak in if they could get 3 movies done by the time he was 55?

    Have you seen his streaming show, The Agency ? It's great, and him, too, but his face is much more lined now. Mind you - very handsome; I should be so fortunate. But...
  • patbpatb
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    I know this may wind up some fans but expanding the universe to other double 0 agents provides opportunities for the more mature actors to star as more mature agents. Fassbender in his own movie plus as a "father figure" to a new Bond was legs IMHO and he would bring instant talent and class to the screen, something the Amazon will need.
  • ImpertinentGoonImpertinentGoon Everybody needs a hobby.
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    patb wrote: »
    I know this may wind up some fans but expanding the universe to other double 0 agents provides opportunities for the more mature actors to star as more mature agents. Fassbender in his own movie plus as a "father figure" to a new Bond was legs IMHO and he would bring instant talent and class to the screen, something the Amazon will need.

    Which immediatly brings up the question: What if the spin-off is better than the main series? Do you really want to create your own competition and let whatever 30ish actor you pick as the standard-bearer - as THE James Bond - have to go up against Fassbender inside your own franchise? Does that mean you'll intentionally have to make the 005 project worse in order to make sure it doesn't kneecap the main films?
  • patbpatb
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    Good point, perhaps he's too young at the moment, too close the the conventional Bond. But it's fun to think about who would make a great "mature 00" agent and perhaps a second chance for actors who missed the boat first time around.
  • buddyoldchapbuddyoldchap Formerly known as JeremyBondon
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    I'd literally kill for a Bond film starring Turner as 007 and Fassbender as a more mature 006. Ho-ly f*ckballs.
  • ImpertinentGoonImpertinentGoon Everybody needs a hobby.
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    patb wrote: »
    Good point, perhaps he's too young at the moment, too close the the conventional Bond. But it's fun to think about who would make a great "mature 00" agent and perhaps a second chance for actors who missed the boat first time around.

    Absolutely. I personally hope that this will kind of create an open season for spy films and maybe a second golden age, where different studios think "They may have the name, but other than that, there's nothing we can't do better" and actually try to get some of those guys for their own franchises.
    Just like I've long said that even if there'll be no official Paloma sequel (well, that's back on the menu, I guess) some other studio should just get Ana de Armas for a film about a Cuban-American CIA agent who likes a drink and who's mentor may or may not have been killed on a boat off the coast of Santiago de Chile after she exfiltrated an asset with the help of an aging British spy.
  • patbpatb
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    "I'd literally kill" steady on there
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    ImpertinentGoon wrote: »
    patb wrote: »
    I know this may wind up some fans but expanding the universe to other double 0 agents provides opportunities for the more mature actors to star as more mature agents. Fassbender in his own movie plus as a "father figure" to a new Bond was legs IMHO and he would bring instant talent and class to the screen, something the Amazon will need.

    Which immediatly brings up the question: What if the spin-off is better than the main series? Do you really want to create your own competition and let whatever 30ish actor you pick as the standard-bearer - as THE James Bond - have to go up against Fassbender inside your own franchise? Does that mean you'll intentionally have to make the 005 project worse in order to make sure it doesn't kneecap the main films?

    I'll add a couple of other objections:
    -How do you make these other 00s distinct from Bond yet relevant to the Bond universe as a whole? From conception it has always been very Bond-centrist, with classic tropes stemming from the character.
    -Why use plot ideas for these spin-offs instead of, well, the core franchise?
    -What about budgets, creative teams, continuity? They risk stretching themselves thin in so many ways.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    I think the likelihood of Theo James being cast has increased. The Gentlemen was basically his “ Layer Cake “ . Any reluctance that he may have expressed will be eased by additional 0’s on his contract.
  • patbpatb
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    ImpertinentGoon wrote: »
    patb wrote: »
    I know this may wind up some fans but expanding the universe to other double 0 agents provides opportunities for the more mature actors to star as more mature agents. Fassbender in his own movie plus as a "father figure" to a new Bond was legs IMHO and he would bring instant talent and class to the screen, something the Amazon will need.

    Which immediatly brings up the question: What if the spin-off is better than the main series? Do you really want to create your own competition and let whatever 30ish actor you pick as the standard-bearer - as THE James Bond - have to go up against Fassbender inside your own franchise? Does that mean you'll intentionally have to make the 005 project worse in order to make sure it doesn't kneecap the main films?

    I'll add a couple of other objections:
    -How do you make these other 00s distinct from Bond yet relevant to the Bond universe as a whole? From conception it has always been very Bond-centrist, with classic tropes stemming from the character.
    -Why use plot ideas for these spin-offs instead of, well, the core franchise?
    -What about budgets, creative teams, continuity? They risk stretching themselves thin in so many ways.

    Fair points, great writing will get you far. Other 00s need their own characteristics to be memorable and identifiable with their own backgrounds and journies. Enough room (as with Bond and M in SF) to have friction on the surface but respect underneath. As for plots, I dont think we need a bad guy looking for World domination every time. And plots can be connected with back stories of agents or exploiting their own strengths. Standalone missions with the ocasional "cross over" could work. I keep seeing reference to the "Bond universe" and I get that but I think it will change to the "MI6 universe". It's allways been there since the books, just never explored.
  • StamperStamper
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    Tom Cruise is going to be the next Bond for Amazon. It's a no brainer.
  • battleshipgreygtbattleshipgreygt
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    talos7 wrote: »
    I think the likelihood of Theo James being cast has increased. The Gentlemen was basically his “ Layer Cake “ . Any reluctance that he may have expressed will be eased by additional 0’s on his contract.

    That would make a lot of sense. I think he'd be the right kind of pick to usher in a new era of younger Bond fans without alienating the traditionalists. If he wasn't already doing The Gentlemen it would've been fascinating to see Guy Ritchie be the "creative director" of sorts for the new Bond-universe. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they went went with Matthew Vaughn instead.
  • UnivexUnivex
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    battleshipgreygt wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    I think the likelihood of Theo James being cast has increased. The Gentlemen was basically his “ Layer Cake “ . Any reluctance that he may have expressed will be eased by additional 0’s on his contract.

    That would make a lot of sense. I think he'd be the right kind of pick to usher in a new era of younger Bond fans without alienating the traditionalists. If he wasn't already doing The Gentlemen it would've been fascinating to see Guy Ritchie be the "creative director" of sorts for the new Bond-universe. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they went went with Matthew Vaughn instead.

    I'd love Theo James as Bond. And I'd love it if Guy Ritchie had some sort of say, but no Matthew Vaughn, please. Argyle was as cringeworthy as it gets.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    edited 4:13pm Posts: 3,218
    Tbf, there's an old clip from some premiere where Aidan Turner's asked about Bond and his response was 'You're not getting an answer about Bond from me, darlin'!' I sometimes suspected that the various times in the press where he expressed disinterest in the role was just him playing EON's game of 'don't chase it in public or you'll be ruled out.' Even Tom Hardy refused to do that, for the same reason. Well, potential Bond actors don't have to be coy/reserved about it any more. It'll be interesting to see if anyone changes their approach and becomes much more vocal about wanting to play Bond now.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    I don't want Guy Ritchie or Matthew Vaughn near Bond, Please. Those two guys are the same thing. They were good in their early days, but not anymore. Also, what they both see as style isn't better than cartoons.
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