Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Okay, I've seen Mission Impossible: Fallout and there is absolutely no chance that Henry Cavill can be Bond.

    He's basically a charisma-less piece of wood in that film. He's terrific in the action and fight scenes. But every dialogue scene made me cringe. For instance that scene by the Eiffel Tower with Angela Basset? Woah, that was some loud "acting". He also gets a big scene with Sean Harris which is woeful. He reminds me a lot of Brosnan.

    Cavill basically got all his acting tips from this video


    Agreed-- he's built like a tank and was great in the physical work, but nothing he did in this film, or has done since he auditioned for Bond 13 years ago, has shown he has the charisma or talent to drive a film. He'd be an empty tux...

    When he spoke, you could here the script come out. one. word. and. sometimes two. sometimes even three. words. at. a. time.
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    Richard Madden looks a bit boy band-ish to me. He does have a youthful face which is an advantage because you can play younger roles, I guess.

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    I thought he was quite good in Bastille Day. Whether or not Madden is Bond material... hard to say. I can't imagine him as a womanizing Bond but that type of Bond is probably gone and won't be coming back.

    I recall reading Henry Cavill never did any acting training. I was very surprised to read that. If that's true, well, it's no surprise some people don't rate his acting.

    Jennifer Lawrence has had a very successful film career, she never went to acting school. She won a Best Actress Oscar for Silver Linings Playbook (2012). I guess you can achieve great things in acting without any training (!) but hopefully the next Bond actor has some formal acting training. Who knows, Henry Cavill may have been a better actor had he studied for a year or so.





  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Now that you mention it, he looks like Timberlake in that photo above. Not exactly what I'm looking for going forward, but perhaps he will be a contender on account of his recent performance. I thought he was completely overshadowed by Elba in Bastille Day though.

    I'm a big fan of Lawrence. I completely wrote her off when she achieved fame in the Hunger Games series (before seeing the films) and presumed she was another one of these teenie idols. Then I saw her for the first time in American Hustle and realized she had something special. She's impressed me in everything I've seen her in, although I can't stand her personality in interviews and am not a fan of her politics.
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    I find Lawrence so annoying in interviews, that I can't imagine myself watching a film with her in the cast…
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I find Lawrence so annoying in interviews, that I can't imagine myself watching a film with her in the cast…
    @Torgeirtrap, have you not seen a Jlaw film? I can appreciate that she can be very annoying but she does give very good performances. As mentioned, I recommend American Hustle, and not just for her. There are some great performances in that film all round.
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    bondjames wrote: »
    I find Lawrence so annoying in interviews, that I can't imagine myself watching a film with her in the cast…
    @Torgeirtrap, have you not seen a Jlaw film? I can appreciate that she can be very annoying but she does give very good performances. As mentioned, I recommend American Hustle, and not just for her. There are some great performances in that film all round.

    I've watched her in X-Men: First Class (X-Men have never been my "thing" anyway), and I tried watching the first Hunger Games film, but only managed the first half hour or so before turning off.

    Should probably give American Hustle a chance, but wouldn't put money on the chances of getting through another "Lawrence flick"!
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    bondjames wrote: »
    I find Lawrence so annoying in interviews, that I can't imagine myself watching a film with her in the cast…
    @Torgeirtrap, have you not seen a Jlaw film? I can appreciate that she can be very annoying but she does give very good performances. As mentioned, I recommend American Hustle, and not just for her. There are some great performances in that film all round.

    I've watched her in X-Men: First Class (X-Men have never been my "thing" anyway), and I tried watching the first Hunger Games film, but only managed the first half hour or so before turning off.

    Should probably give American Hustle a chance, but wouldn't put money on the chances of getting through another "Lawrence flick"!
    I have to say I'm not a fan of X-Men or her character in it (I think she's miscast personally), and thought Hunger Games was alright (nothing special).

