Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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    @bondjames, well, who knows with Malick... The movie may indeed be called Weightless, I'm not 100% sure, but that may now actually officially be the new name (previously Lawless... used for another movie in the end). It was shot years ago, and it's now supposed to be finished. When it may come out I have no idea. At least Knight Of Cups, which was filmed around the same time, finally came out.

    Yes, great cast for Weightless, too, though again, who knows who will actually appear in the final film. Bale only did 3 or 4 days on that one, and despite being friends with Malick he didn't seem to know if he's in it or not even as recently as this March when promoting KoC. So, the next movie coming out (where he definitely will be in) might be Terry George's The Promise with Oscar Isaac, scheduled for October release. Next one to be filmed I presume is Scott Cooper's Hostiles with Rosamund Pike, production starting in July.
  • edited April 2016 Posts: 15,229
    bondjames wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    I have to admit I love the guy. Brilliant actor.

    I wish he'd do something in the spy genre (my favourite).

    Paul Crocker in Queen&Country?
    I haven't read any of these, although I've heard of them. Are they planning to make a film out of it? A quick google search shows some similarities with the BBC Game series from last year.

    I think the movie has been in Development Hell for the last few years, with possibly Ellen Page as Tara Chace (the main character of the series). Q&C shares many similarities with The Sandbaggers, which it was heavily influenced on, to the point of being an unofficial sequel/remake.

    But anyway, off topic, but Christian Bale could pull a convincing Paul Crocker I think.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Thanks for the update on the Malick film @Tuulia. I've been curious as to what was happening with that. I still want to see Bale in a spy flick because I think he would be excellent in that genre. Fincher/Bale would be fantastic (coincidentally, I'm about to put in The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo on blu ray shortly tonight).

    @Ludovico, having just read a brief synopsis of the character and novel online, I think he would be a good fit for it. My dad used to watch The Sandbaggers when it was on tv. I didn't ever watch it myself.
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
    edited April 2016 Posts: 5,185
    bondjames wrote: »
    I still want to see Bale in a spy flick because I think he would be excellent in that genre. Fincher/Bale would be fantastic (coincidentally, I'm about to put in The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo on blu ray shortly tonight).

    The Dark Knight trilogy is in alot of ways a spy movie series, not to mention that Nolan was heavily influenced by the Bond franchise.
    The whole Honk Kong extraction sequence in Tdk, including the set up wit Lucius and Wayne, could have been straight out of a spy thriler. As well as a lot of the more realistic and functional gadgets
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited April 2016 Posts: 8,452
    What annoys me about Hiddleston is he is quite clearly someone who appeals to the teenage girl market, but there are hardcore Bond fans that present him as 'the smart choice', some kind of flemingesque character actor. What a load nonesense, am I right? Hiddy is not a Dalton or a Craig, he's a Moore. He's purely a crowd pleasing actor, the fangirls pick. If you want Bond to be your stereotypical charming, sophisticated English gent with a twirling bowtie, he's your guy. But that's not for me. If he is Bond, it'll be the laziest bit of Casting since Waltz was announced as Blofeld. All you presenting him as some sort of brave move, some wild card option need your heads checked. Tommy Hiddles is Hugh Grant 2.0, not Bond.

    Vote Turner!
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    What annoys me about Hiddleston is he is quite clearly someone who appeals to the teenage girl market, but there are hardcore Bond fans that present him as 'the smart choice', some kind of flemingesque character actor. What a load nonesense, am I right? Hiddy is not a Dalton or a Craig, he's a Moore. He's purely a crowd pleasing actor, the fangirls pick. If you want Bond to be your stereotypical charming, sophisticated English gent with a twirling bowtie, he's your guy. But that's not for me. If he is Bond, it'll be the laziest bit of Casting since Waltz was announced as Blofeld. All you presenting him as some sort of brave move, some wild card option need your heads checked. Tommy Hiddles is Hugh Grant 2.0, not Bond.

    Vote Turner!

