Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • suavejmf wrote: »
    Thanks @Resurrection & @JeremyBondon. We need another Dalton.

    Aidan Turner anyone........?

    Yeah, I have been rooting for him on mi6 (quite sure some of you noticed ;) ) since And Then There Were None. The guy was born to play the role, like f.e. Connery and Dalton. For this reason, there are many many factors that make a Bond, he is an obvious choice. In my opinion he is the sole heir, high up there, alone, to take over from Craig.

    We're definitely on the same page (by Fleming), @suavejmf

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    It still amazes me how anyone can't look at the above and see that "IS" James Bond.

  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    I think James D'Arcy looks more like Dalton, than Turner. While Turner has that same byronic look as Dalton, D'Arcy resembles Dalton more, especially around the eyes. And D'Arcy is 6'2" to Turners 5'9".
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
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    I think James D'Arcy looks more like Dalton, than Turner. While Turner has that same byronic look as Dalton, D'Arcy resembles Dalton more, especially around the eyes. And D'Arcy is 6'2" to Turners 5'9".

    D'Arcy isn't a very handsome guy, in my book. Squinted eyed, sure. However, Turner can do that trick too:
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    Turner looks like he actually could be Dalton's son. Turner is about 5'11", not 5'9" btw.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    At the moment Turner is my top choice, sometimes the obvious is the right pick .
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
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    talos7 wrote: »
    At the moment Turner is my top choice, sometimes the obvious is the right pick .

    Indeed @talos7 it sometimes just is.
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    talos7 wrote: »
    At the moment Turner is my top choice, sometimes the obvious is the right pick .

    Indeed @talos7 it sometimes just is.

    +1, Turner's the man for the job. If the job doesn't get delayed too much.
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    parkert5 wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    Thanks @Resurrection & @JeremyBondon. We need another Dalton.

    Aidan Turner anyone........?

    Yeah, I have been rooting for him on mi6 (quite sure some of you noticed ;) ) since And Then There Were None. The guy was born to play the role, like f.e. Connery and Dalton. For this reason, there are many many factors that make a Bond, he is an obvious choice. In my opinion he is the sole heir, high up there, alone, to take over from Craig.

    We're definitely on the same page (by Fleming), @suavejmf

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    It still amazes me how anyone can't look at the above and see that "IS" James Bond.

    I like Turner but people could say that about Cavil too.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    M_Blaise wrote: »
    parkert5 wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    Thanks @Resurrection & @JeremyBondon. We need another Dalton.

    Aidan Turner anyone........?

    Yeah, I have been rooting for him on mi6 (quite sure some of you noticed ;) ) since And Then There Were None. The guy was born to play the role, like f.e. Connery and Dalton. For this reason, there are many many factors that make a Bond, he is an obvious choice. In my opinion he is the sole heir, high up there, alone, to take over from Craig.

    We're definitely on the same page (by Fleming), @suavejmf

    tumblr_plhsu5GqVX1vjmqa0o4_r3_500.gif
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    It still amazes me how anyone can't look at the above and see that "IS" James Bond.

    I like Turner but people could say that about Cavil too.

    But Turner has charisma and can act.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    Squinted eyed? :-?? It has nothing to do with being..... sqinty eyed (we are still talking about likeness to Dalton, right?). It's the facial structure around the eyes, there is a strong resemblance between Dalton and D'Arcy.

    As the end of the day though, Dalton is one of gods most unique creatons, to intense to be replicated.
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    talos7 wrote: »
    M_Blaise wrote: »
    parkert5 wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    Thanks @Resurrection & @JeremyBondon. We need another Dalton.

    Aidan Turner anyone........?

    Yeah, I have been rooting for him on mi6 (quite sure some of you noticed ;) ) since And Then There Were None. The guy was born to play the role, like f.e. Connery and Dalton. For this reason, there are many many factors that make a Bond, he is an obvious choice. In my opinion he is the sole heir, high up there, alone, to take over from Craig.

    We're definitely on the same page (by Fleming), @suavejmf

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    It still amazes me how anyone can't look at the above and see that "IS" James Bond.