    I really liked her in Red Sparrow, Mother!, Silver Linings Playbook, Passengers and Joy, as well as the aforementioned American Hustle. These are all very different performances. I haven't seen Winter's Bone, but have read she was good in that too.
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    American Hustle is a great film with excellent performances all round.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    I feel the same way as @bondjames. She's a fan actress, but I can't tolerate her "wacky" shtick in interviews. I don't know of her politics, but I suspect that they don't line up with my own.
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    bondjames wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    I find Lawrence so annoying in interviews, that I can't imagine myself watching a film with her in the cast…
    @Torgeirtrap, have you not seen a Jlaw film? I can appreciate that she can be very annoying but she does give very good performances. As mentioned, I recommend American Hustle, and not just for her. There are some great performances in that film all round.

    I've watched her in X-Men: First Class (X-Men have never been my "thing" anyway), and I tried watching the first Hunger Games film, but only managed the first half hour or so before turning off.

    Should probably give American Hustle a chance, but wouldn't put money on the chances of getting through another "Lawrence flick"!
    I have to say I'm not a fan of X-Men or her character in it (I think she's miscast personally), and thought Hunger Games was alright (nothing special).

    I really liked her in Red Sparrow, Mother!, Silver Linings Playbook, Passengers and Joy, as well as the aforementioned American Hustle. These are all very different performances. I haven't seen Winter's Bone, but have read she was good in that too.

    I'll might try to give those films a watch if they're on TV (or similar). I fear it'll be a case of my opinion of the actor (or in this case, actress) affecting the viewing experience.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I feel the same way as @bondjames. She's a fan actress, but I can't tolerate her "wacky" shtick in interviews. I don't know of her politics, but I suspect that they don't line up with my own.
    She's a fan of LALD anyway (deleted scene from American Hustle below). The wackiness is on full display. Sorry for derailing the thread but I thought it was at least relevant to Bond.


    bondjames wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    I find Lawrence so annoying in interviews, that I can't imagine myself watching a film with her in the cast…
    @Torgeirtrap, have you not seen a Jlaw film? I can appreciate that she can be very annoying but she does give very good performances. As mentioned, I recommend American Hustle, and not just for her. There are some great performances in that film all round.

    I've watched her in X-Men: First Class (X-Men have never been my "thing" anyway), and I tried watching the first Hunger Games film, but only managed the first half hour or so before turning off.

    Should probably give American Hustle a chance, but wouldn't put money on the chances of getting through another "Lawrence flick"!
    I have to say I'm not a fan of X-Men or her character in it (I think she's miscast personally), and thought Hunger Games was alright (nothing special).

    I really liked her in Red Sparrow, Mother!, Silver Linings Playbook, Passengers and Joy, as well as the aforementioned American Hustle. These are all very different performances. I haven't seen Winter's Bone, but have read she was good in that too.

    I'll might try to give those films a watch if they're on TV (or similar). I fear it'll be a case of my opinion of the actor (or in this case, actress) affecting the viewing experience.
    I hope it doesn't. She's good enough that I think you might be able to forget about her real life shtick.
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    bondjames wrote: »
    I feel the same way as @bondjames. She's a fan actress, but I can't tolerate her "wacky" shtick in interviews. I don't know of her politics, but I suspect that they don't line up with my own.
    She's a fan of LALD anyway (deleted scene from American Hustle below). The wackiness is on full display. Sorry for derailing the thread but I thought it was at least relevant to Bond.


    bondjames wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    I find Lawrence so annoying in interviews, that I can't imagine myself watching a film with her in the cast…
    @Torgeirtrap, have you not seen a Jlaw film? I can appreciate that she can be very annoying but she does give very good performances. As mentioned, I recommend American Hustle, and not just for her. There are some great performances in that film all round.

    I've watched her in X-Men: First Class (X-Men have never been my "thing" anyway), and I tried watching the first Hunger Games film, but only managed the first half hour or so before turning off.

    Should probably give American Hustle a chance, but wouldn't put money on the chances of getting through another "Lawrence flick"!
    I have to say I'm not a fan of X-Men or her character in it (I think she's miscast personally), and thought Hunger Games was alright (nothing special).

    I really liked her in Red Sparrow, Mother!, Silver Linings Playbook, Passengers and Joy, as well as the aforementioned American Hustle. These are all very different performances. I haven't seen Winter's Bone, but have read she was good in that too.