    Neither Turner or Huddleston get my vote. Turner looks the part but lacks that charismatic edge. Huddleston can act but lacks any machismo.

    And Moore had that charisma so I don't agree there either.

    Sorry :(
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    mcdonbb wrote: »
    What annoys me about Hiddleston is he is quite clearly someone who appeals to the teenage girl market, but there are hardcore Bond fans that present him as 'the smart choice', some kind of flemingesque character actor. What a load nonesense, am I right? Hiddy is not a Dalton or a Craig, he's a Moore. He's purely a crowd pleasing actor, the fangirls pick. If you want Bond to be your stereotypical charming, sophisticated English gent with a twirling bowtie, he's your guy. But that's not for me. If he is Bond, it'll be the laziest bit of Casting since Waltz was announced as Blofeld. All you presenting him as some sort of brave move, some wild card option need your heads checked. Tommy Hiddles is Hugh Grant 2.0, not Bond.

    Vote Turner!

    Neither Turner or Huddleston get my vote. Turner looks the part but lacks that charismatic edge. Huddleston can act but lacks any machismo.

    And Moore had that charisma so I don't agree there either.

    Sorry :(

    My favourite Moore moment ever:

    "Oh, I think I should be able to find that."

    From AVTAK

    I don't hate Moore, he was perfect for the time. He probably should have gotten out after OP, his schtick was wearing thin by the eighties. I view the Moore era like an Elseworlds saga. It's not how I would choose my Bond to be, but I can appreciate the films for how they gave Bond an new dimension. TSWLM is perfectly 70's the same way GF is perfectly 60's. Neither are my favourite Bond film, but they are undeniably great their own ways.

    But I really don't think that would work today. I think Craig is definitely out, I'm sure of that. EON should transition smoothly into the next actor rather than make a big song and dance about it like they did with Craig. I absolutely love and adore the transition from Moore to Dalton. Its so smooth. TLD is like a Moore outing repurposed. They toned down the camp and cranked up the drama a few notches. Then with Dalton's second outing they moved further into designing the film to fit the actor. I'd much prefer this to a big splashy "we're going back to basics" opener. That's why it took the Craig era 3 films to get started and why we only ended up with one proper outing in the form of SPECTRE. EON listen to me, please. Use SP as the foundation. Salvage what you can and go from there. Don't whatever you do throw the baby out with the bathwater. This golden goose of yours has just reached point of lay, don't throw it out for a new egg to sit on.
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    I think Moore's somewhat comical/campy approach was exactly right for his era and made sure the franchise survived the seventies and early eighties.

    Regarding Turner, I only know his acting from The Hobbot-trilogy, so not much to go on there for a future Bond. By the look of him, I can see him as a new Bond. He does strike me as maybe too young.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    What annoys me about Hiddleston is he is quite clearly someone who appeals to the teenage girl market, but there are hardcore Bond fans that present him as 'the smart choice', some kind of flemingesque character actor. What a load nonesense, am I right? Hiddy is not a Dalton or a Craig, he's a Moore. He's purely a crowd pleasing actor, the fangirls pick. If you want Bond to be your stereotypical charming, sophisticated English gent with a twirling bowtie, he's your guy. But that's not for me. If he is Bond, it'll be the laziest bit of Casting since Waltz was announced as Blofeld. All you presenting him as some sort of brave move, some wild card option need your heads checked. Tommy Hiddles is Hugh Grant 2.0, not Bond.

    Vote Turner!

