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  • GetafixGetafix
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    hmm. Nolan lacks Spielberg's wit and ability to manipulate our emotions. that's my feeling. I see Nolan as much more in the Kubrick tradition. more cerebral, super stylised and the films are 'colder'.

    I struggle to think of an heir to Spielberg. he's been massively influential but few seem to have his ability.
  • boldfingerboldfinger
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    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    boldfinger wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    I don't like Hardy one bit. He mumbles too much or puts on hard to understand voices in the majority of the films I've seen him in.
    Yep. And besides, he plays the same character every time just like Jason Statham. There’s no chance in hell we’ll see an absolutely different persona from him on the screen that accommodates the needs of portraying Bond.

    Not to mention he's a little too cockney for Bond.

    Good job he's an actor then. He's also not enough of a secret agent for Bond, but he can pretend. That's what actors do.
    I knew someone would bring this exact sentiment up. And no, some actors just don’t get out of their own image. Hardy is that type of an actor. Always playing himself.
    Bronson, Warrior, Tinker Tailer Soldier Spy, Inception, always the same? Hmm.
    Characters that are entirely in his range. Even the upcoming Venom (from what they look like in the trailers). Bond isn't.
    That depends a lot on the approach to the character. Craig´s Bond is radically different from Connery or Moore´s Bond. It depends on how well they fit the screen character to the actor, and on the marketing.

  • GetafixGetafix
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    I have to admit I have found it very difficult to understand what Hardy says in nearly all his films. But he's grown on me recently.

    However, there's the small matter of his age. He's born in 1977 so like Elba, I think he can be ruled out on that alone
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Getafix wrote: »
    hmm. Nolan lacks Spielberg's wit and ability to manipulate our emotions. that's my feeling. I see Nolan as much more in the Kubrick tradition. more cerebral, super stylised and the films are 'colder'.

    I struggle to think of an heir to Spielberg. he's been massively influential but few seem to have his ability.

    Maybe Nolan is mix between the two. I understand what you mean about the coldness, and cerebral nature of his movies, but at the same time there is much banter in Inception, as well as a emotional core for the main character. I think if Nolan got Bond he would treat it as an opportunity to let his hair down (figuratively speaking) and show a side we haven't seen before. Not to say he wouldn't carry forth many of his conventions also.
  • boldfingerboldfinger
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    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    so you'd be up for a Nolan Bond movie?

    I just feel that as with Speilberg it would be a real shame if we never got a Nolan Bond film.

    Absolutely, I'd be up for a Nolan trilogy! With Tom Hardy if necessary. Speaking of Speilberg, Nolan is basically the Spielberg of the new generation. I could see him making Bond movies as good as any of the Indiana Jones films.
    Excuse me? Spielberg is a massive talent who´s had ups and downs, but has an amazing track record. His films either grab the audience or they don´t, but he never once came across as over-ambitioned as Nolan did numerous times. I find even the comparisons of Nolan with Kubrick slightly preposterous, but any comparison with Spielberg is totally out of reach. And I´m by far no Spielberg fanboy, let alone Kubrick.

  • GetafixGetafix
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    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    hmm. Nolan lacks Spielberg's wit and ability to manipulate our emotions. that's my feeling. I see Nolan as much more in the Kubrick tradition. more cerebral, super stylised and the films are 'colder'.

    I struggle to think of an heir to Spielberg. he's been massively influential but few seem to have his ability.

    Maybe Nolan is mix between the two. I understand what you mean about the coldness, and cerebral nature of his movies, but at the same time there is much banter in Inception, as well as a emotional core for the main character. I think if Nolan got Bond he would treat it as an opportunity to let his hair down (figuratively speaking) and show a side we haven't seen before. Not to say he wouldn't carry forth many of his conventions also.

    It's be nice to think he'd loosen up a bit and inject some wit. either way I'd be happy to see him have a crack at it.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    boldfinger wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    so you'd be up for a Nolan Bond movie?

    I just feel that as with Speilberg it would be a real shame if we never got a Nolan Bond film.

    Absolutely, I'd be up for a Nolan trilogy! With Tom Hardy if necessary. Speaking of Speilberg, Nolan is basically the Spielberg of the new generation. I could see him making Bond movies as good as any of the Indiana Jones films.
    Excuse me? Spielberg is a massive talent who´s had ups and downs, but has an amazing track record. His films either grab the audience or they don´t, but he never once came across as over-ambitioned as Nolan did numerous times. I find even the comparisons of Nolan with Kubrick slightly preposterous, but any comparison with Spielberg is totally out of reach. And I´m by far no Spielberg fanboy, let alone Kubrick.

    So you're not a fan of any of the big three then?

    Alright, well to me, Nolan's films pretty much never fail to capture an audience, and that is where I see the similarity with Speilberg. Both have a way of navigating the cinematic language which connects with the masses, which is a tricky art to master. Kubrick's films aren't what I'd call popcorn flicks.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    hmm. Nolan lacks Spielberg's wit and ability to manipulate our emotions. that's my feeling. I see Nolan as much more in the Kubrick tradition. more cerebral, super stylised and the films are 'colder'.

