Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • edited February 2018 Posts: 16,153
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    The right look for Thor perhaps, not Bond.
    Exactly. Similar to how Sylvester Stallone has the right look for Rambo and not not Bond.
    https://en.mediamass.net/people/sylvester-stallone/james-bond.html

    Yes!
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    One thing’s for sure, and to state the obvious, whoever is chosen to be the next Bond, there will be many who will not be happy with the choice.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    talos7 wrote: »
    One thing’s for sure, and to state the obvious, whoever is chosen to be the next Bond, there will be many who will not be happy with the choice.
    Agreed although I expect the most vociferous outcries to come from Craig's biggest proponents, because EON inevitably tends to change tack & approach with a recast.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    As long as we get someone like Connery, Moore or Brosnan, I'll be very happy. At least the Bond he'd portray.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    Hiddleston definitely can have a rough edge. He's not showing it yet, but he does have a death stare, which can be calculated as part of the rough edge template. One instant is the part in the first episode of The Night Manager when he looks at Hugh Laurie's folks with hatred and caution at the same time behind his reception post.

    Agreed.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    peter wrote: »
    Yes @Ludovico: he sells this one-on-one with a naturalness; yes he’s fierce, and yes, he’s trying to kill Bond in the most painful of ways as @bondjames said, BUT, the actor was always in control and made it look completely natural.

    Brosnan, the actor, looked as if he was going through what they trained for in rehearsals. He doesn’t flow with the combat. Not the way Bean does. Not by a long shot.

    What’s more disappointing is to see how generic Brosnan-Bond became in his fight sequences. The training that they were trying to convey in GE never made a comeback.

    The same disappointment could be said for DC to a degree; with Mendes came a more stylized way of fighting that took a step away from DC-reality; both fights with Patrice (although I loved them) weren’t as grounded as what we saw in his first two films (the less said about the casino fight, the better).

    This is why I didn’t love the Hinx battle as much as I was hoping. Even if Bond was on the losing end of this battle, I was hoping to see him lose while using his unarmed combat training (instead of just throwing punches and hopping up on a bar to swing a kick— seemed very Moore’ish in parts). I wasn’t necessarily in fear for Bond’s life as I was in the stairwell fight or the excellent Slate punch-up...

    And what’s this about a missing scar??

    Good post. Agreed.
  • edited February 2018 Posts: 3,333
    bondjames wrote: »
    patb wrote: »
    He has a lightness of touch that DC lacks....
    That he most certainly does. Unfortunately, when I've seen him try to be dramatic in the Thor series I'm somewhat uncomfortably reminded of Brosnan at his worst. This is again what I believe works against him. I don't think Broccoli will hire someone with this sort of limitation (imho) again.
    Seriously? Chris Hemsworth has never, and I do mean never, reminded me once of Brosnan. In fact, Brosnan couldn't be further from my thoughts when watching Hemsworth act. Personally, I think Broccoli will try to hire someone with high testosterone levels, than a prissy little prima donna who would look good sitting atop my Christmas tree, which sadly rules out Hiddleston.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    bondsum wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    patb wrote: »
    He has a lightness of touch that DC lacks....
    That he most certainly does. Unfortunately, when I've seen him try to be dramatic in the Thor series I'm somewhat uncomfortably reminded of Brosnan at his worst. This is again what I believe works against him. I don't think Broccoli will hire someone with this sort of limitation (imho) again.
    Seriously? Chris Hemsworth has never, and I do mean never, reminded me once of Brosnan. In fact, Brosnan couldn't be further from my thoughts when watching Hemsworth act.
    I'm afraid I disagree. As I've said earlier on this thread, I'm quite open to him getting a screentest at least, but I have seen no evidence that he can pull off the dramatic aspects to the degree Broccoli would probably want. Certainly in the first two Thor films I was reminded of Brosnan's tendency to overdo it in instances and that is something I'd rather not see from James Bond ever again.
    bondsum wrote: »
    Personally, I think Broccoli will try to hire someone with high testosterone levels, than a prissy little prima donna who would look good sitting atop my Christmas tree, which sadly rules out Hiddleston.
    While he may lack the butch look he doesn't have any issues on the acting front. I'd encourage you to keep an open mind about him. I've noticed a bit of negativity from you on account of his perceived physical weaknesses. That can be worked on with a few weeks in the gym.
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    Likewise @bondjames. And I encourage you to keep an open mind about Hemsworth, but I guess that's not going to happen either.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Actually @bondsum I am quite open to him and along with talos7 and DaltonCraig007 was one of the earlier members to suggest him as a possible Bond candidate. I'm just pointing out what I see as a potential weakness in his acting repertoire.

