Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    I would’ve rather had Owen over Craig, personally.

    Better make that two. In 2005 we had names like Clive Owen, fast forward 13 years, and now we have... Harry Styles. Good god, what the hell happened?
    Why on earth you want a cardboard box as 007 is beyond me
    Better than having a thuggish hunchback as Bond (Hardy).
    Glad you clarified!
    Haha!
  • Turner and Hardy are probably the best choices at the moment.

    Most famous you mean.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    I watched Legend (2015) a few months ago (back when I was on a brief hiatus from posting on this website), and one thing stuck me about Tom Hardy as an actor. Well, a couple of things, but they come under the same banner.

    Tom hardy is like Daniel Craig, only improved.

    It's true, if you think about it. Apart from the obvious (white, around the same height, English born), they both have strong acting chops, able to display emotional subtlety and imposing physicality in the roles they play.

    But then I noticed, as I watched the film (great double performance BTW as both Kray twins) I realised that in all the ways that Craig is criticised, Hardy makes up for.

    1. The looks. Not to get cruel, but Tom Hardy is a step up from Craig in the looks department. At least in the way society sees it, the "traditionally handsome". Not saying that Hardy is a stunner, but you get what I mean...

    2. The humour. So I'm sitting there watching Legend, and it suddenly out of nowhere dawns on me how good Tom Hardy is at comedic delivery of lines. He is given some crazy things to say, and you never once think he is struggling to pull it off. As we all know, this is an area where Craig has problems.

    3. And this is the big one. Tom Hardy is effortlessly intimidating when he wants to be. My biggest problem with the Craig Bond is that for all the muscles, and human wrecking ball qualities, he never comes off that threatening. I know Bond is supposed to be charming, but I feel Connery and even Moore could lace their words with an undercurrent of menace, which I see startlingly few examples of in the Craig films. He is always saying "thank you", and I think in an attempt to show in greater detail Bond's emotional side, and sacrificed some of his edge. There should be a background element of the character that should, on occasion, unnerve even the audience. Tom Hardy would be perfect to reintroduce that back into the fold.

    I just feel like if they wanted not a dramatic reinvention, but a smooth transition into the next tenure, then Hardy is the way to go. He basically does everything Craig does, and a few things he does better, which the character has missed for a long time. It would be refreshing with being a completely different take.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    When I watched Legend, it was then I dismissed Hardy from the Bond image. That casino table scene is the witness as to why he is not suitable for Bond. He's looking like a thug with his shoulders reaching the back of his head trying to pick up a lady like the men in the higher plateau of leagues do (i.e. Bond). Sorry to say, but he's not an improved Daniel Craig. Craig by comparison is a distinguished gentleman.
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    IMHO the fact that Hardy is being discused shows both how few decent candidates are out there and how much time we have on our hands (as there is no news)

    Hardy would be a superb addition to the Bond series: I can imagine him as a great double O agent or as a smooth "bond like" enemy (as with Robert Shaw). Imagine him verbally sparring with Bond, trying to catch each other out with the undercurrent of threat and physicality that Hardy brings to the screen. We are way, way over due for a henchman who is more than just muscle.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    patb wrote: »
    IMHO the fact that Hardy is being discused shows both how few decent candidates are out there and how much time we have on our hands (as there is no news)

    Hardy would be a superb addition to the Bond series: I can imagine him as a great double O agent or as a smooth "bond like" enemy (as with Robert Shaw). Imagine him verbally sparring with Bond, trying to catch each other out with the undercurrent of threat and physicality that Hardy brings to the screen. We are way, way over due for a henchman who is more than just muscle.

    That's good too, but I think he would be the main Villain rather than the Henchman.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Hardy wouldn't be my first choice by any means but I wouldn't object to him. Like Craig he is a very good actor (I happen to think he is far superior and more versatile than Craig). He is almost chameleon like, and so if he got the job (which is unlikely in my view) I have no doubt he could do the role justice.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    I still think Tom Hiddleston would make a great Bond.
    [img] With Mark Strong as Blofeld...
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Definitely. Me, too.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Definitely. Me, too.
    +2.

