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  • TuuliaTuulia
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    CommanderRoss wrote: »
    Tuulia wrote: »
    CommanderRoss wrote: »
    thelivingroyale wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Don't know if it's the script of 50 Shades Darker but I'd rather never see Jamie Dornan as James Bond.

    To be fair he's supposed to be quite good in that Irish serial killer thing, and I saw him in a film on Netflix recently called The Siege of Jadotville and he was quite good in that. So I think 50 Shades is probably a case of the material letting him down, which is a shame because he's going to find it very hard to escape that imo (certainly won't get Bond now). But to be fair I'd imagine it was hard to turn down given how well it must pay.

    That was the single worst acting ever hyped on this planet. They could've had an Orang Utan play Gray better than that. At least the 'masculinity' would've been covered. It goes to show you can sell anything if the marketing budget is big enough.

    I wonder which part of the marketing was effective. I only saw the trailer - unfortunately multiple times - when going to see other movies, and it was really boring, bland, uninteresting, and with zero chemistry, and it seemed to suggest the movie was going to be really boring, bland, uninteresting and with zero chemistry. So I wouldn't have bothered to go even if given free tickets. I guess there must have been some better marketing somewhere.

    I think it's a very good discription of the film. I had to sit through it because my then girlfriend wanted to go and I had to make up for something, which was paid back in full by watching the first two minutes and if I were still in contact with her she'd owe me a lot for the rest!

    Anyway, the book was poorly written too a.f.a.k., but it all played into the 'housewife fantasies', which says a lot about the people actually going to the film. The advertisements were, again to my knowledge, aimed at this group of people, especially with 'specials' in appropriate magazines and so on and so forth.

    I suppose. I never saw other advertising apart from the trailer. I also heard or read much earlier that the book was crap, too, so I never had the slightest interest in the movie in the first place. - But admittedly most movies people flock in to see hold no interest for me.
    I do watch crap sometimes (I mean even when knowing beforehand the movie won't be any good), if people whose work I'm interested in are involved, but that one didn't have that aspect, either.
    As for playing into fantasies, nothing wrong with that, a lot of movies do that (like, um, Bond, eh?), but if they do it badly, well... that's just not rewarding in any way. I know plenty people saw that movie, but I don't know how many actually enjoyed it, perhaps most didn't. Or hell, maybe they did? I'm sure some must have even liked that trailer enough to go see it, so...

  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    As far as I can understand many did. But for me it's rather difficult to understand housewife's fantasies, tbh. Not really my cup of tea, so to speak. Not much of a connection i'm afraid. Still, the acting was horrendous, the story as thin as the latest graphite and put together by a five year old.

    this sums it up quite nicely:
    http://deadline.com/2016/02/razzie-awards-winners-2016-full-list-golden-raspberry-awards-1201710388/
  • TuuliaTuulia
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    @CommanderRoss, I didn't know it was specifically housewife fantasies (or how one could even determine that so specifically), I assumed it was just sexual fantasies, which is something anyone has. If badly done, I don't know why housewives (?) would enjoy it anymore than anyone else. But, I'm also puzzled who exactly enjoys most "comedies" or most "romantic comedies" or most (generic and boring) action movies (and I'm not against any of those genres as such), so I'm pretty often, you know, "people actually like this???"... :)
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    @tuulia tbh I have that from the local media which portrayed it that way. Apparently that was the main public. I'd say go and see those movies, but watch the public instead of the film... The beauty of taste is, there's an endless variaty. But if yours isn't what makes the highest box office scores, it's sometimes difficult to understand for sure. I have the same. Especially with comedies, to the point I seldom like what comes from the USA. I love British humour, allthough lately it's been going into US territory. Russian humour is far darker, but I miss most of it as the language is more layered then my own, and translations aren't covering the jokes completely.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    How about this guy?
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  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    How about this guy?
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    STEPHEN KING'S THAT
  • fanbond123fanbond123
    edited July 2017 Posts: 1,661
    Just a suggestion - when the new Bond actor is cast it might be worth doing something similar to what they the BBC have done with the new Doctor Who actor. A short video introducing the next James Bond to the public:



    The reveal is in the video, not in a press statement. A few days after the video is hosted online there can follow a press conference. :)
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    like the idea. Press conferences are a bore anyway
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    For a moment I thought you meant look also for actresses.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    For a moment I thought you meant look also for actresses.

    hahahaha no. just no. Well, for Bond girls, sure. ;-)
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Christopher Nolan endorses Tom Hardy for Bond.

    http://www.thewrap.com/christopher-nolan-endorses-tom-hardy-james-bond-hed-amazing/amp/
  • barryt007barryt007
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    Like I said many times before : if Nolan is director,then Hardy will star.
    They will come as a pair.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    Like I said many times before : if Nolan is director,then Hardy will star.
    They will come as a pair.

    But if Nolan isn't ready for Bond 25, then Hardy will be too old surely? If Hardy is going to Bond, it has to be Bond 25 IMO.

