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  • GermanladyGermanlady
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    fanbond123 wrote: »
    Film critic Mark Kermode's review of Henry Cavill in Batman vs Superman:
    “He answers to no one, I think, not even to God,” declares one naysayer of Henry Cavill’s supremely uncharismatic Superman.

    Just one guy's opinion but I think there is a question mark over Cavill's ability to be suitably charismatic on screen. On the other hand, Daniel Craig is more of a blunt Bond than a charismatic one and the audience accept that approach. I don't think future Bond actors have to be overtly charismatic.

    I disagree and not only as the fangirl I am. I believe, DC is known as being very charismatic with a huge on screen presense. So I doubt, you can compare those two.

    Cavill is in the league of Sam Worthington and Kitsch.

  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I think we're all a little anxious for some real solid news. The trouble with letting all this percolate for too long is fan's expectations get a little inflated, and then could come crashing down. Hopefully we get some answers before the end of the year.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    Germanlady wrote: »
    fanbond123 wrote: »
    Film critic Mark Kermode's review of Henry Cavill in Batman vs Superman:
    “He answers to no one, I think, not even to God,” declares one naysayer of Henry Cavill’s supremely uncharismatic Superman.

    Just one guy's opinion but I think there is a question mark over Cavill's ability to be suitably charismatic on screen. On the other hand, Daniel Craig is more of a blunt Bond than a charismatic one and the audience accept that approach. I don't think future Bond actors have to be overtly charismatic.

    I disagree and not only as the fangirl I am. I believe, DC is known as being very charismatic with a huge on screen presense. So I doubt, you can compare those two.

    Cavill is in the league of Sam Worthington and Kitsch.

    Craig is extremely charismatic? That's one of his key strengths. Cavill isn't as talented as Craig in the the acting department. But charisma is again one of his strengths. His turn as Napolean Solo is all about charisma! He made made it to the final 2 for the Bond role in 2005 based on.......charisma within the screen tests, I would imagine.
  • GermanladyGermanlady
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    I guess, you are really pretty much alone in this. I never saw anybody accusing Cavill of toouch charisma.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    Germanlady wrote: »
    I guess, you are really pretty much alone in this. I never saw anybody accusing Cavill of toouch charisma.
    Germanlady wrote: »
    I guess, you are really pretty much alone in this. I never saw anybody accusing Cavill of toouch charisma.

    I'm pretty sure that the film studios and producers who made him a millionaire count. They obviously see this in him.
  • GermanladyGermanlady
    edited March 2016 Posts: 6,601
    His Superman is seen as weak...but whatever. I think, he got the job, because he totally looks like Superman. And all seem to talk how Affleck is so much superior to him.

    But its ok, if you see it in him, thats fine.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    edited March 2016 Posts: 5,131
    He's the best Superman so far and a much better actor than Reeve. Probably because he's a Brit.....where all the best leading men are from (with the exception of Leo Di Caprio). Anyway, getting back to the topic, if Craig has to be replaced......Tom Hiddleston......maybe.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    More Hiddleston chatter...