    I like Turner but people could say that about Cavil too.

    But Turner has charisma and can act.

    True. And he has the voice for it. And the eyebrows. Don’t underestimate the importance of eyebrows, which Craig only has highlighted sometimes and they give him expression. The eyebrow is key. Connery had them in spades, Moore added movement to his, so did Pierce, and Dalton had a wolf’s dynamic expression. So I say Turner’s the man because of his better eyebrows.

    :) This can be a very silly discussion, even when discussing a most serious matter.

    Anyways, Eyebrows!
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
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    talos7 wrote: »
    M_Blaise wrote: »
    parkert5 wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    Thanks @Resurrection & @JeremyBondon. We need another Dalton.

    Aidan Turner anyone........?

    Yeah, I have been rooting for him on mi6 (quite sure some of you noticed ;) ) since And Then There Were None. The guy was born to play the role, like f.e. Connery and Dalton. For this reason, there are many many factors that make a Bond, he is an obvious choice. In my opinion he is the sole heir, high up there, alone, to take over from Craig.

    We're definitely on the same page (by Fleming), @suavejmf

    tumblr_plhsu5GqVX1vjmqa0o4_r3_500.gif
    tumblr_plhsu5GqVX1vjmqa0o3_r1_500.gif
    tumblr_pmuz8temh71s95dj0_540.gif

    It still amazes me how anyone can't look at the above and see that "IS" James Bond.

    I like Turner but people could say that about Cavil too.

    But Turner has charisma and can act.

    Exactly at the moment he is the man, sadly i doubt EON will choose him.
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
    edited January 2020 Posts: 1,318
    Squinted eyed? :-?? It has nothing to do with being..... sqinty eyed (we are still talking about likeness to Dalton, right?). It's the facial structure around the eyes, there is a strong resemblance between Dalton and D'Arcy.

    As the end of the day though, Dalton is one of gods most unique creatons, to intense to be replicated.

    Semantics, to be honest, at least in my opinion. I see more of that in Turner's face/ bone structure, let alone the much stronger eyebrows.

    Dalton won't be replaced as there is only one, however Turner does incorporate qualities from Dalts, Connery to an extent and a little bit of his fellow Irishman Brozza. Unique, in his own way.

    @Univex We're on the same page, per usual ;)

    @Resurrection Quite sure Cubby would have chosen him. The dear man would have felt it too, I'm sure.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    I'd go with Turner as the next Bond. I think he is the only one of the potential candidates (that I know of) that can not only act but can be more than a one dimensional.

    I'd be disappointed if Turner or even Madden were available and Eon choose either Norton or Cavil. I think both are wooden and boring in terms of their screen presence, especially when compared with Turner and Madden
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
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    @JeremyBondon I am actually in support of Turner as bond just like you ;) and you are right that Cubby would have choosen him for sure but we don't know if Barbara think exactly like us. We can hope.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Univex wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    M_Blaise wrote: »
    parkert5 wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    Thanks @Resurrection & @JeremyBondon. We need another Dalton.

    Aidan Turner anyone........?

    Yeah, I have been rooting for him on mi6 (quite sure some of you noticed ;) ) since And Then There Were None. The guy was born to play the role, like f.e. Connery and Dalton. For this reason, there are many many factors that make a Bond, he is an obvious choice. In my opinion he is the sole heir, high up there, alone, to take over from Craig.

    We're definitely on the same page (by Fleming), @suavejmf

    tumblr_plhsu5GqVX1vjmqa0o4_r3_500.gif
    tumblr_plhsu5GqVX1vjmqa0o3_r1_500.gif
    tumblr_pmuz8temh71s95dj0_540.gif

    It still amazes me how anyone can't look at the above and see that "IS" James Bond.

    I like Turner but people could say that about Cavil too.

    But Turner has charisma and can act.

    True. And he has the voice for it. And the eyebrows. Don’t underestimate the importance of eyebrows, which Craig only has highlighted sometimes and they give him expression. The eyebrow is key. Connery had them in spades, Moore added movement to his, so did Pierce, and Dalton had a wolf’s dynamic expression. So I say Turner’s the man because of his better eyebrows.