    Turner lacks charisma and quite frankly star appeal. Just my opinion.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    @Mendes4Lyfe, I don't know where you're getting these comparisons between Moore and Hiddles. Moore certainly could play tougher when the scenario required it, and did so on many an occasion during his run. I have yet to see Hiddleston be 'camp' or lightweight, except in Avengers which is a super hero film after all (it goes with the territory). Examples please?
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    If you want Bond to be your stereotypical charming, sophisticated English gent with a twirling bowtie, Brosnan is your guy? Moore made the part his own and could play tougher when the scenario required it. Hiddleston is a far more interesting choice than Turner.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    You see, every Bond actor has one outing that is universally loved (well except for the contrarians, but they can burn in hell). If Aidan is cast and starts shooting his first Bond in late 2017 like I presume he will, he will be 34. That's not too young, IMO. Infact thats the age Bond should be. Let's assume for a moment that EON gets their shit together and consistently releases a new Bond film every 3 years for the foreseeable future. That means he will have had 5 swings of the bat by the time he reaches 46. Then he should retire IMO. I don't like to see a Bond actor go stale on screen, I like to remember them at their peak. Besides, 5 films is a sizable oeuvre for a Bond actor. I mean that's more films than Han Solo ever had (yes, I know they are making young Han solo now) and more than Indiana Jones ever got (yes, yes, Indie 5 is around the corner, I know). More importantly, 5 films, spanning over more than decade, means there is a 95% chance we will get 'the one'. Every Bond actor has 'the one'. That film that defines their tenure and encapsulates their interpretation of the character. So if Aidan starts out with a weak offering, It won't matter to me. Every Bond actor has those too (at least the ones that stick around for long enough). But once we get his definitive performance, I know it will be the greatest Bond film possible. He can have 4 mediocre films for all I care, because once I have 'the one', I will have the best film by the best actor to play the best character ever created. That's why I want him to start young and take his time with each outing. Because ultimately there's only one that counts.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited April 2016 Posts: 23,883
    He can have 4 mediocre films for all I care, because once I have 'the one', I will have the best film by the best actor to play the best character ever created.
    I'm not sure I quite agree on this. I'd rather have 4 decent films than one standout and 3 mediocre (or rubbish,as the case may be) ones. I think we have already experienced that, regrettably, with Craig's predecessor (at least imho) and I wouldn't want a recurrence.

    I get your point about casting them a little younger, but an actor has to have the gravitas too in order to play Bond. Some develop it with age, and some don't. As an example, although I know some disagree, I don't think Cavill has developed it yet.

    With Turner, I just have to see more of his work. He doesn't seem to grab the screen despite being a good looking chap.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    bondjames wrote: »
    He can have 4 mediocre films for all I care, because once I have 'the one', I will have the best film by the best actor to play the best character ever created.
    I'm not sure I quite agree on this. I'd rather have 4 decent films than one standout and 3 mediocre (or rubbish,as the case may be) ones. I think we have already experienced that, regrettably, with Craig's predecessor (at least imho) and I wouldn't want a recurrence.

    I get your point about casting them a little younger, but an actor has to have the gravitas too in order to play Bond. Some develop it with age, and some don't. As an example, although I know some disagree, I don't think Cavill has developed it yet.

    With Turner, I just have to see more of his work. He doesn't seem to grab the screen despite being a good looking chap.

    Cavill doesn't impress me at all. I admit I waffle with Hiddleston.
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    mcdonbb wrote: »
    What annoys me about Hiddleston is he is quite clearly someone who appeals to the teenage girl market, but there are hardcore Bond fans that present him as 'the smart choice', some kind of flemingesque character actor. What a load nonesense, am I right? Hiddy is not a Dalton or a Craig, he's a Moore. He's purely a crowd pleasing actor, the fangirls pick. If you want Bond to be your stereotypical charming, sophisticated English gent with a twirling bowtie, he's your guy. But that's not for me. If he is Bond, it'll be the laziest bit of Casting since Waltz was announced as Blofeld. All you presenting him as some sort of brave move, some wild card option need your heads checked. Tommy Hiddles is Hugh Grant 2.0, not Bond.

    Vote Turner!

    Neither Turner or Huddleston get my vote. Turner looks the part but lacks that charismatic edge. Huddleston can act but lacks any machismo.

    And Moore had that charisma so I don't agree there either.

