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  • barryt007barryt007
    Posts: 19,339
    TBH once I saw him in Layer Cake I was sold.
    That was a perfect Bond audition film.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 41,011
    I was happy about Craig playing Bond as soon as he was announced - after the likes of Layer Cake and Munich, I knew he was going to be great.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited September 2018 Posts: 23,883
    Craig had a certain ruggedness to him when he was younger which made him suitable. With him, I'd say it was his natural quiet brooding intensity and his acting skills which made him particularly appropriate given the film maker's change of direction in 2006.

    Heughan has been mentioned before. I don't have an opinion either way at the moment, but I don't think he's helped his chances by humiliating himself in that Mila Kunis thing earlier this summer. It was a bit of a shot at Bond in a way, with the title and all. So I can't see him even being under consideration quite frankly.
  • JakeDisseltJakeDisselt
    Posts: 64
    bondjames wrote: »
    Craig had a certain ruggedness to him when he was younger which made him suitable. With him, I'd say it was his natural quiet brooding intensity and his acting skills which made him particularly appropriate given the film maker's change of direction in 2006.

    Heughan has been mentioned before. I don't have an opinion either way at the moment, but I don't think he's helped his chances by humiliating himself in that Mila Kunis thing earlier this summer. It was a bit of a shot at Bond in a way, with the title and all. So I can't see him even being under consideration quite frankly.
    bondjames wrote: »
    Craig had a certain ruggedness to him when he was younger which made him suitable. With him, I'd say it was his natural quiet brooding intensity and his acting skills which made him particularly appropriate given the film maker's change of direction in 2006.

    Heughan has been mentioned before. I don't have an opinion either way at the moment, but I don't think he's helped his chances by humiliating himself in that Mila Kunis thing earlier this summer. It was a bit of a shot at Bond in a way, with the title and all. So I can't see him even being under consideration quite frankly.
    bondjames wrote: »
    Craig had a certain ruggedness to him when he was younger which made him suitable. With him, I'd say it was his natural quiet brooding intensity and his acting skills which made him particularly appropriate given the film maker's change of direction in 2006.

    Heughan has been mentioned before. I don't have an opinion either way at the moment, but I don't think he's helped his chances by humiliating himself in that Mila Kunis thing earlier this summer. It was a bit of a shot at Bond in a way, with the title and all. So I can't see him even being under consideration quite frankly.

    When Craig was first announced as Bond I’d just seen Road to Perdition and there’s this scene that sticks in my mind where Daniel Craig’s character is looming over this funeral party grinning awkwardly and this kid asks him ‘why are you always smiling?’ And he says ‘Cause it’s all so fuckin’ hysterical.’ That always sticks in my mind when I think of Daniel Craig

  • JakeDisseltJakeDisselt
    Posts: 64
    I mean I agree with most of you, like I said in my comment I’d rather see an original badass female Double O than an actual female James Bond. But honestly still it’s not a matter of my opinion I am telling you, MGM, EON, the Brocolli kids will never cast an actor like Hardy or Cavill in the role
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    JakeDisselt wrote: »
    I mean I agree with most of you, like I said in my comment I’d rather see an original badass female Double O than an actual female James Bond. But honestly still it’s not a matter of my opinion I am telling you, MGM, EON, the Brocolli kids will never cast an actor like Hardy or Cavill in the role
    Aren't these two very different though. Hardy is a bit squat and closer to Craig in appearance imho. Untraditional. Cavill on the other hand has a more traditional Bondian look, even if his acting skills come up a bit short.

    What do you see as the common factor among these two, because I see limited similarities? I think those who advocate for one don't necessarily like the other.
  • JakeDisseltJakeDisselt
    Posts: 64
    bondjames wrote: »
    JakeDisselt wrote: »
    I mean I agree with most of you, like I said in my comment I’d rather see an original badass female Double O than an actual female James Bond. But honestly still it’s not a matter of my opinion I am telling you, MGM, EON, the Brocolli kids will never cast an actor like Hardy or Cavill in the role
    Aren't these two very different though. Hardy is a bit squat and closer to Craig in appearance imho. Untraditional. Cavill on the other hand has a more traditional Bondian look, even if his acting skills come up a bit short.

    What do you see as the common factor among these two, because I see limited similarities? I think those who advocate for one don't necessarily like the other.