    :) This can be a very silly discussion, even when discussing a most serious matter.

    Anyways, Eyebrows!
    Some may smirk and get a laugh at discussing eyebrows but their importance to a person’s look can’t be underestimated. Just look at Connery; for the role of Bond, quite a bit of attention was given to taming and shaping his brows, It was an important part of creating the character., Just look at them in DAF where they were left unattended.

    If you look at Craig throughout his tenure as Bond, he absolutely looks his best when he has visible brows. They really do add expression and are an invaluable tool for actors , with Moore taking it to an extreme. 😉
    Talking about eyebrows may seem silly but it’s no different than the countless other details that go into filmmaking and refining the image of a character.

  • M_Blaise wrote: »
    parkert5 wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    Thanks @Resurrection & @JeremyBondon. We need another Dalton.

    Aidan Turner anyone........?

    Yeah, I have been rooting for him on mi6 (quite sure some of you noticed ;) ) since And Then There Were None. The guy was born to play the role, like f.e. Connery and Dalton. For this reason, there are many many factors that make a Bond, he is an obvious choice. In my opinion he is the sole heir, high up there, alone, to take over from Craig.

    We're definitely on the same page (by Fleming), @suavejmf

    tumblr_plhsu5GqVX1vjmqa0o4_r3_500.gif
    tumblr_plhsu5GqVX1vjmqa0o3_r1_500.gif
    tumblr_pmuz8temh71s95dj0_540.gif

    It still amazes me how anyone can't look at the above and see that "IS" James Bond.

    I like Turner but people could say that about Cavil too.

    I agree. Im not stating that Turner is the only one who looks like he was born to play James Bond but it amazes me how people say they can't see him as James Bond. Im surprised that Tom Cullen from Knightfall hasn't gotten more Bond attention he's another who just looks the part.

  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    parkert5 wrote: »
    M_Blaise wrote: »
    parkert5 wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    Thanks @Resurrection & @JeremyBondon. We need another Dalton.

    Aidan Turner anyone........?

    Yeah, I have been rooting for him on mi6 (quite sure some of you noticed ;) ) since And Then There Were None. The guy was born to play the role, like f.e. Connery and Dalton. For this reason, there are many many factors that make a Bond, he is an obvious choice. In my opinion he is the sole heir, high up there, alone, to take over from Craig.

    We're definitely on the same page (by Fleming), @suavejmf

    tumblr_plhsu5GqVX1vjmqa0o4_r3_500.gif
    tumblr_plhsu5GqVX1vjmqa0o3_r1_500.gif
    tumblr_pmuz8temh71s95dj0_540.gif

    It still amazes me how anyone can't look at the above and see that "IS" James Bond.

    I like Turner but people could say that about Cavil too.

    I agree. Im not stating that Turner is the only one who looks like he was born to play James Bond but it amazes me how people say they can't see him as James Bond. Im surprised that Tom Cullen from Knightfall hasn't gotten more Bond attention he's another who just looks the part.

    I mentioned Cullen on January 1st.
    He definitely has the right look.


  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
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    I'm al for David Norton. He'll be about 38 when B26 will be released. Which I hope won't be a reboot.
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
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    I see what Cullen has and to a degree I agree, but to me he doesn't have it. He could be the next Ethan Hunt, more of a buff action hero
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  • I see what Cullen has and to a degree I agree, but to me he doesn't have it. He could be the next Ethan Hunt, more of a buff action hero
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    Interesting you only see him as a buff action here. He's played everything from a homosexual in The Weekend to Lord Gillingham on Downtown Abby to a dancer in Desert Dancer. His range is phenomenal. He's arguably the most verstatile actor I've seen mentioned here outside of maybe Jack Huston. Huston a interesting candidate as well.