    Sorry :(

    Tom Huddlestone plays for Hull City :)
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    tanaka123 wrote: »
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    What annoys me about Hiddleston is he is quite clearly someone who appeals to the teenage girl market, but there are hardcore Bond fans that present him as 'the smart choice', some kind of flemingesque character actor. What a load nonesense, am I right? Hiddy is not a Dalton or a Craig, he's a Moore. He's purely a crowd pleasing actor, the fangirls pick. If you want Bond to be your stereotypical charming, sophisticated English gent with a twirling bowtie, he's your guy. But that's not for me. If he is Bond, it'll be the laziest bit of Casting since Waltz was announced as Blofeld. All you presenting him as some sort of brave move, some wild card option need your heads checked. Tommy Hiddles is Hugh Grant 2.0, not Bond.

    Vote Turner!

    Neither Turner or Huddleston get my vote. Turner looks the part but lacks that charismatic edge. Huddleston can act but lacks any machismo.

    And Moore had that charisma so I don't agree there either.

    Sorry :(

    Tom Huddlestone plays for Hull City :)

    Lol auto correct
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited April 2016 Posts: 8,452
    bondjames wrote: »
    He can have 4 mediocre films for all I care, because once I have 'the one', I will have the best film by the best actor to play the best character ever created.
    I'm not sure I quite agree on this. I'd rather have 4 decent films than one standout and 3 mediocre (or rubbish,as the case may be) ones. I think we have already experienced that, regrettably, with Craig's predecessor (at least imho) and I wouldn't want a recurrence.

    I get your point about casting them a little younger, but an actor has to have the gravitas too in order to play Bond. Some develop it with age, and some don't. As an example, although I know some disagree, I don't think Cavill has developed it yet.

    With Turner, I just have to see more of his work. He doesn't seem to grab the screen despite being a good looking chap.

    Interesting. I don't agree with any of this. If you gave me the master copy of OHMSS in one hand and the master copies of FYEO, TND, DAD, QOS in the other and told me I had to let one hand go into the ocean, I would drop those films like an ugly baby. Those four films are decent to poor iterations of the same basic formula. They're curios for Bond fans to look back on and discuss. They hit their marks with the general audience of the time, made a nice profit and promptly faded from the collective consciousness. OHMSS transcends the formula. It is a new marvel every time I watch it. For me, there is more to enjoy in that one film than those others combined. Films like that make cinema what it is- they define the medium. As much as I enjoy every Bond film for their own quirks, there are probably half a dozen that stand apart and outshine the rest. So if Turner delivers a limp effort for starters, It won't bother me because he has enough time where he can nail the role in one franchise redefining outing, a proper corker from start to finish, and the rest of his tenure will cease to matter. I can just rewatch that for as many times as I want.

    I really love to love stuff, and the more I can love something with as few reservations as possible, the happier I am. I don't care if people disagree, If I can sit down and watch something and honestly find nothing negative to say about it, then as far as I'm concerned, it's perfect. Like I said earlier, Spy films are the perfect genre (IMO) and James Bond is a perfect character (IMO). Turner could be the perfect Bond actor (again, IMO- the right mix of Connery cool and Dalton intensity), and if all these things come together, and that magic happens like it does roughly once per decade with this franchise, then I have no reason to believe it won't be the greatest cinematic experience ever conceived. The rest of the tenure won't make a difference in comparison to that achievement.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    @Mendes4Lyfe, it's true that we all have our favourites. I'm happy to say that two of Craig's make my top 10, namely CR & SF. If you put it that way (walking into an ocean and all of that) then I'd gladly go with FRWL in my hand.

    If you'll permit me to suggest another way of looking at it: If a hypothetical Turner tenure could improve with each film, that's great. However if he peaked with his first one, like Brosnan and arguably Craig has done, then perhaps I would want him replaced sooner, and consequently it wouldn't matter how old he was when he was cast.
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    If Aidan is cast and starts shooting his first Bond in late 2017 like I presume he will, he will be 34. That's not too young, IMO. Infact thats the age Bond should be.
    At their first Bond-outings, Connery was 32, Lazenby was 30, Moore was 45, Dalton was 39, Brosnan was 42 and Craig was 37. Which proves that the number of years has little or nothing to do with it.
    Let's assume for a moment that EON gets their shit together and consistently releases a new Bond film every 3 years for the foreseeable future. That means he will have had 5 swings of the bat by the time he reaches 46. Then he should retire IMO. I don't like to see a Bond actor go stale on screen, I like to remember them at their peak. Besides, 5 films is a sizable oeuvre for a Bond actor.