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3511767/Macho-stylish-love-Pine-proved-Tom-Hiddleston-perfect-Bond-finale-Night-Manager-Jim-Shelley.html
  • SatoriousSatorious Brushing up on a little Danish
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    I tune in after some break from the forums after watching the concluding episode of The Night Manager. Nothing! Seriously? What are you all watching because I'd easily take this over a mediocre Spectre. Must confess I didn't really see Hiddleston as much of a contender prior to this, here he is - grace under fire - looking classy/sophisticate whilst ordering Vodka Martini's, going to the casino, getting the babe, playing it cool etc. Fantastic spy stuff - if you haven't already - you owe it to yourself. How did he dry those trousers so quickly? :)
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
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    I've yet to see the the last 2 episodes of The Night Manager but must concur it's in another league to that disappointing over budgeted mess I saw back at the end of October.
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
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    I finished The Night Manager today and it is really great. For a TV series, it's in a league of it's own from the production value. And the last Episode is kind of like the final transformation of Hiddleston into a strong Bond contender. he did an awesome job overall, very charismatic and likeable.
  • PussyNoMorePussyNoMore
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    I must concur, 'The Night Manager' was absolutely fabulous and much better than 'Spectre'.
    Hiddleston is a stand out contender for the Bond role and has everything required to make 007 much more Flemingesque.
    He can even wear a suit without looking like he's going to burst a button!
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    PussyNoMore wrote: »
    He can even wear a suit without looking like he's going to burst a button!
    This may seem strange, but I really miss that element of Bond. Looking forward to it returning one day.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    If Gal Cadot gets cast as the main Bond girl in Bond 25, they can cast Batfleck as Bond, I don't care :))
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Apparently Gadot got into acting because of a Bond casting call. She did audition for a film, but I'm not sure which one it was.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Apparently Gadot got into acting because of a Bond casting call. She did audition for a film, but I'm not sure which one it was.
    I believe it was for Camille. Maybe she will pull a Monica Bellucci and appear in a later Bond film? She basically played a Bond girl in Batman V Superman.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    jake24 wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Apparently Gadot got into acting because of a Bond casting call. She did audition for a film, but I'm not sure which one it was.
    I believe it was for Camille. Maybe she will pull a Monica Bellucci and appear in a later Bond film? She basically played a Bond girl in Batman V Superman.

    She was a Bond girl in BvS and Batfleck was Bond, including tuxedo and Aston Martin. It's that simple!
  • BlofeldsScarBlofeldsScar
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    For anyone who's an advocate of Aidan Turner of Bond (and I know there's quite a few on here!), do you have any recommendations of films/TV shows to watch him in? The only thing I have ever seen him in is the Hobbit trilogy, where he portrayed a dwarf! I think he looks the part in a few pictures I've seen of him in real life, so he could be an intriguing choice.
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
    edited March 2016 Posts: 5,185
    BlofeldsScar wrote: »
    For anyone who's an advocate of Aidan Turner of Bond (and I know there's quite a few on here!), do you have any recommendations of films/TV shows to watch him in? The only thing I have ever seen him in is the Hobbit trilogy, where he portrayed a dwarf! I think he looks the part in a few pictures I've seen of him in real life, so he could be an intriguing choice.

    'And then there were none' is the go to series for every aspiring 'Aiden Turner for Bond' advocate :)
    It's a 3 hour bbc series, 3 episodes, which are also self contained. So its more like a tv movie in three parts
  • AceHoleAceHole Belgium, via Britain
    edited March 2016 Posts: 1,731
    suavejmf wrote: »
    He's the best Superman so far and a much better actor than Reeve. Probably because he's a Brit.....where all the best leading men are from (with the exception of Leo Di Caprio). Anyway, getting back to the topic, if Craig has to be replaced......Tom Hiddleston......maybe.

    Are you serious? You rate Cavill as a better ACTOR than Reeve? Or did you mean you prefer 'his' Superman to Reeve's...

    Christopher Reeve deliberately UNDERplayed (more tricky than it looks, ie. often the mark of a good actor when it's done right without being wooden) the part of Superman - whilst 'over'playing Clark Kent - which was a purely creative decision on his part, to highlight the duality of the character.
    Trust me, Reeve could act alright - even if you didn't see it :>
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    I rank Cavill's Superman behind Reeve, Welling, Routh.
    After BvS it's clear that Supes should stay dead.

    At least after this fiasco, Cavill is definitely out of the race for possible Bond.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    AceHole wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    He's the best Superman so far and a much better actor than Reeve. Probably because he's a Brit.....where all the best leading men are from (with the exception of Leo Di Caprio). Anyway, getting back to the topic, if Craig has to be replaced......Tom Hiddleston......maybe.

    Are you serious? You rate Cavill as a better ACTOR than Reeve? Or did you mean you prefer 'his' Superman to Reeve's...