    Unless they just do a one off Bond adventure. A one film tenure.
  • peterpeter Toronto
    edited July 2017 Posts: 9,509
    Speculation, but I doubt Babs would want a one and done deal for either of these two. I imagine, if this were to ever come to fruition, Nolan's "concept" would be stretched over a trilogy.

    Does that mean he would write all three, direct the first one, then produce the last two with Babs (because he may not want to be locked into a decade-worth of directorial duties on one character/story-line)?

    Who knows, but, out of all the names to replace Craig, at least this is interesting (especially if Hardy came pre-packaged with Nolan), and would get me excited.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    peter wrote: »
    Speculation, but I doubt Babs would want a one and done deal for either of these two. I imagine, if this were to ever come to fruition, Nolan's "concept" would be stretched over a trilogy.

    Does that mean he would write all three, direct the first one, then produce the last two with Babs (because he may not want to be locked into a decade-worth of directorial duties on one character/story-line)?

    Who knows, but, out of all the names to replace Craig, at least this is interesting (especially if Hardy came pre-packaged with Nolan), and would get me excited.

    Exactly. I think they would want a Nolan trilogy, which is why they would have to start with Bond 25, surely? If not then Hardy would be 44 at least by the time they started.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    44? Wow, that is so old. Practically close to death.
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    44 is too old to start a Bond tenure. And before people start mentioning Roger Moore: he was cast as Bond at a time when they could make the movies faster and he looked far younger than he was.
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    Like I said many times before : if Nolan is director,then Hardy will star.
    They will come as a pair.

    You may well be right their Barry?
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    Like I said many times before : if Nolan is director,then Hardy will star.
    They will come as a pair.

    But if Nolan isn't ready for Bond 25, then Hardy will be too old surely? If Hardy is going to Bond, it has to be Bond 25 IMO.

    Unless they just do a one off Bond adventure. A one film tenure.

    My money is on Bond 26 for Nolan? As for Hardy and his age by then? If they did come as a pair? And Nolan already has his own vision potentially over a 3 movie period? Perhaps the pair would start immediately once DC steps down and churn a film out every 2 years to factor in Hardy's age?
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Yuck yuck and yuck. I hope it never happens.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Tux, shades, cigar, we have our man
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  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    That's a suit not a dinner jacket (or tux)... and the least of the reasons why he won't be Bond.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    oops

    This one, then
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  • LudovicoLudovico
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    I love what Nolan did with Batman but not sure I'd like him to direct a Bond movie and certainly not the same way. But what make people think he'd go the Batman route with Bond, with a trilogy and all?
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    I love what Nolan did with Batman but not sure I'd like him to direct a Bond movie and certainly not the same way. But what make people think he'd go the Batman route with Bond, with a trilogy and all?
    It's normal for people to extrapolate based on what's been done in the past. It's also rather simplistic, and more likely to be incorrect when making such assumptions about real creative types like Nolan, because they have a tendency to innovate & to be unpredictable.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Just came across this chap in Dunkirk. I don't know much about him but he was reasonably impressive in the film. He could have potential for the future.

    Jack Lowden. 27 years old

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  • peterpeter Toronto
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    @bondjames ... he still has spots

    (I joke-- I'm seeing Dunkirk tomorrow-- what were your thoughts?)
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited July 2017 Posts: 23,883
    @peter, he is much better (and more mature looking) in the film than he looks in photos.

    RE: Dunkirk: I posted a spoiler free review in the Last Movie You Watched thread. It's very different from anything Nolan has done before (almost no dialogue, so it's like a silent film in a way). It's a visceral sonic/visual experience like no other. Very immediate and intense. I really enjoyed it and highly recommend it.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    I have read similar reviews @bondjames and I am looking forward to see my first "summer film"...

    I can't wait!
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    edited July 2017 Posts: 15,129
    bondjames wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Just came across this chap in Dunkirk. I don't know much about him but he was reasonably impressive in the film. He could have potential for the future.

    Jack Lowden. 27 years old

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    Haven't seen him in anything myself, but far from a bad idea @bondjames
    Give him a few years to mature (facially) and he could be a definite candidate. I know he's been mentioned before, but I can't help feel that Tom Cullen http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3665787/?ref_=nv_sr_1 would have to be on the possible candidates to become Bond in the future.
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  • LudovicoLudovico
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I love what Nolan did with Batman but not sure I'd like him to direct a Bond movie and certainly not the same way. But what make people think he'd go the Batman route with Bond, with a trilogy and all?
    It's normal for people to extrapolate based on what's been done in the past. It's also rather simplistic, and more likely to be incorrect when making such assumptions about real creative types like Nolan, because they have a tendency to innovate & to be unpredictable.

    I understand but it is a silly assumption.

    And although I know nothing about Lowden and think he's too young I'm glad some people are suggesting actors not pushing 40 already.
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