Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    jake24 wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Bond attempting suicide before the drug can take affect. Bond wouldn't think twice about killing himself, that's how cold he is.
    Is that really what he was trying to do in that scene? I had no idea. I just thought he was getting the gun out to try and defend himself and then lost control as the drug took effect. If true, this is definitely an "I never noticed that before" thread moment for me.
    I don't think he was attempting suicide. I've heard that brought up before.

    The Bond in the books threw away his cyanide pills.
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Bond attempting suicide before the drug can take affect. Bond wouldn't think twice about killing himself, that's how cold he is.
    Is that really what he was trying to do in that scene? I had no idea. I just thought he was getting the gun out to try and defend himself and then lost control as the drug took effect. If true, this is definitely an "I never noticed that before" thread moment for me.

    We're talking about a man who has faced and defied some pretty desperate situations. I really don't think some drug taking effect, will make him contemplate suicide. It would be a short-lived franchise. Moreover, I see no logic, reason or motive for him to contemplate suicide at that moment.

    He's taking out his gun as he realises he's been drugged, because his instinct tells him it's only a matter of seconds before some henchman will take advantage of the situation.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    edited April 2016 Posts: 10,591
    jake24 wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Bond attempting suicide before the drug can take affect. Bond wouldn't think twice about killing himself, that's how cold he is.
    Is that really what he was trying to do in that scene? I had no idea. I just thought he was getting the gun out to try and defend himself and then lost control as the drug took effect. If true, this is definitely an "I never noticed that before" thread moment for me.
    I don't think he was attempting suicide. I've heard that brought up before.

    The Bond in the books threw away his cyanide pills.
    I know.
    bondjames wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    I don't think he was attempting suicide. I've heard that brought up before.
    Phew. Thanks. I was shocked I had potentially missed that.
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    I did catch Camille requesting Bond to shot her instead of dying by fire in QoS and Bond obliging until he saw another alternative. Not sure if the audience as a whole caught that.
    Yes, I caught that myself, but I wouldn't be surprised if audience members missed it, because Kurlyenko has a tendency to garble her words unless one listens to her carefully. I recently watched The November Man, and found her difficult to understand in places there as well.
    I found her performance in NM to be inferior to her performance in Quantum.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    edited April 2016 Posts: 4,585
    This piece on Hiddleston just popped up on FiveThirtyEight. Good read.

    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/pray-your-favorite-actor-doesnt-become-james-bond/

    Hiddleston has his fans, and I'm not against the idea of him being Bond, but he'd need to pack on some weight. He reminds me too much of Tim Roth.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    Hey, I just realised what makes Aidan Turner the perfect incarnation of Bond:

    Looks wise he is full on Connery, with a hint of that Dalton wolfish look and just a slight whiff of Lee Van Cleef.

    Presence wise he is total Dalton, through and through. I don't know if anyone remembers, but there is that scene in TLD where Dalton turns to camera and says: 'yes, I got the message'. I think that will be Turners bread and butter. Very cynical and sinister at the same time. He also has that aura of Connery coolness about him.

    Just some more bondian moments from TLD:


    Bond driving with Saunders when he says "scared TLD out of her".

    Bond smoking with Q. Bond should smoke more nowadays. Maybe he took Osato's advice.

    Bond forcably stripping that woman to use her as a distraction. While not pleasant, this is the ruthless Bond we should have now.

    Bond attempting suicide before the drug can take affect. Bond wouldn't think twice about killing himself, that's how cold he is.
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    I never thought that Bond might be attempting suicide. I've always taken it at face value, as the chloral hydrate is kicking in, Bond is starting to loose his co-ordination.

    I agree with you on Turner, though. If Craig doesn't want to come back, then Turner should be cast for Bond #25.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited April 2016 Posts: 8,399
    If Turner is cast I will sh%t several bricks.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    Good luck with that.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited April 2016 Posts: 23,883
    Just watching The Night Manager. During first ad break now so thought I'd quickly post my thoughts.