    They are different, agreed. And please don't get me wrong, it's not that I don't think that they would make good James Bonds, I actually think they would be decent. I only highly, highly doubt that they will be cast as they have both been front and center in really big Hollywood film franchises already and I highly doubt that EON Productions would cast an actor who has already made a name for themselves in something as Bond. None of the previous actors were really in anything all that major before they were cast. The only ones I can think of were Roger Moore who was in The Saint, which was similar ish to James Bond but also, in my opinion different enough that casting him as Bond wouldn't really be a lack of progress for Roger's career. Dalton had made a name for himself as a Shakespearean actor, which is, granted, a pretty big deal in terms of careers, he was in some big films like 'Lion in Winter' with Katherine friggen Hepburn-but again, playing Bond would have still been a huge aesthetic change for him. And Brosnan was in Remington Steele which was similar enough to Bond, but he already had ties with the Broccolis going back to his wife who was in For Your Eyes Only so he had an advantage over anyone else going for the role. I'm certain they cast Daniel Craig because at the time, while he was in a couple big films he wasn't in anything where he was in the anchor of the movie. He played that badass assassin priest in Elizabeth, Conner Rooney (I think was his name) in Road to Perdition, Steve in Munich, that's about it. Prior to Casino Royale if someone said Daniel Craig to you, you'd still probably say, 'who?'

    1). Tom Hardy has already established himself as a really big cinematic actor he was Bane, he's Venom, Dunkirk, Inception, an Oscar nod for Revenant, he's in Taboo, he's in Peaky Blinders, there's too many things out there that come to mind when you think of Tom Hardy.

    2). Henry Cavill is Supes, he was in The Man from UNCLE which is already pretty similar to Bond. He may want to do it but I don't suspect that EON has ever even looked at him prior to his being cast as Supes.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Actually Cavill was the runner-up to Craig in 2006.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    JakeDisselt wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    JakeDisselt wrote: »
    I mean I agree with most of you, like I said in my comment I’d rather see an original badass female Double O than an actual female James Bond. But honestly still it’s not a matter of my opinion I am telling you, MGM, EON, the Brocolli kids will never cast an actor like Hardy or Cavill in the role
    Aren't these two very different though. Hardy is a bit squat and closer to Craig in appearance imho. Untraditional. Cavill on the other hand has a more traditional Bondian look, even if his acting skills come up a bit short.

    What do you see as the common factor among these two, because I see limited similarities? I think those who advocate for one don't necessarily like the other.

    They are different, agreed. And please don't get me wrong, it's not that I don't think that they would make good James Bonds, I actually think they would be decent. I only highly, highly doubt that they will be cast as they have both been front and center in really big Hollywood film franchises already and I highly doubt that EON Productions would cast an actor who has already made a name for themselves in something as Bond. None of the previous actors were really in anything all that major before they were cast. The only ones I can think of were Roger Moore who was in The Saint, which was similar ish to James Bond but also, in my opinion different enough that casting him as Bond wouldn't really be a lack of progress for Roger's career. Dalton had made a name for himself as a Shakespearean actor, which is, granted, a pretty big deal in terms of careers, he was in some big films like 'Lion in Winter' with Katherine friggen Hepburn-but again, playing Bond would have still been a huge aesthetic change for him. And Brosnan was in Remington Steele which was similar enough to Bond, but he already had ties with the Broccolis going back to his wife who was in For Your Eyes Only so he had an advantage over anyone else going for the role. I'm certain they cast Daniel Craig because at the time, while he was in a couple big films he wasn't in anything where he was in the anchor of the movie. He played that badass assassin priest in Elizabeth, Conner Rooney (I think was his name) in Road to Perdition, Steve in Munich, that's about it. Prior to Casino Royale if someone said Daniel Craig to you, you'd still probably say, 'who?'

    1). Tom Hardy has already established himself as a really big cinematic actor he was Bane, he's Venom, Dunkirk, Inception, an Oscar nod for Revenant, he's in Taboo, he's in Peaky Blinders, there's too many things out there that come to mind when you think of Tom Hardy.

    2). Henry Cavill is Supes, he was in The Man from UNCLE which is already pretty similar to Bond. He may want to do it but I don't suspect that EON has ever even looked at him prior to his being cast as Supes.
    Thanks for clarifying. Yes. I tend to agree with you for these two in particular. They are extremely high profile and have been for quite some time. I don't see either of them getting it either, although they make for interesting discussion about possibilities and directions (e.g. another rugged short chap with acting prowess or a return to classic looks with perhaps a more lightweight ability).
  • JakeDisseltJakeDisselt
    Posts: 64
    talos7 wrote: »
    Actually Cavill was the runner-up to Craig in 2006.