  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
    edited January 2020 Posts: 1,318
    parkert5 wrote: »
    I see what Cullen has and to a degree I agree, but to me he doesn't have it. He could be the next Ethan Hunt, more of a buff action hero
    lorraine-tv-show-london-uk-shutterstock-editorial-10503832ac.jpg

    Interesting you only see him as a buff action here. He's played everything from a homosexual in The Weekend to Lord Gillingham on Downtown Abby to a dancer in Desert Dancer. His range is phenomenal. He's arguably the most verstatile actor I've seen mentioned here outside of maybe Jack Huston. Huston a interesting candidate as well.

    Cullen just has that typical look to me, less of a long face, somewhat more square, filled cheeks and a larger frame. It's what he exudes to me, basically. His acting gigs are secondary to me, just talking about his look.

    Huston looks extremely feminine to me, definitely a pass.
  • parkert5 wrote: »
    I see what Cullen has and to a degree I agree, but to me he doesn't have it. He could be the next Ethan Hunt, more of a buff action hero
    lorraine-tv-show-london-uk-shutterstock-editorial-10503832ac.jpg

    Interesting you only see him as a buff action here. He's played everything from a homosexual in The Weekend to Lord Gillingham on Downtown Abby to a dancer in Desert Dancer. His range is phenomenal. He's arguably the most verstatile actor I've seen mentioned here outside of maybe Jack Huston. Huston a interesting candidate as well.

    Cullen just has that typical look to me, less of a long face, somewhat more square, filled cheeks and a larger frame. It's what he exudes to me, basically. His acting gigs are secondary to me, just talking about his look.

    Huston looks extremely feminine to me, definitely a pass.

    That's interesting to me as well. The guy who played Richard Harrow on Boardwalk Empire and the new Ben-Hur looks "feminine" to you. I agreee when Huston has long hair he can come across sorta boy bandsih but when he cuts it short and is in dark role he's broading.

  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
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    parkert5 wrote: »
    parkert5 wrote: »
    I see what Cullen has and to a degree I agree, but to me he doesn't have it. He could be the next Ethan Hunt, more of a buff action hero
    lorraine-tv-show-london-uk-shutterstock-editorial-10503832ac.jpg

    Interesting you only see him as a buff action here. He's played everything from a homosexual in The Weekend to Lord Gillingham on Downtown Abby to a dancer in Desert Dancer. His range is phenomenal. He's arguably the most verstatile actor I've seen mentioned here outside of maybe Jack Huston. Huston a interesting candidate as well.

    Cullen just has that typical look to me, less of a long face, somewhat more square, filled cheeks and a larger frame. It's what he exudes to me, basically. His acting gigs are secondary to me, just talking about his look.

    Huston looks extremely feminine to me, definitely a pass.

    That's interesting to me as well. The guy who played Richard Harrow on Boardwalk Empire and the new Ben-Hur looks "feminine" to you. I agreee when Huston has long hair he can come across sorta boy bandsih but when he cuts it short and is in dark role he's broading.

    Let's agree to disagree. Also, you're confusing acting roles with a face value look.
  • parkert5 wrote: »
    parkert5 wrote: »
    I see what Cullen has and to a degree I agree, but to me he doesn't have it. He could be the next Ethan Hunt, more of a buff action hero
    lorraine-tv-show-london-uk-shutterstock-editorial-10503832ac.jpg

    Interesting you only see him as a buff action here. He's played everything from a homosexual in The Weekend to Lord Gillingham on Downtown Abby to a dancer in Desert Dancer. His range is phenomenal. He's arguably the most verstatile actor I've seen mentioned here outside of maybe Jack Huston. Huston a interesting candidate as well.

    Cullen just has that typical look to me, less of a long face, somewhat more square, filled cheeks and a larger frame. It's what he exudes to me, basically. His acting gigs are secondary to me, just talking about his look.

    Huston looks extremely feminine to me, definitely a pass.

    That's interesting to me as well. The guy who played Richard Harrow on Boardwalk Empire and the new Ben-Hur looks "feminine" to you. I agreee when Huston has long hair he can come across sorta boy bandsih but when he cuts it short and is in dark role he's broading.

    Let's agree to disagree. Also, you're confusing acting roles with a face value look.