    Excellent show. Very tense start. Hiddleston was my top pick to take over from Craig before, and he has solidified that position so far. This man has the 'it' factor as far as I'm concerned. He walks with purpose, speaks in the manner and with the authority that one would expect, and has the height that a Bond actor should have. Those are just the physical attributes.

    His acting is pitch perfect here as well. I realize he's not playing Bond, but he might as well should be because he is projecting Bondian characteristics very naturally from what I can see here so far.
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Just watching The Night Manager. During first ad break now so thought I'd quickly post my thoughts.

    Excellent show. Very tense start. Hiddleston was my top pick to take over from Craig before, and he has solidified that position so far. This man has the 'it' factor as far as I'm concerned. He walks with purpose, speaks in the manner and with the authority that one would expect, and has the height that a Bond actor should have. Those are just the physical attributes.

    His acting is pitch perfect here as well. I realize he's not playing Bond, but he might as well should be because he is projecting Bondian characteristics very naturally from what I can see here so far.

    Wait till you get to the last episode, he has a 'Bondian' moment there with a certain drink.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    Hiddleston does not have the cold hard looks in my opinion.

    Craig I guess doesn't look the part either though.

    I don't know. I don't have a favorite candidate yet.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    bondjames wrote: »
    There is nothing wrong with Turner's look. That's not the possible issue with him in my view. The possible issue is his screen presence & voice.

    Nail on head bondjames.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    There is nothing wrong with Turner's look. That's not the possible issue with him in my view. The possible issue is his screen presence & voice.

    Nail on head bondjames.

    I agree.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    edited April 2016 Posts: 5,131
    I've now watched 'The Night Manager'. I want DC to stay. But if he has to be replaced I'm sold on Tom Hiddleston. Charisma, screen presence, good looking, the physique that Fleming described, good at action and the drama, good age, height and has a perfect voice for the role.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Welcome aboard the 'Hiddle Train' @suavejmf. It's good to have you with us.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    I'm still team Turner; he had a dark intensity but also an almost boyish charm that would allow him to toss the occasional glib line.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    edited April 2016 Posts: 40,976
    Plot twist: people spend weeks and months discussing Hiddleston and Turner and the role ends up going to someone random or unexpected.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited April 2016 Posts: 23,883
    @Creasy47, as long as it's someone with Hiddleston's demonstrated acting capabilities, screen charisma, intensity and verve (or someone who can bring that to the table), I'll be all for it. If it's a pretty boy lacking the necessary skills, then I'll admit that I'll be highly disappointed.

    As mentioned, my only major physical wish for Bond #7 is that he be a little naturally suaver than Craig, with a bit more polish, and a little taller.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I've seen people bring up how it can't be particular actors due to their mass/muscle...people do know there's this thing called exercise and weights, right? Where you can bulk up? I believe it was even Hiddleston who noted there's a lot of physicality that comes with the role and if he were to get the role, he would give it 100%. May have been someone else who said it, but I believe it was him.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    bondjames wrote: »
    @Creasy47, as long as it's someone with Hiddleston's demonstrated acting capabilities, screen charisma, intensity and verve (or someone who can bring that to the table), I'll be all for it. If it's a pretty boy lacking the necessary skills, then I'll admit that I'll be highly disappointed.

    As mentioned, my only major physical wish for Bond #7 is that he be a little naturally suaver than Craig, with a bit more polish, and a little taller.

    Agree.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Plot twist: people spend weeks and months discussing Hiddleston and Turner and the role ends up going to someone random or unexpected.

    Most of us realize that this is probable. Anybody remember Clive Owen? :D

  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited April 2016 Posts: 15,718
    @Creasy47 people keep bringing up Craig as the benchmark for future Bond casting, yet 99% of the members of this forums would have laughed at the idea of Daniel Craig as James Bond at the same stage of Bond 21's production. So that's why nobody got even the slightest clue on who will be Craig's successor.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    @Creasy47 people keep bringing up Craig as the benchmark for future Bond casting, yet 99% of the members of this forums would have laughed at the idea of Daniel Craig as James Bond at the same stage of Bond 21's production. So that's why nobody got even the slightest clue on who will be Craig's successor.