    I struggle to think of an heir to Spielberg. he's been massively influential but few seem to have his ability.

    Maybe Nolan is mix between the two. I understand what you mean about the coldness, and cerebral nature of his movies, but at the same time there is much banter in Inception, as well as a emotional core for the main character. I think if Nolan got Bond he would treat it as an opportunity to let his hair down (figuratively speaking) and show a side we haven't seen before. Not to say he wouldn't carry forth many of his conventions also.
    I think he is indeed a mix of the two. He knows how to craft a film that resonates with the masses like Spielberg, but like Kubrick can also convey deeper meaning in his films while also bringing a certain visual stamp. I think he's one of the best working today and is at his peak. I look forward with interest to his next project.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Yes, ideally it would be good if he could get around to Bond while still in his prime. I think he roughly the same age as Spielberg was when he made Jurassic Park.
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
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    I can't believe what I'm reading! Comparing Nolan to Spielberg or Kubrick?!
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    fanbond123 wrote: »
    Going into cynical mode, I'd posit Richard Madden is merely the flavour of the day. Tom Hiddleston got the 'next Bond' treatment when The Night Manager was broadcast. That was a BBC political thriller and now we have another BBC political thriller and another actor gets the 'next Bond' treatment.

    Nobody mentions Tom Hiddleston anymore. According to IMDB, he has no films in pre-production? Perhaps he's given up acting! Maybe he'll do some stage acting. A bit of Shakespeare or pantomime. ;)






    Madden is certainly the flavour of the month, but right now I'd rather have this flavour than the other ones.
  • bondsumbondsum
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    fanbond123 wrote: »
    Going into cynical mode, I'd posit Richard Madden is merely the flavour of the day. Tom Hiddleston got the 'next Bond' treatment when The Night Manager was broadcast. That was a BBC political thriller and now we have another BBC political thriller and another actor gets the 'next Bond' treatment.

    Nobody mentions Tom Hiddleston anymore. According to IMDB, he has no films in pre-production? Perhaps he's given up acting! Maybe he'll do some stage acting. A bit of Shakespeare or pantomime. ;)
    With good reason, Hiddles made a complete arse of himself with Taylor Swift on the successful heels of The Night Manager. Also, Hiddles is a wealthy chap and can afford to take some timeout from being in the public eye. Maybe even reinvent himself?

    Madden certainly gives a more convincing Bondian performance in The Bodyguard than I saw from Hiddles in his BBC espionage audition. If you’re going to be the current “flavour of the month” then perhaps it’s better to do it after someone previously was, no? Just out of curiosity @fanbond123, have you watched any episodes of The Bodyguard?
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Speaking of arses, apparently Madden is about to reveal his in an upcoming episode of The Bodyguard., similar to how Hiddleston did on The Night Manager. The question now is whether this will be enough to secure the role of Bond post-Craig. Hopefully for him, his backside meets with the nation's approval.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6122451/Bodyguard-star-Richard-Madden-disrobe-BBC-tonight.html
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Jim Bruer in character as Joe Pesci comes to mind when he calls that aspect of Mel Gibson irritating. :))
  • fanbond123fanbond123
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    Richard Madden gave an interview to the Sunday Times and claimed he was paid "**** all" for appearing in Game of Thrones. He doesn't appear to have much regard for some people in the industry. :P

    Clearly he'd want to be handsomely paid for his first Bond adventure. More reason for Eon to find someone less well-known, perhaps. Joe Unknown wanted for Bond 26. Will do role for minimum wage. ;)
    Just out of curiosity @fanbond123, have you watched any episodes of The Bodyguard?

    No, Bondsum. Haven't seen the show.
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Speaking of arses, apparently Madden is about to reveal his in an upcoming episode of The Bodyguard., similar to how Hiddleston did on The Night Manager. The question now is whether this will be enough to secure the role of Bond post-Craig. Hopefully for him, his backside meets with the nation's approval.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6122451/Bodyguard-star-Richard-Madden-disrobe-BBC-tonight.html

    He was already naked in GofT. Alongside his Co star Oona Chaplin. Didn't notice Madden much.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Speaking of arses, apparently Madden is about to reveal his in an upcoming episode of The Bodyguard., similar to how Hiddleston did on The Night Manager. The question now is whether this will be enough to secure the role of Bond post-Craig. Hopefully for him, his backside meets with the nation's approval.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6122451/Bodyguard-star-Richard-Madden-disrobe-BBC-tonight.html

    He was already naked in GofT. Alongside his Co star Oona Chaplin. Didn't notice Madden much.
    I don't blame you. She was in QoS too, wasn't she (the waitress who Medrano takes a liking to)?