    The shoe fits, as it does with Fassbender. Perhaps that's part of the problem though. It's a bit predictable. No doubt either of these two will reignite interest.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    If they’re in a fan cast, be sure that no producer will ever hire them in the predicted role.
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    This is the issue regarding being "behind the curve" whan looking for decent actors. The advertising industry have got their first. There are very 3 decent candidates in the advert for roles within Bond and IMHO, playing a role in a send up/tribute undermines their chances.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    patb wrote: »
    This is the issue regarding being "behind the curve" whan looking for decent actors. The advertising industry have got their first. There are very 3 decent candidates in the advert for roles within Bond and IMHO, playing a role in a send up/tribute undermines their chances.
    Precisely. I couldn't agree more.
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    sorry, "there first"
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    It's a weight of my mind to know that if an actor is mentioned in a fan cast They'll not
    Be hired by eon. I have spent many a sleepless night worrying about eon reading my posts. :-D
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    They've gone with the fan cast when the series was shaky (Brosnan to follow Dalton's LTK after the long break). Arguably Moore was a sort of predictable fit too and perhaps that's because they weren't too happy with OHMSS's gross stateside (I realize everyone sees it as a classic today) and needed someone who was familiar to audiences there (from the tv series).

    I find it telling that the articles we read even today are about the 'next' Bond. It suggests there is enthusiasm for it.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    OHMSS was one of the top ten movies of 1969, it's something of a Bond fan
    Urban myth that it did terrible business at the box office.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    OHMSS was one of the top ten movies of 1969, it's something of a Bond fan
    Urban myth that it did terrible business at the box office.
    I'm referring to its relative 'US' gross in comparison to DAF, LALD, TB, GF and YOLT where it did rather poorly, especially in relation to budget.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Fair enough.
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    bondjames wrote: »
    They've gone with the fan cast when the series was shaky (Brosnan to follow Dalton's LTK after the long break). Arguably Moore was a sort of predictable fit too and perhaps that's because they weren't too happy with OHMSS's gross stateside (I realize everyone sees it as a classic today) and needed someone who was familiar to audiences there (from the tv series).

    I find it telling that the articles we read even today are about the 'next' Bond. It suggests there is enthusiasm for it.

    I think Moore and Brosnan were more "general public" casts than fan casts. And now unlike then there is no presumptive heir or indeed anyone that makes unanimity.
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    Gay actor. I understand the concept of acting, but to me that would be an unnecessary distraction. Not unlike an American actor. And it goes back to making the character authentic on screen, not to pull him apart with differences in our real world mixed into the production.

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    Personally I've never found an actor's own sexuality or nationality be a distraction. I have no issues whatsoever with straight actors playing gay characters, or gay actors playing straight characters. The same with nationality, doesn't matter at all. When it comes to personality or anything else that can be acted actors don't need to be like their characters at all (as opposed to stuff that cannot be acted, such as race). Obviously they need to be able to act in a way that make them believable in all ways - personality, sexuality, nationality, etc. What is distracting is bad acting, but if the actor sounds right (accent), and acts right (so that they seem believable in the role)... well that's what acting is and it's what is needed. Authenticity in a role is reached by acting anyway, not by an actor actually being like the character.

    If Bond can be played by a non-Brit anyway, I don't see why not an American as well - as long as they get the accent, one hopes... I assume a gay actor wouldn't even be considered for something like Bond, though. But just saying that an actor's own sexuality or nationality - for Bond or other roles - makes no difference to me at all.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    To me it gives an authenticity to an established character like Bond that he's played by a British (or part of the Commonwealth, anyway) white heterosexual male. I'm American, but put an American in the role and I'd start listening more closely to how the British accent is delivered, for example. And it starts from there.
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    Anyone can name one single actor who can haveca convincing natural British accent?
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    Anyone can name one single actor who can haveca convincing natural British accent?

    A natural British actor.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Jason Statham :-D
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Scott Adkins. ;)
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Jason " Leave it out Blofeld, you slag !" ;-)
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    How about this guy? He's thrown his hat in the ring, and I and a few others think he would be a good choice, given his work on Ragnarok and Rush.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5355489/Chris-Hemsworth-confirms-hed-James-Bond-role.html
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    bondjames wrote: »
    How about this guy? He's thrown his hat in the ring, and I and a few others think he would be a good choice, given his work on Ragnarok and Rush.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5355489/Chris-Hemsworth-confirms-hed-James-Bond-role.html

    I’ve been touting him for a while now around here. 12 Strong shows how he would pull off the action. He’s grown as an actor, has the look and charm in the classic Bond tradition and is worth a screen test.

  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Yes @talos7, you and @DaltonCraig007 have been proponents, and I'm coming around to him. He could do it I think, and bring back that 'lightness' which has been missing for some time now. Not sure about the accent though.
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