    Both. Yes, I rate Cavill as a better ACTOR than Reeve.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    talos7 wrote: »
    More Hiddleston chatter...


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3511767/Macho-stylish-love-Pine-proved-Tom-Hiddleston-perfect-Bond-finale-Night-Manager-Jim-Shelley.html

    He's definitely a contender.
  • BlofeldsScarBlofeldsScar
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    @00Agent Thankyou very much, I shall give it a watch and see what I think of him in terms of being the next Bond!
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
    edited March 2016 Posts: 5,185
    @BlofeldsScar it is pretty enjoyable and has a great cast, with quite some ties to the Bond franchise. Charles Dance, Toby Stephens and Sam Neil all had something to do with Bond at some point, and of course Aiden Turner is also in it, who'll be the next Bond :D
  • AceHoleAceHole Belgium, via Britain
    edited March 2016 Posts: 1,731
    suavejmf wrote: »
    AceHole wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    He's the best Superman so far and a much better actor than Reeve. Probably because he's a Brit.....where all the best leading men are from (with the exception of Leo Di Caprio). Anyway, getting back to the topic, if Craig has to be replaced......Tom Hiddleston......maybe.

    Are you serious? You rate Cavill as a better ACTOR than Reeve? Or did you mean you prefer 'his' Superman to Reeve's...

    Both. Yes, I rate Cavill as a better ACTOR than Reeve.

    Horses for courses, I guess... d'you rate Kilmer's Bat' above Bale's as well then? :D
    It's a similar kind of chasm in acting ability.
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
    edited March 2016 Posts: 16,223
    suavejmf wrote: »
    AceHole wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    He's the best Superman so far and a much better actor than Reeve. Probably because he's a Brit.....where all the best leading men are from (with the exception of Leo Di Caprio). Anyway, getting back to the topic, if Craig has to be replaced......Tom Hiddleston......maybe.

    Are you serious? You rate Cavill as a better ACTOR than Reeve? Or did you mean you prefer 'his' Superman to Reeve's...

    Both. Yes, I rate Cavill as a better ACTOR than Reeve.

    I personally rate George Reeves above them all. The first season from 1951, IMO is THE way you do a dark Superman. Those half hour episodes are like mini film noir B-movies. All done with a low budget, solid writing and great actors who had worked for years in those kind of noir movies. The animated Batman episodes from the '90s had that noir feel as well.
    George was tough -the Connery of Superman. Case in point: classic moment in Superman II when Chris Reeve gives up his powers to be with Lois, goes to a diner and picks a fight with, and then gets slaughtered by the local truck driver bully. MoS had an homage to that scene. In the film noir 1951 season, had George been in the same situation-his powerless Superman would have whipped the guy, but maybe got a few scrapes in the process. The diner would have looked like the one Humphrey Bogart gets harrassed by the cop in DARK PASSAGE, and the powerless Superman would come off like Robert Mitchum in OUT OF THE PAST. George Reeves was that kind of actor.
    Getting back to Bond- I wouldn't be completely against Cavill, but he's still far from convincing me he'd be a great 007. I don't really want the next Bond to be quite that beefy.
  • AceHoleAceHole Belgium, via Britain
    edited March 2016 Posts: 1,731
    Can't believe some people think Cavill actually has what it takes. He is a veritable PLANK of an actor.
    Fine if you like your 007's tepid and bland, but I don't, thanks v much.

    Rating him above someone like Reeve who could actually act and had Juilliard stagecraft sensibilities just reeks of poor judgement, I'm afraid.
    This is the old 'Beatles vs Coldplay' debate - just because you like Coldplay more does not mean their craft is better.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I'd take a multitude of these choices or suggestions before I even entertained the idea of Cavill taking over. Nooooo thank you.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited March 2016 Posts: 15,723
    Even if Cavill was the only possible candidate, I'd rather they bring back Brosnan or Dalton as Bond instead of him. Heck, I'd even advocate an 8th film for Sir Rog if Cavill is the only alternative.
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