    In some of these still photos in that link above Madden just looks like another runt having his 15 minutes. From the comments here, he is apparently better in the show. Let's hope so.
    fanbond123 wrote: »
    Richard Madden gave an interview to the Sunday Times and claimed he was paid "**** all" for appearing in Game of Thrones. He doesn't appear to have much regard for some people in the industry.
    He's getting his training in early in preparation for when he's Bond. Whining is the in thing these days, it seems.
  • GetafixGetafix
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    Chaplin was in Taboo as well with Hardy. She was good .
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Top three choices

    1. Aidan Turner
    2. Henry Cavill
    3. Tom Hardy
  • GetafixGetafix
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    double post
  • GetafixGetafix
    edited September 2018 Posts: 11,425
    I've never seen Turner in anything, but both he and Cavill have time on their side (just about) as they were born in 83. Having said that, if B25 comes out in 2019 and then B26 in 2021 at the earliest (and let's face it, the chances of that are close to zero), they'll both be pushing 40. I'm not sure in this day and age EON will want to cast an almost 40 year old.

    Hardy is already 40/41 and although no one seems to mention it on here, that almost certainly means he's already too old. Yesterday's nearly man.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Getafix wrote: »
    Hardy is already 40/41 and although no one seems to mention it on here, that almost certainly means he's already too old. Yesterday's nearly man.

    I don't think his age is a problem, if he is only around for a trilogy. Let's say Bond 26 comes in 2022.

    Bond 26 - 2022 - 44 years old

    Bond 27 - 2025 - 47 years old

    Bond 28 - 2028 - 50 years old

    If Craig does Bond 25 then we would have:

    1 Bond for 1 film
    1 Bond for 2 films

    1 Bond for 4 films
    1 Bond for 5 films
    1 Bond for 6 films
    1 Bond for 7 films

    A trilogy must be next! ;)
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    These people can't seem to even get one film out in time. Surely a trilogy is a bit ambitious for them to contemplate.

    Hardy is Venom, no? I think that may have put paid to his chances of getting Bond, particularly if it becomes a franchise.
  • GetafixGetafix
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    Yeah I think Hardy's only chance was if Craig stepped down after SP and EON brought in Nolan to direct B25.

    That didn't happen so I'd say his chances are currently close to zero.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    I think it's necessary post-Craig that who ever is in charge gets organised. They don't need an intricate plan, just a general roadmap of where they want Bond to go. No more 4+ years of mulling it over mid-tenure.
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
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    I guarantee while EON is in charge you will not see a Hardy level fame actor regardless of age in the role.

    If a big studio takes over and that is a big if then that might change but while EON is in charge no chance.

    Sorry fellas I know how much this narks you and doesn't fit into this universe you've constructed for yourself but this is life I'm afraid.

    Maybe some of you can club together and buy the series and make your wet dreams all come true, stranger things have happened.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Mad Max looks like it is a dead franchise. Venom could be a flop, Sony doesn't exactly have the best record with superhero movies. Tom Hardy just seems a lot more Bondian than Craig.
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
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    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    Mad Max looks like it is a dead franchise. Venom could be a flop, Sony doesn't exactly have the best record with superhero movies. Tom Hardy just seems a lot more Bondian than Craig.

    In your opinion, losing faith in Turner chances now so is this your new horse you are backing?

    Why do you think EON will change their tact on this?

    Granted Moore was TV star and Brosnan as well but this is it, everyone else was a relative nobody before, while Barbra is in charge it's not going to happen.

    Althought I know you are praying for that situation to change.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Shardlake wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    Mad Max looks like it is a dead franchise. Venom could be a flop, Sony doesn't exactly have the best record with superhero movies. Tom Hardy just seems a lot more Bondian than Craig.

    In your opinion, losing faith in Turner chances now so is this your new horse you are backing?

    Why do you think EON will change their tact on this?

    Granted Moore was TV star and Brosnan as well but this is it, everyone else was a relative nobody before, while Barbra is in charge it's not going to happen.

    Althought I know you are praying for that situation to change.

    On the previous page I stated that Turner was my favourite, and Hardy was my third favourite. However it seems like if Christopher Nolan directs Bond 26 then Hardy is more likely, as Nolan likes his own group of regulars.
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
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    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    Shardlake wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    Mad Max looks like it is a dead franchise. Venom could be a flop, Sony doesn't exactly have the best record with superhero movies. Tom Hardy just seems a lot more Bondian than Craig.

    In your opinion, losing faith in Turner chances now so is this your new horse you are backing?

    Why do you think EON will change their tact on this?

    Granted Moore was TV star and Brosnan as well but this is it, everyone else was a relative nobody before, while Barbra is in charge it's not going to happen.

    Althought I know you are praying for that situation to change.

    On the previous page I stated that Turner was my favourite, and Hardy was my third favourite. However it seems like if Christopher Nolan directs Bond 26 then Hardy is more likely, as Nolan likes his own group of regulars.

    Nolan would only get Hardy without EON I don't think Barbara would touch him with a barge pole and I quite like Hardy but I don't see Bond.
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