    In 2006, yeah. Not since being cast as Supes though.
  • JakeDisseltJakeDisselt
    Posts: 64
    bondjames wrote: »
    JakeDisselt wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    JakeDisselt wrote: »
    I mean I agree with most of you, like I said in my comment I’d rather see an original badass female Double O than an actual female James Bond. But honestly still it’s not a matter of my opinion I am telling you, MGM, EON, the Brocolli kids will never cast an actor like Hardy or Cavill in the role
    Aren't these two very different though. Hardy is a bit squat and closer to Craig in appearance imho. Untraditional. Cavill on the other hand has a more traditional Bondian look, even if his acting skills come up a bit short.

    What do you see as the common factor among these two, because I see limited similarities? I think those who advocate for one don't necessarily like the other.

    They are different, agreed. And please don't get me wrong, it's not that I don't think that they would make good James Bonds, I actually think they would be decent. I only highly, highly doubt that they will be cast as they have both been front and center in really big Hollywood film franchises already and I highly doubt that EON Productions would cast an actor who has already made a name for themselves in something as Bond. None of the previous actors were really in anything all that major before they were cast. The only ones I can think of were Roger Moore who was in The Saint, which was similar ish to James Bond but also, in my opinion different enough that casting him as Bond wouldn't really be a lack of progress for Roger's career. Dalton had made a name for himself as a Shakespearean actor, which is, granted, a pretty big deal in terms of careers, he was in some big films like 'Lion in Winter' with Katherine friggen Hepburn-but again, playing Bond would have still been a huge aesthetic change for him. And Brosnan was in Remington Steele which was similar enough to Bond, but he already had ties with the Broccolis going back to his wife who was in For Your Eyes Only so he had an advantage over anyone else going for the role. I'm certain they cast Daniel Craig because at the time, while he was in a couple big films he wasn't in anything where he was in the anchor of the movie. He played that badass assassin priest in Elizabeth, Conner Rooney (I think was his name) in Road to Perdition, Steve in Munich, that's about it. Prior to Casino Royale if someone said Daniel Craig to you, you'd still probably say, 'who?'

    1). Tom Hardy has already established himself as a really big cinematic actor he was Bane, he's Venom, Dunkirk, Inception, an Oscar nod for Revenant, he's in Taboo, he's in Peaky Blinders, there's too many things out there that come to mind when you think of Tom Hardy.

    2). Henry Cavill is Supes, he was in The Man from UNCLE which is already pretty similar to Bond. He may want to do it but I don't suspect that EON has ever even looked at him prior to his being cast as Supes.
    Thanks for clarifying. Yes. I tend to agree with you for these two in particular. They are extremely high profile and have been for quite some time. I don't see either of them getting it either, although they make for interesting discussion about possibilities and directions (e.g. another rugged short chap with acting prowess or a return to classic looks with perhaps a more lightweight ability).

    And honestly I don't mean to sound like I'm beating the crap out of them it is a shame because they would both be great for their own reasons.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,255
    JakeDisselt wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Actually Cavill was the runner-up to Craig in 2006.

    In 2006, yeah. Not since being cast as Supes though.

    Ah, the word “ever” threw me off.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    JakeDisselt wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    JakeDisselt wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    JakeDisselt wrote: »
    I mean I agree with most of you, like I said in my comment I’d rather see an original badass female Double O than an actual female James Bond. But honestly still it’s not a matter of my opinion I am telling you, MGM, EON, the Brocolli kids will never cast an actor like Hardy or Cavill in the role
    Aren't these two very different though. Hardy is a bit squat and closer to Craig in appearance imho. Untraditional. Cavill on the other hand has a more traditional Bondian look, even if his acting skills come up a bit short.

    What do you see as the common factor among these two, because I see limited similarities? I think those who advocate for one don't necessarily like the other.

    They are different, agreed. And please don't get me wrong, it's not that I don't think that they would make good James Bonds, I actually think they would be decent. I only highly, highly doubt that they will be cast as they have both been front and center in really big Hollywood film franchises already and I highly doubt that EON Productions would cast an actor who has already made a name for themselves in something as Bond. None of the previous actors were really in anything all that major before they were cast. The only ones I can think of were Roger Moore who was in The Saint, which was similar ish to James Bond but also, in my opinion different enough that casting him as Bond wouldn't really be a lack of progress for Roger's career. Dalton had made a name for himself as a Shakespearean actor, which is, granted, a pretty big deal in terms of careers, he was in some big films like 'Lion in Winter' with Katherine friggen Hepburn-but again, playing Bond would have still been a huge aesthetic change for him. And Brosnan was in Remington Steele which was similar enough to Bond, but he already had ties with the Broccolis going back to his wife who was in For Your Eyes Only so he had an advantage over anyone else going for the role. I'm certain they cast Daniel Craig because at the time, while he was in a couple big films he wasn't in anything where he was in the anchor of the movie. He played that badass assassin priest in Elizabeth, Conner Rooney (I think was his name) in Road to Perdition, Steve in Munich, that's about it. Prior to Casino Royale if someone said Daniel Craig to you, you'd still probably say, 'who?'