    I'll might try to give those films a watch if they're on TV (or similar). I fear it'll be a case of my opinion of the actor (or in this case, actress) affecting the viewing experience.
    I hope it doesn't. She's good enough that I think you might be able to forget about her real life shtick.

    She has to be one hell of an actress in those films for me to forget her real life shtick! :))
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    fanbond123 wrote: »
    Richard Madden looks a bit boy band-ish to me. He does have a youthful face which is an advantage because you can play younger roles, I guess.

    16103333-high_res-bodyguard-2d61-e1535115646828.jpg?quality=80&strip=all&zoom=1&resize=644%2C410

    I thought he was quite good in Bastille Day. Whether or not Madden is Bond material... hard to say. I can't imagine him as a womanizing Bond but that type of Bond is probably gone and won't be coming back.

    I recall reading Henry Cavill never did any acting training. I was very surprised to read that. If that's true, well, it's no surprise some people don't rate his acting.

    Jennifer Lawrence has had a very successful film career, she never went to acting school. She won a Best Actress Oscar for Silver Linings Playbook (2012). I guess you can achieve great things in acting without any training (!) but hopefully the next Bond actor has some formal acting training. Who knows, Henry Cavill may have been a better actor had he studied for a year or so.





    Madden is pretty much a womaniser in real life. He wouldn't need to act much that part I'd say.
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    NicNac wrote: »
    Watching The Bodyguard this guy has the presence and charisma to pull it off. You can never really tell just looking at photos of random actors on this thread, you really need to see them in action.

    Watching Madden, I can see him as a very credible Bond when the part comes up for grabs in 2-3 years.
    I totally agree. I just watched the first 2 Bodyguard episodes as well and think Madden has the presence to make a very good Bond. He’s gone up my own personal list alongside Turner as a potential new 007.
  • RC7RC7
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    bondsum wrote: »
    NicNac wrote: »
    Watching The Bodyguard this guy has the presence and charisma to pull it off. You can never really tell just looking at photos of random actors on this thread, you really need to see them in action.

    Watching Madden, I can see him as a very credible Bond when the part comes up for grabs in 2-3 years.
    I totally agree. I just watched the first 2 Bodyguard episodes as well and think Madden has the presence to make a very good Bond. He’s gone up my own personal list alongside Turner as a potential new 007.

    Way better than Turner Imo.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    bondjames wrote: »
    I feel the same way as @bondjames. She's a fan actress, but I can't tolerate her "wacky" shtick in interviews. I don't know of her politics, but I suspect that they don't line up with my own.
    She's a fan of LALD anyway (deleted scene from American Hustle below). The wackiness is on full display. Sorry for derailing the thread but I thought it was at least relevant to Bond.


    I meant to say she's a fine actress (not fan actress), but you get my meaning. I don't know.. maybe her interview persona is an act, but I do know that I can't watch her in interviews. Comes off as forced.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    @MajorDSmythe I'm not really sure if it's an act but I agree about it seeming forced. She can be funny sometimes, but mostly she's just annoying.
    --

    This Madden love seems to be growing. I'll reserve judgment until I see the show myself. Still would prefer someone taller next time out.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I'm happy to see a lot of acceptance over the possibility of Madden; he was one of my choices a long while ago after seeing him in Game of Thrones. I'd be all for it.
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    bondjames wrote: »
    @MajorDSmythe I'm not really sure if it's an act but I agree about it seeming forced. She can be funny sometimes, but mostly she's just annoying.
    --

    This Madden love seems to be growing. I'll reserve judgment until I see the show myself. Still would prefer someone taller next time out.
    Madden does an excellent job. Just watch those scenes between Pippa Haywood and Madden as his superior and they have a symmetry reminiscent of the old 007 vs M dynamics. Sure, Madden isn’t playing Bond here, but he carries himself with professionalism and pride just like an ex-soldier would. Regional accent notwithstanding, this is the closest I’ve seen to a Bond audition in quite a while. He looks good, he moves extremely well, and has that simmering menace underneath that could explode at any minute. Again, I’m unconcerned about his natural Scottish accent because I know he can lose it, just as he did as Robb Stark in GoT, whereby I think he adopted a quasi-Yorkshire accent.