    But to be fair Craig was the first unexpected choice for Bond, Moore, Dalton and Brosnan were expected for some time.

    I'm not so sure EON will again opt for someone unknown as Craig was. They may want to have some level of star power, not too much of course, but Aidan Turner or Hiddleston would have that quality.
    Dan Stevens (my favourite) is unknown.
    Idris Elba or Tom Hardy or Fassbender would have too much star power I think. Therefore I don't believe any of them will be Bond.

    Nicholas Hoult could also be a choice if Craig returns for one more.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    edited April 2016 Posts: 45,489
    Lazenby was completely unexpected.

    Come to think of it, Connery was as well.
  • edited April 2016 Posts: 6,432
    10 Actors Who Could Play James Bond



    Interesting list, some I would have never considered.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Welcome aboard the 'Hiddle Train' @suavejmf. It's good to have you with us.

    Happy to be there. Thanks.
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
    edited April 2016 Posts: 1,756
    Damn, Michael Fassbender would make such a good James Bond. He's probably my top pick at the moment. Over Hiddleston or Turner. He has a perfect mix of brutality, suaveness, machiavellian traits. I could see him being a modern Connery. I can't see him being emotionally vulnerable though. Which is a good thing.

    He's 39 at the moment, if Craig were to decide to leave, he's just within the right age.
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
    edited April 2016 Posts: 2,138
    Still believe Dan will be back for the next one produced late 2017 for 2018 release. Big time for EON potentially changing Studio, new studio will want a sure fire hit, rather than risk a new Bond not living up to expectations. 3 Years between Spectre to the next there will be a global audience booking out to see it, like they did with Spectre after Skyfall. The studio will throw mega bucks at Dan and by that time he will have had 2 year off it, recharged and itching to get going.

    I think its clear he could live with out the PR aspect of the job, it must be exhausting making the film then immediately going to out sell it to the world 250 interviews of the same questions. I would say I would rather I'd slit my wrist too, but once you recharge and reflect I think he realised as we all would that being Bond is the best job in the world and I think he will find it difficult to say no. I also think he enjoys watching all these names being linked, then he steps forward it's a reminder of just how lucky he is that he is envy of all male actors.

    Two comments right at the end of the press run for Spectre.

    Michael G "we think we've got him"
    Daniel Craig "I might do another one, maybe another two, I don't know, now's not the time to think about it"

    Dan has never come out after one Bond movie and said yip I definitely doing another one. He's more coy than that for an actor it's like saying "pay me less for the next one for the same work I did on this one".

    Between October when both comments were made and now, I don't see Dan making the rush decision to quit. I highly doubt he would have rushed the decision.

    Two things

    Bond Sell's newspapers, New Bond actor stories is free work for the media to copy paste and sell.

    Betting shops take a sudden influx in money on the next Bond.

    It is both industries who keep this going between Bond films both making money.

    So for that reason, Bond will be back, I believe Dan will be too.



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    Damn, Michael Fassbender would make such a good James Bond. He's probably my top pick at the moment. Over Hiddleston or Turner. He has a perfect mix of brutality, suaveness, machiavellian traits. I could see him being a modern Connery. I can't see him being emotionally vulnerable though. Which is a good thing.

    He's 39 at the moment, if Craig were to decide to leave, he's just within the right age.

    I can.

    Anyway, I agree he'd probably be great, I just can't imagine it happening. Probably too old as well.

  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I'm all for Fassbender and think he would be great. He has all the qualities to make an excellent Bond. However, ideally he should have got it about 5 yrs ago. By the time they get round to B25, he may just be a little too old for a decent run.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    If Craig leaves, Fassbender is the best choice to take over.
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