    1). Tom Hardy has already established himself as a really big cinematic actor he was Bane, he's Venom, Dunkirk, Inception, an Oscar nod for Revenant, he's in Taboo, he's in Peaky Blinders, there's too many things out there that come to mind when you think of Tom Hardy.

    2). Henry Cavill is Supes, he was in The Man from UNCLE which is already pretty similar to Bond. He may want to do it but I don't suspect that EON has ever even looked at him prior to his being cast as Supes.
    Thanks for clarifying. Yes. I tend to agree with you for these two in particular. They are extremely high profile and have been for quite some time. I don't see either of them getting it either, although they make for interesting discussion about possibilities and directions (e.g. another rugged short chap with acting prowess or a return to classic looks with perhaps a more lightweight ability).

    And honestly I don't mean to sound like I'm beating the crap out of them it is a shame because they would both be great for their own reasons.
    No, I get it and believe me you're not being harsh at all. Some members can get quite brutal in their critique of contenders and extremely fawning over their personal favourites, including the fellow who's got the job at present.
  • JakeDisseltJakeDisselt
    Posts: 64
    talos7 wrote: »
    JakeDisselt wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Actually Cavill was the runner-up to Craig in 2006.

    In 2006, yeah. Not since being cast as Supes though.

    Ah, the word “ever” threw me off.

    Sorry about that lol
  • boldfingerboldfinger
    Posts: 5,767
    fanbond123 wrote: »
    Mentioned before.. could Outlander actor Sam Heughan be someone on Eon's radar?

    https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/entertainment/tv-radio/outlander-star-sam-heughan-backed-13267119

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    Looks quite good here:

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    The first Foto Looks Pretty good, the second like a rich high School kid.




    fanbond123 wrote: »
    No pleasing some folk!

    Well what about Daniel Craig just before he got the role? What would your honest opinion be of his looks in 2004?

    daniel_craig_2004_09_05.jpg

    I prefer this one:

    danielcraig5.jpg


    See, some of you might have said "don't want ginger haired Bond!" - "Don't see any Bond in him!"

    We have to cut some of the potential actors some slack because you could argue Craig didn't look much like Bond before he got the part. I'm sure many MI6 users would have dismissed Craig's chances based on some of his photos? Admit it, some of us would!



    I thought he must be great in portraying character when I saw the first Foto back then. A lot of People on this site didn´t give him real flak, but didn´t trust his Looks. Not so few People were in favor of him once he was announced.
  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 9,511
    It's a shame-- a real bloody shame-- that Madden seems so short.

    I got my hands (legally) on the Bodyguard BBC series.

    I'm gob-smacked. This is drama at its best: production value is on the screen, wonderful story-telling, and a leading man who is empathetic and relatable, with lots of natural cool and charisma.

    Out of all of the actors we stack on this forum-- and IMHO:

    Madden is superior to:

    Hiddles (by ten country miles, in every way)
    Cavill (by almost the same);
    Hardy
    Elba
    Turner (BUT, I would give Turner a serious look above the four names above his own; not infatuated with him, but think there's more to work with here, than the others).

    But WOW-- Madden is truly blowing me away.


  • LudovicoLudovico
    Posts: 15,233
    bondjames wrote: »
    My concern with injecting a female OO is that it could water down Bond. That's how I felt with DAD anyway (even the posters had Brozz sharing space with Berry, which I found a bit unforgivable).

    At the end of the day Bond is the hero here, and he should always be the centre of attraction in a Bond film. The other characters come and go but they should never steal the spotlight from Bond imho, unless they are the villain and a one-off.

    Same here. People complain about Mi6 staff taking too much screen time now they want someone who does the exact same thing as Bond being featured? Other 00s should be used to a strict minimum.
  • fanbond123fanbond123
    Posts: 1,661
    Bond 25 is out Feb 14 2020 - it's official! - so the earliest time for Bond 26 is 2022? Enough time for lots of new names to pop up. :)
  • barryt007barryt007
    edited September 2018 Posts: 19,339
    fanbond123 wrote: »
    Bond 25 is out Feb 14 2020 - it's official! - so the earliest time for Bond 26 is 2022? Enough time for lots of new names to pop up. :)

    EDIT.