    Meaning they don't go stale before their 5th? YOTL was Connery's 5th, FYEO was Moore's 5th and DAD was Brosnan's 5th - 2 of which you're chucking in the ocean.
    Every Bond actor has 'the one'. That film that defines their tenure and encapsulates their interpretation of the character. So if Aidan starts out with a weak offering, It won't matter to me. Every Bond actor has those too (at least the ones that stick around for long enough). But once we get his definitive performance, I know it will be the greatest Bond film possible.

    I've only been on this forum for about a week, but it's very clear from other discussions that the definitive performance of a Bond-actor and the greatest Bond film he's in, aren't necessarily the same. And certainly not the same for the public.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    If Aidan is cast and starts shooting his first Bond in late 2017 like I presume he will, he will be 34. That's not too young, IMO. Infact thats the age Bond should be.
    At their first Bond-outings, Connery was 32, Lazenby was 30, Moore was 45, Dalton was 39, Brosnan was 42 and Craig was 37. Which proves that the number of years has little or nothing to do with it.
    Let's assume for a moment that EON gets their shit together and consistently releases a new Bond film every 3 years for the foreseeable future. That means he will have had 5 swings of the bat by the time he reaches 46. Then he should retire IMO. I don't like to see a Bond actor go stale on screen, I like to remember them at their peak. Besides, 5 films is a sizable oeuvre for a Bond actor.

    Meaning they don't go stale before their 5th? YOTL was Connery's 5th, FYEO was Moore's 5th and DAD was Brosnan's 5th - 2 of which you're chucking in the ocean.
    Every Bond actor has 'the one'. That film that defines their tenure and encapsulates their interpretation of the character. So if Aidan starts out with a weak offering, It won't matter to me. Every Bond actor has those too (at least the ones that stick around for long enough). But once we get his definitive performance, I know it will be the greatest Bond film possible.

    I've only been on this forum for about a week, but it's very clear from other discussions that the definitive performance of a Bond-actor and the greatest Bond film he's in, aren't necessarily the same. And certainly not the same for the public.

    DAD was Brosnan's fourth.
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    DAD was Brosnan's fourth.
    :\">

    Still, thank goodness for that.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited April 2016 Posts: 8,452
    Hey, I just realised what makes Aidan Turner the perfect incarnation of Bond:

    Looks wise he is full on Connery, with a hint of that Dalton wolfish look and just a slight whiff of Lee Van Cleef.

    Presence wise he is total Dalton, through and through. I don't know if anyone remembers, but there is that scene in TLD where Dalton turns to camera and says: 'yes, I got the message'. I think that will be Turners bread and butter. Very cynical and sinister at the same time. He also has that aura of Connery coolness about him.

    Just some more bondian moments from TLD:


    Bond driving with Saunders when he says "scared TLD out of her".

    Bond smoking with Q. Bond should smoke more nowadays. Maybe he took Osato's advice.

    Bond forcably stripping that woman to use her as a distraction. While not pleasant, this is the ruthless Bond we should have now.

    Bond attempting suicide before the drug can take affect. Bond wouldn't think twice about killing himself, that's how cold he is.

    [/quote]
  • Hey, I just realised what makes Aidan Turner the perfect incarnation of Bond:

    Looks wise he is full on Connery, with a hint of that Dalton wolfish look and just a slight whiff of Lee Van Cleef.

    Presence wise he is total Dalton, through and through. I don't know if anyone remembers, but there is that scene in TLD where Dalton turns to camera and says: 'yes, I got the message'. I think that will be Turners bread and butter. Very cynical and sinister at the same time. He also has that aura of Connery coolness about him.