    I can't say I'd be disappointed if I was to read one day that he was suddenly cast in the role, even for B25. On the contrary, as it may prevent them from going down the waterworks route (like at the end of SF) again and that's fine with me.
  • edited February 2018 Posts: 3,333
    Sounds like you're covering all your bases there @bondjames. I either think an actor is suitable or I don't. In which case, I don't think Hiddleston is suitable 007 material for the simple reason that he's just not macho enough. You won't catch me skirting around the issue.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Oh, I see what you mean @bondsum. Well, I'm generally a person who weighs pros and cons and I don't have definitive opinions either way on too many things.

    I'd be very open to Hiddleston as Bond. Both he and Michael Fassbender are my top choices to bring back a little bit of that suave, classy savoir-faire and natural nonchalance which I think has been missing for too long. I think they can both provide a slightly different and yet complex interpretation of the role, combining cruelty with style. They are both quite versatile actors, which I think is also important as it gives the producers flexibility.

    I'd also be open to Hemsworth, particularly if they want to go back to a slightly larger than life approach. I admit that I think the producers will be a bit more limited in the type of films they can make with him, on account of what I've mentioned above.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Hiddleston would be great. Fassbender? Perfection.
  • edited February 2018 Posts: 3,333
    Nah, Hiddleston's too effeminate. Fassbender's a good choice, but he's too old now.

    Anyway, I've got to get ready now in my preparation for Wembley to watch a good man's game of footie.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    I’m fairly sure neither of them will be Bond.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I’m fairly sure neither of them will be Bond.
    Regrettably, I'm afraid you're right. The same goes for Hemsworth. At the rate we're going, they'll probably be wheeling Craig out in a wheelchair for B26 in 2022-2024 after another 2 years of indecision and 'rest time'.
  • edited February 2018 Posts: 17,753
    I’m fairly sure neither of them will be Bond.

    Most likely the case, yes. If it were down to a Hiddleston or a Hemsworth, I'd happily go with Hiddleston. Luke Evans would be my favourite for the role, but that's unlikely too, unfortunately.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    bondjames wrote: »
    I’m fairly sure neither of them will be Bond.
    Regrettably, I'm afraid you're right. The same goes for Hemsworth. At the rate we're going, they'll probably be wheeling Craig out in a wheelchair for B26 in 2022-2024 after another 2 years of indecision and 'rest time'.
    That is very sadly true. It's sadder even to know that's the route they are likely to take.
    I’m fairly sure neither of them will be Bond.
    Most likely the case, yes. If it were down to a Hiddleston or a Hemsworth, I'd happily go with Hiddleston. Luke Evans would be my favourite for the role, but that's unlikely to, unfortunately.
    Definitely. As far as I know, Fassbender has been a dream choice for the Bond fans for ten years. The moment his scene shined upon the screens of the theatres in Inglourious Basterds, he was a fan favourite by many. But, sadly, ten years is a long period of time.
  • edited February 2018 Posts: 17,753
    bondjames wrote: »
    I’m fairly sure neither of them will be Bond.
    Regrettably, I'm afraid you're right. The same goes for Hemsworth. At the rate we're going, they'll probably be wheeling Craig out in a wheelchair for B26 in 2022-2024 after another 2 years of indecision and 'rest time'.
    That is very sadly true. It's sadder even to know that's the route they are likely to take.
    I’m fairly sure neither of them will be Bond.
    Most likely the case, yes. If it were down to a Hiddleston or a Hemsworth, I'd happily go with Hiddleston. Luke Evans would be my favourite for the role, but that's unlikely to, unfortunately.
    Definitely. As far as I know, Fassbender has been a dream choice for the Bond fans for ten years. The moment his scene shined upon the screens of the theatres in Inglourious Basterds, he was a fan favourite by many. But, sadly, ten years is a long period of time.