    Just out of curiosity @bondjames, is there any reason why you haven’t seen it yet?
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    bondsum wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    @MajorDSmythe I'm not really sure if it's an act but I agree about it seeming forced. She can be funny sometimes, but mostly she's just annoying.
    --

    This Madden love seems to be growing. I'll reserve judgment until I see the show myself. Still would prefer someone taller next time out.
    Madden does an excellent job. Just watch those scenes between Pippa Haywood and Madden as his superior and they have a symmetry reminiscent of the old 007 vs M dynamics. Sure, Madden isn’t playing Bond here, but he carries himself with professionalism and pride just like an ex-soldier would. Regional accent notwithstanding, this is the closest I’ve seen to a Bond audition in quite a while. He looks good, he moves extremely well, and has that simmering menace underneath that could explode at any minute. Again, I’m unconcerned about his natural Scottish accent because I know he can lose it, just as he did as Robb Stark in GoT.

    Just out of curiosity @bondjames, is there any reason why you haven’t seen it yet?
    @bondsum, I don't live in the UK anymore, so I'll only be able watch it once AMC gets it or once I can get a home media release. I had to wait for McMafia, The Night Manager and And Then There Were None similarly.

    I am looking forward to it, because the few trailers I've seen look rather intense. Much more visceral and interesting than McMafia, which I wasn't sold on (I'm glad Norton is out of the frame for now). I'm glad you and others seem to be enjoying it.
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    Going slightly off topic here, but is McMafia worth watching? Bodyguard is too recent to be on TV here, so will have to wait for that.
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    Oh, I thought you had Netflix or something similar @bondjames. When do you think you’ll eventually get around to seeing it?

    Yes, I too wasn’t sold on McMafia myself. I thought Norton came across as a hunky wet lettuce in an incredibly slow and turgid drama. (I’m hoping @RC7 wasn’t the author, otherwise I apologise to you, matey). Fortunately, the Bodyguard starts off on a knife-edge and goes from there. I think you’re going to like this drama when you see it.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    bondsum wrote: »
    Oh, I thought you had Netflix or something similar @bondjames. When do you think you’ll eventually get around to seeing it?
    I've been meaning to get Netflix for quite some time. If it's on North American Netflix then I'll definitely sign up but I doubt it. Will check this weekend.
    bondsum wrote: »
    Yes, I too wasn’t sold on McMafia myself. I thought Norton came across as a hunky wet lettuce in an incredibly slow and turgid drama. (I’m hoping @RC7 wasn’t the author, otherwise I apologise, matey).
    I couldn't agree more on Norton. He has never impressed me and I can't understand why he was even discussed as a possible candidate for the role. He's been awfully unmemorable in nearly everything I've seen him in.
    bondsum wrote: »
    Fortunately, the Bodyguard starts off on a knife-edge and goes from there. I think you’re going to like this drama when you see it.
    I'm sure, and I hope to be able to get to it sooner rather than later.
    Going slightly off topic here, but is McMafia worth watching? Bodyguard is too recent to be on TV here, so will have to wait for that.
    It's really not bad. It has a reasonable budget and some glamour and suspense. Just don't expect to be watching the next Bond actor in it.
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    bondjames wrote: »
    bondsum wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    @MajorDSmythe I'm not really sure if it's an act but I agree about it seeming forced. She can be funny sometimes, but mostly she's just annoying.
    --

    This Madden love seems to be growing. I'll reserve judgment until I see the show myself. Still would prefer someone taller next time out.
    Madden does an excellent job. Just watch those scenes between Pippa Haywood and Madden as his superior and they have a symmetry reminiscent of the old 007 vs M dynamics. Sure, Madden isn’t playing Bond here, but he carries himself with professionalism and pride just like an ex-soldier would. Regional accent notwithstanding, this is the closest I’ve seen to a Bond audition in quite a while. He looks good, he moves extremely well, and has that simmering menace underneath that could explode at any minute. Again, I’m unconcerned about his natural Scottish accent because I know he can lose it, just as he did as Robb Stark in GoT.