    I see what you mean. The ability to transform into a role is more important to me than "face value" or Id say everyday look because with certain hair cuts/styles/workouts/products one can change there look to an extent. You have to have a basic template to work with or it won't work (ex. Danny Devito can't be made to look Bondish)
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
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    parkert5 wrote: »
    parkert5 wrote: »
    parkert5 wrote: »
    I see what Cullen has and to a degree I agree, but to me he doesn't have it. He could be the next Ethan Hunt, more of a buff action hero
    lorraine-tv-show-london-uk-shutterstock-editorial-10503832ac.jpg

    Interesting you only see him as a buff action here. He's played everything from a homosexual in The Weekend to Lord Gillingham on Downtown Abby to a dancer in Desert Dancer. His range is phenomenal. He's arguably the most verstatile actor I've seen mentioned here outside of maybe Jack Huston. Huston a interesting candidate as well.

    Cullen just has that typical look to me, less of a long face, somewhat more square, filled cheeks and a larger frame. It's what he exudes to me, basically. His acting gigs are secondary to me, just talking about his look.

    Huston looks extremely feminine to me, definitely a pass.

    That's interesting to me as well. The guy who played Richard Harrow on Boardwalk Empire and the new Ben-Hur looks "feminine" to you. I agreee when Huston has long hair he can come across sorta boy bandsih but when he cuts it short and is in dark role he's broading.

    Let's agree to disagree. Also, you're confusing acting roles with a face value look.

    I see what you mean. The ability to transform into a role is more important to me than "face value" or Id say everyday look because with certain hair cuts/styles/workouts/products one can change there look to an extent. You have to have a basic template to work with or it won't work (ex. Danny Devito can't be made to look Bondish)

    I agree with some of your points. Only that that the 'template', if you will, needs to be accurate from the get go, which is subjective. The so called solutions you mention only have limited influence.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    Well I can see the Turner boys have shown up in droves again ;-)

    Anyway, I don't think anyone here would've said this guy could be Bond if they'd seen him like that:
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    TO come back to Dalton: the examples given are exact extracts from the books. To me, he isn't that consistent. He's got quite a few very good scenes, but the balloon one when Saunders is killed? That's too much, definately not the cold professional the book Bond is when such a thing happens. The only time he does is when he goes to look at the charred remains of Quarrel.
    Allthough I like Dalton in the role, I think the Daltonites here are overstating his achievements a bit. Yes, he fits the descriptive standouts, and yes he's a decent actor, and yes he did quite a few scenes amazingly. At the smae time he dropped the ball just a tad too many times for my liking.
  • edited January 2020 Posts: 6,709
    Well I can see the Turner boys have shown up in droves again ;-)

    Hey, when you say "Turner boys" it's because you know there's lots and lots of us, right?

    :-D
    And yes, I am a proud Daltonite.
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
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    Well I can see the Turner boys have shown up in droves again ;-)

    Anyway, I don't think anyone here would've said this guy could be Bond if they'd seen him like that:
    160335_small.jpg


    TO come back to Dalton: the examples given are exact extracts from the books. To me, he isn't that consistent. He's got quite a few very good scenes, but the balloon one when Saunders is killed? That's too much, definately not the cold professional the book Bond is when such a thing happens. The only time he does is when he goes to look at the charred remains of Quarrel.
    Allthough I like Dalton in the role, I think the Daltonites here are overstating his achievements a bit. Yes, he fits the descriptive standouts, and yes he's a decent actor, and yes he did quite a few scenes amazingly. At the smae time he dropped the ball just a tad too many times for my liking.


    To be honest the films he got didn't really do him that much favours, TLD is definitely his best but LTK is just all over the place, its a gritty violent thriller, then Q turns up with the most absurd bag of tricks ever seen in a Bond film.