    Just some more bondian moments from TLD:


    Bond driving with Saunders when he says "scared TLD out of her".

    Bond smoking with Q. Bond should smoke more nowadays. Maybe he took Osato's advice.

    Bond forcably stripping that woman to use her as a distraction. While not pleasant, this is the ruthless Bond we should have now.

    Bond attempting suicide before the drug can take affect. Bond wouldn't think twice about killing himself, that's how cold he is.
    [/quote]

    Thought I'd post this again. I edited this to give more an idea of how perfect I think Turner will be:

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  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited April 2016 Posts: 8,452
    Hey, I just realised what makes Aidan Turner the perfect incarnation of Bond:

    Looks wise he is full on Connery, with a hint of that Dalton wolfish look and just a slight whiff of Lee Van Cleef.

    Presence wise he is total Dalton, through and through. I don't know if anyone remembers, but there is that scene in TLD where Dalton turns to camera and says: 'yes, I got the message'. I think that will be Turners bread and butter. Very cynical and sinister at the same time. He also has that aura of Connery coolness about him.

    Just some more bondian moments from TLD:


    Bond driving with Saunders when he says "scared TLD out of her".

    Bond smoking with Q. Bond should smoke more nowadays. Maybe he took Osato's advice.

    Bond forcably stripping that woman to use her as a distraction. While not pleasant, this is the ruthless Bond we should have now.

    Bond attempting suicide before the drug can take affect. Bond wouldn't think twice about killing himself, that's how cold he is.

    Thought I'd post this again. I edited this to give more an idea of how perfect I think Turner will be:

    15xlcea.jpg[/quote]

    A Mixture of Dr No Connery and LTK Dalton. Mmmm.... =P~
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    @Mendes4Lyfe I think @MadeleineSwann just made you very happy <:-P
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited April 2016 Posts: 23,883
    There is nothing wrong with Turner's look. That's not the possible issue with him in my view. The possible issue is his screen presence & voice.

    I had asked about a month ago if anyone could post something that shows him command the screen and deliver something Bondian. I didn't see it in the youtube clip of him from And Then There Were None which was posted before personally, which is why I was hoping for another example. Being Bond is more than looking good in a suit, as we've learnt the hard way in the past.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited April 2016 Posts: 23,883
    Bond attempting suicide before the drug can take affect. Bond wouldn't think twice about killing himself, that's how cold he is.
    Is that really what he was trying to do in that scene? I had no idea. I just thought he was getting the gun out to try and defend himself and then lost control as the drug took effect. If true, this is definitely an "I never noticed that before" thread moment for me.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Bond attempting suicide before the drug can take affect. Bond wouldn't think twice about killing himself, that's how cold he is.
    Is that really what he was trying to do in that scene? I had no idea. I just thought he was getting the gun out to try and defend himself and then lost control as the drug took effect. If true, this is definitely an "I never noticed that before" thread moment for me.
    I don't think he was attempting suicide. I've heard that brought up before.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Bond attempting suicide before the drug can take affect. Bond wouldn't think twice about killing himself, that's how cold he is.
    Is that really what he was trying to do in that scene? I had no idea. I just thought he was getting the gun out to try and defend himself and then lost control as the drug took effect. If true, this is definitely an "I never noticed that before" thread moment for me.

    Yea I didn't catch that or interpret that that way either.

    I did catch Camille requesting Bond to shot her instead of dying by fire in QoS and Bond obliging until he saw another alternative. Not sure if the audience as a whole caught that.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    jake24 wrote: »
    I don't think he was attempting suicide. I've heard that brought up before.
    Phew. Thanks. I was shocked I had potentially missed that.
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    I did catch Camille requesting Bond to shot her instead of dying by fire in QoS and Bond obliging until he saw another alternative. Not sure if the audience as a whole caught that.
    Yes, I caught that myself, but I wouldn't be surprised if audience members missed it, because Kurlyenko has a tendency to garble her words unless one listens to her carefully. I recently watched The November Man, and found her difficult to understand in places there as well.
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