    Fassbender would have been the clear-cut choice for many of us, had the opportunity presented itself - possibly up to, or even after SF. Now we can only hope to see him as a seasoned spy in a stand alone film franchise.

    Not throwing any names into the discussion here, but are there any other actors in the Aidan Turner/Kit Harington age group that are doing tv work these days, that could be a potential candidate?
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    bondsum wrote: »
    Sounds like you're covering all your bases there @bondjames. I either think an actor is suitable or I don't. In which case, I don't think Hiddleston is suitable 007 material for the simple reason that he's just not macho enough. You won't catch me skirting around the issue.

    I don't think Hemsworth is suitable for the simple reasons that he isn't an actor with much range IMO and he isn't British. I won't accept anyone who isn't British.

  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Not throwing any names into the discussion here, but are there any other actors in the Aidan Turner/Kit Harington age group that are doing tv work these days, that could be a potential candidate?
    I've been keeping an eye on Harry Lloyd. 34. He has a bit of a cruel rakishness to him. Great-great-great-grandson of Charles Dickens and Eton educated (like Hiddleston and Bond) so he has pedigree. He's a bit youngish looking but could mature nicely.

    I'm not sure however if he would pass @bondsum's requirements for testosterone levels.

    Here he is with one of the better Bond girls of the Craig era, and also with a potential Bond girl.

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  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Vaserys from GoT? Interesting choice but his turn in season one was so good as a whiny and pathetic b-i, I personally just can't see him as Bond ever.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    doubleoego wrote: »
    Vaserys from GoT? Interesting choice but his turn in season one was so good as a whiny and pathetic b-i, I personally just can't see him as Bond ever.
    I agree that he would be an offbeat choice, particularly based on his role in GoT. I just thought I'd throw his name out there because he is the right age and is under the radar. He has a certain raffishness which could be appealing, but a lot will depend on whether he could also project the requisite killer presence when required.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    I have to agree with bondsum's standards there. He doesn't pass for the requirements for testosterone levels. ;)
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    doubleoego wrote: »
    Vaserys from GoT? Interesting choice but his turn in season one was so good as a whiny and pathetic b-i, I personally just can't see him as Bond ever.

    I was very skeptical too regarding his look but I've seen other pictures of him and he does not look at all like Viserys.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    I have to agree with bondsum's standards there. He doesn't pass for the requirements for testosterone levels. ;)

    Agreed. He actually looks gay. Not a great choice for Bond. Luke Evans for example is in real life but is very macho on screen, so he could be a Bond. This actor may be straight but he, IMO, looks too camp for Bond.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    I have to agree with bondsum's standards there. He doesn't pass for the requirements for testosterone levels. ;)
    Agreed. He actually looks gay. Not a great choice for Bond. Luke Evans for example is in real life but is very macho on screen, so he could be a Bond. This actor may be straight but he, IMO, looks too camp for Bond.
    No arguments from me.
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    Need to rewatch The Great Train Robbery at some point. Luke Evans did a good performance, there.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Don't know if he's been mentioned yet, but how about Maximillian Irons? He starred in a movie adaptation of Crooked House last year.

    British, Tall, dark and handsome, 32 years of age. Jeremy Irons son.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Don't know if he's been mentioned yet, but how about Maximillian Irons? He starred in a movie adaptation of Crooked House last year.

    British, Tall, dark and handsome, 32 years of age. Jeremy Irons son.
    He was ok in that series. Hardly memorable imho, but yes he's the right age and could get on the radar at some point, if he's not already so.
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