    Q in the field just undermines the whole Bond on his own in danger element and feels like something from a Moore film, yes in Octopussy but not here.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
    edited January 2020 Posts: 2,541
    parkert5 wrote: »
    parkert5 wrote: »
    parkert5 wrote: »
    I see what Cullen has and to a degree I agree, but to me he doesn't have it. He could be the next Ethan Hunt, more of a buff action hero
    lorraine-tv-show-london-uk-shutterstock-editorial-10503832ac.jpg

    Interesting you only see him as a buff action here. He's played everything from a homosexual in The Weekend to Lord Gillingham on Downtown Abby to a dancer in Desert Dancer. His range is phenomenal. He's arguably the most verstatile actor I've seen mentioned here outside of maybe Jack Huston. Huston a interesting candidate as well.

    Cullen just has that typical look to me, less of a long face, somewhat more square, filled cheeks and a larger frame. It's what he exudes to me, basically. His acting gigs are secondary to me, just talking about his look.

    Huston looks extremely feminine to me, definitely a pass.

    That's interesting to me as well. The guy who played Richard Harrow on Boardwalk Empire and the new Ben-Hur looks "feminine" to you. I agreee when Huston has long hair he can come across sorta boy bandsih but when he cuts it short and is in dark role he's broading.

    Let's agree to disagree. Also, you're confusing acting roles with a face value look.

    I see what you mean. The ability to transform into a role is more important to me than "face value" or Id say everyday look because with certain hair cuts/styles/workouts/products one can change there look to an extent. You have to have a basic template to work with or it won't work (ex. Danny Devito can't be made to look Bondish)

    I agree with some of your points. Only that that the 'template', if you will, needs to be accurate from the get go, which is subjective. The so called solutions you mention only have limited influence.

    This, anyone can transform themselves into bond these days. I want to see an actor who looks effortless. Someone who will make too much effort to incorporate himself into the character most of the times shows desperation. Not really my cup of tea to be honest and I say again Craig2.0 won't work the second time if they go down that route.
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    He read them, sure; but what specifically are you thinking he drew from the books that no-one else did? There's this repeated mantra that 'he was the book Bond' but I never really read much analysis to back that up.
    And I'd very much disagree he brought gravitas: personally I think he kind of disappeared in the role. He's not a presence in those films like even Brosnan was. In them he's just not really a movie star like it needs. He looks great though, yes.
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I don't buy it......look, the model used by the British press is transparent. If you're on a Sunday night show on BBC1 than you are suddenly the 'hot favourite' for Bond. This was how the following names gained traction:
    • Tom Hiddleston (Night Manager)
    • Richard Madden (Bodyguard)
    • James Norton (Trials of Christine Keeler - which is on tv now, explaining the current rumour)
    • Cillian Murphy (Peaky Blinders)
    • Idris Elba (Luther)
    • Aidan Turner (Poldark)
    • .....and the list goes on.

    If we can't have Robert Pattinson because of Batman, then I think someone to keep an eye on is Jamie Dornan. In fact, he's my preferred choice. He's sexy and has a certain Tim Dalton-esque danger to him.

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    Although I strongly disagree with you about Jamie Dornan, I think you're right about what trigger tabloids to say who'se being considered as the next Bond. I might audition to one of those BBC Sunday dramas. If I'm cast, I won't get any nearer to Bond, but the tabloids will have a day. I can already read the headlines : "Bold move as 42 year old French Canadian about to sign as Bond."

    Heh! It's a good point. As you guys say, funny how Norton is suddenly a candidate again now he's on telly in a 60's drama wearing a dinner jacket...
    :D
    mtm wrote: »
    He read them, sure; but what specifically are you thinking he drew from the books that no-one else did? There's this repeated mantra that 'he was the book Bond' but I never really read much analysis to back that up.
    And I'd very much disagree he brought gravitas: personally I think he kind of disappeared in the role. He's not a presence in those films like even Brosnan was. In them he's just not really a movie star like it needs. He looks great though, yes.
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I don't buy it......look, the model used by the British press is transparent. If you're on a Sunday night show on BBC1 than you are suddenly the 'hot favourite' for Bond. This was how the following names gained traction:
    • Tom Hiddleston (Night Manager)
    • Richard Madden (Bodyguard)
    • James Norton (Trials of Christine Keeler - which is on tv now, explaining the current rumour)
    • Cillian Murphy (Peaky Blinders)
    • Idris Elba (Luther)
    • Aidan Turner (Poldark)
    • .....and the list goes on.