    Just out of curiosity @bondjames, is there any reason why you haven’t seen it yet?
    @bondsum, I don't live in the UK anymore, so I'll only be able watch it once AMC gets it or once I can get a home media release. I had to wait for McMafia, The Night Manager and And Then There Were None similarly.

    I am looking forward to it, because the few trailers I've seen look rather intense. Much more visceral and interesting than McMafia, which I wasn't sold on (I'm glad Norton is out of the frame for now). I'm glad you and others seem to be enjoying it.

    What happened to the home video? VHS player broken down? ;)
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Getafix wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    bondsum wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    @MajorDSmythe I'm not really sure if it's an act but I agree about it seeming forced. She can be funny sometimes, but mostly she's just annoying.
    --

    This Madden love seems to be growing. I'll reserve judgment until I see the show myself. Still would prefer someone taller next time out.
    Madden does an excellent job. Just watch those scenes between Pippa Haywood and Madden as his superior and they have a symmetry reminiscent of the old 007 vs M dynamics. Sure, Madden isn’t playing Bond here, but he carries himself with professionalism and pride just like an ex-soldier would. Regional accent notwithstanding, this is the closest I’ve seen to a Bond audition in quite a while. He looks good, he moves extremely well, and has that simmering menace underneath that could explode at any minute. Again, I’m unconcerned about his natural Scottish accent because I know he can lose it, just as he did as Robb Stark in GoT.

    Just out of curiosity @bondjames, is there any reason why you haven’t seen it yet?
    @bondsum, I don't live in the UK anymore, so I'll only be able watch it once AMC gets it or once I can get a home media release. I had to wait for McMafia, The Night Manager and And Then There Were None similarly.

    I am looking forward to it, because the few trailers I've seen look rather intense. Much more visceral and interesting than McMafia, which I wasn't sold on (I'm glad Norton is out of the frame for now). I'm glad you and others seem to be enjoying it.

    What happened to the home video? VHS player broken down? ;)
    Haha. I think we sorted that out last time around. This hopefully covers all the bases, including streaming and what not, but who knows, perhaps there is something out there not captured.
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
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    I will be catching the Bodyguard when I get back from my Holiday but Jed Mercurio's involvement excites me the most, all 3 series of Line Of Duty I've seen were superb.

    As for Norton, I personally liked McMafia but I take you haven't seen him in BBC's exemplary Happy Valley if you think he's a damp sqib in this you possibly need to go and see your oculist.

    His performance is full of menace I'd take him over Cavill in a heartbeat but each to his own.
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    I wonder if Jed Mercurio could write a decent Bond plot? He's a bit of a genius.
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    Shardlake wrote: »
    I will be catching the Bodyguard when I get back from my Holiday but Jed Mercurio's involvement excites me the most, all 3 series of Line Of Duty I've seen were superb.

    As for Norton, I personally liked McMafia but I take you haven't seen him in BBC's exemplary Happy Valley if you think he's a damp sqib in this you possibly need to go and see your oculist.

    His performance is full of menace I'd take him over Cavill in a heartbeat but each to his own.
    No, I must admit I haven’t been tempted to watch Happy Valley. Personally, I just can’t buy into the majority of UK police procedural shows, especially knowing that in the real world the criminal would most likely receive a light sentence and be out within a few years, either due to overcrowded prisons or having been rehabilitated. Either way, Norton just doesn’t do anything for me in all the other dramas I’ve given him a chance to impress me in. Though it might be interesting to see him as a rapist in Happy Valley.
    Getafix wrote: »
    I wonder if Jed Mercurio could write a decent Bond plot? He's a bit of a genius.
    Funnily enough, I was thinking the very same thing.
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Going slightly off topic here, but is McMafia worth watching? Bodyguard is too recent to be on TV here, so will have to wait for that.
    It's really not bad. It has a reasonable budget and some glamour and suspense. Just don't expect to be watching the next Bond actor in it.

    That I know I won't! I'll add it to my "to watch" list, then. :-)
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    I'm watching The Bodyguard and I'm warming up to the idea of Richard Madden as Bond. It does look like he's having a Bond audition. He's got the right physique, he has enough charisma to play the King in the North, in his personal life he's been a womaniser so he's got that one covered...
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