    FOUND THE ANSWER.

  • fanbond123fanbond123
    edited September 2018 Posts: 1,661
    One actor that could have had potential back in 2005 and who knows, if you don't mind an older Bond, could still have potential.... Ioan Gruffudd:

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    Peter wrote:
    It's a shame-- a real bloody shame-- that Madden seems so short.

    I got my hands (legally) on the Bodyguard BBC series.

    I'm gob-smacked. This is drama at its best: production value is on the screen, wonderful story-telling, and a leading man who is empathetic and relatable, with lots of natural cool and charisma.

    Out of all of the actors we stack on this forum-- and IMHO:

    Madden is superior to:

    Hiddles (by ten country miles, in every way)
    Cavill (by almost the same);
    Hardy
    Elba
    Turner (BUT, I would give Turner a serious look above the four names above his own; not infatuated with him, but think there's more to work with here, than the others).

    But WOW-- Madden is truly blowing me away.

    I suppose he'll look a tad older by the time Bond 26 goes into production so that should help. As you mention, he's "so short" for the role but I doubt it's a huge obstacle to overcome:

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  • JakeDisseltJakeDisselt
    Posts: 64
    fanbond123 wrote: »
    One actor that could have had potential back in 2005 and who knows, if you don't mind an older Bond, could still have potential.... Ioan Gruffudd:

    BtlLF2h0_o.jpg

    Peter wrote:
    It's a shame-- a real bloody shame-- that Madden seems so short.

    I got my hands (legally) on the Bodyguard BBC series.

    I'm gob-smacked. This is drama at its best: production value is on the screen, wonderful story-telling, and a leading man who is empathetic and relatable, with lots of natural cool and charisma.

    Out of all of the actors we stack on this forum-- and IMHO:

    Madden is superior to:

    Hiddles (by ten country miles, in every way)
    Cavill (by almost the same);
    Hardy
    Elba
    Turner (BUT, I would give Turner a serious look above the four names above his own; not infatuated with him, but think there's more to work with here, than the others).

    But WOW-- Madden is truly blowing me away.

    I suppose he'll look a tad older by the time Bond 26 goes into production so that should help. As you mention, he's "so short" for the role but I doubt it's a huge obstacle to overcome:

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    ;)

    Ioan Gruffudd would actually be an awesome choice as Bond. I'm actually surprised at myself for not having seen it sooner.
  • LudovicoLudovico
    Posts: 15,233
    Never liked Gruffud. Can't see him as Bond. He looks too soft.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Never liked Gruffud. Can't see him as Bond. He looks too soft.
    True. He doesn't command the screen imho. In the Fantastic Four series, Julian McMahon (himself a contender at one time) completely owned him.
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    edited September 2018 Posts: 17,821
    fanbond123 wrote: »
    One actor that could have had potential back in 2005 and who knows, if you don't mind an older Bond, could still have potential.... Ioan Gruffudd:

    BtlLF2h0_o.jpg

    Agree. If Gruffudd was a few years younger, he'd be a decent candidate now.

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  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    I don't see it myself.
  • barryt007barryt007
    Posts: 19,339
    Not for me.

    Simon Templar possibly,but not Bond.
  • LudovicoLudovico
    Posts: 15,233
    bondjames wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Never liked Gruffud. Can't see him as Bond. He looks too soft.
    True. He doesn't command the screen imho. In the Fantastic Four series, Julian McMahon (himself a contender at one time) completely owned him.

    Either would have been catastrophic imo.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    Ludovico wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Never liked Gruffud. Can't see him as Bond. He looks too soft.
    True. He doesn't command the screen imho. In the Fantastic Four series, Julian McMahon (himself a contender at one time) completely owned him.

    Either would have been catastrophic imo.
    I was also never really a big fan of either. I can't quite put my finger on what it is I think they lack, but they both seem a little lightweight.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    Dominic West would've been a terrific Reed Richards as Thunderfinger suggested once.
  • LudovicoLudovico
    Posts: 15,233
    bondjames wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Never liked Gruffud. Can't see him as Bond. He looks too soft.
    True. He doesn't command the screen imho. In the Fantastic Four series, Julian McMahon (himself a contender at one time) completely owned him.

    Either would have been catastrophic imo.
    I was also never really a big fan of either. I can't quite put my finger on what it is I think they lack, but they both seem a little lightweight.

    McMahon was too limited an actor and too sure of his suitability. Gruffud was and still is a poor man's Hugh Grant.
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