    If we can't have Robert Pattinson because of Batman, then I think someone to keep an eye on is Jamie Dornan. In fact, he's my preferred choice. He's sexy and has a certain Tim Dalton-esque danger to him.

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    Although I strongly disagree with you about Jamie Dornan, I think you're right about what trigger tabloids to say who'se being considered as the next Bond. I might audition to one of those BBC Sunday dramas. If I'm cast, I won't get any nearer to Bond, but the tabloids will have a day. I can already read the headlines : "Bold move as 42 year old French Canadian about to sign as Bond."

    Heh! It's a good point. As you guys say, funny how Norton is suddenly a candidate again now he's on telly in a 60's drama wearing a dinner jacket...
    :D

    He was dark, he was ruthless, and he managed to show precisely what Bond was all about: a merciless, calculating, professional assassin. His relationships with women and M were the same as Fleming's books.

    Ironically, the very characteristics that got Dalton slammed are the very same things that the Bond producers are praising Daniel Craig for.

    On and on, they have said they want Bond to be closer to the original Ian Fleming character. They want him to be grittier, darker and less jokey. What they really want, it seems, is to have Dalton back.

    Whereas Moore’s Bond would constantly toss one-liners and cheap jokes and raise an eyebrow, Dalton took it more seriously, not afraid to show fear and anger (LIKE THE BOOKS). But that’s where some moviegoers didn’t take to him.

    I read Fleming’s novels after I saw the movies. It can be the case that you embrace the first James Bond you ever see as your lifetime favourite. The first Bond I saw was Roger Moore in FYEO, some time in the late 1980s. I loved it, I love Roger, and it remains one of my favourites. Then I saw Connery. I loved him too. I thought they were both great in different ways – but not quite what I’d had in mind from the character in the books. Connery remains my favourite onscreen.

    When I saw Dalton in The Living Daylights & Licence to Kill I thought: “That’s him! That’s James Bond!” Dalton steeped himself in Fleming’s stories for his research for the part. It shows. I noticed it as a kid with no preconceptions. Dalton moves with great poise, and lets his narrow eyes do a lot of work. He’s like a hunter, the consummate silent killer. Connery and Craig both move with an intoxicating swagger that looks fantastic on screen. But is it entirely right for the part?

    It’s one of the choices that make his Bond so enduringly fascinating. There’s a sequence early on in The Living Daylights when Bond is ordered to kill a sniper who may be targeting Koskov, a Russian former KGB agent who is defecting to the West. He notices that the sniper is a woman. No matter. He lines up the shot. Then he notices something else and deliberately misses, hitting the rifle out of her hands instead of the target.
    “Your orders were to kill that girl,” Saunders reprimands him.
    “Stuff my orders,” Bond replies. “That girl didn’t know one end of the rifle from the other. I only kill professionals.”

    None of the previous incarnations of Bond could possibly have delivered that line. Earlier Bonds were all establishment figures who obeyed their orders, allowing the British Government to act as arbiters of their morality. There’s nothing so unambiguous in the world of Dalton’s Bond. Note that it’s not because the sniper is female, nor because she’s beautiful – he would still have killed her without a second’s thought if she had been a real KGB assassin. It’s because she’s not part of the game. THIS IS FROM FLEMING.

    Bond is in a right state at the end of Licence to Kill. His nose is bloody, his hair’s a mess, his jacket’s ripped and he’s covered in dust. After he kills off the main baddie, Sanchez (Robert Davi), Bond dry heaves in disgust at it all. It’s an amazing reaction. Dalton’s is a human Bond. THIS IS FROM FLEMING.

    Dangling over the edge of whirring blades in Licence to Kill, Pam rushes over and asks if he’s all right. “Switch the bloody machine off!” he yells. It took until 1989 for Bond to lose his cool…THIS IS FROM FLEMING.

    Like Fleming's books, Dalton's Bond is human, edgy, and morally complex. Dalton may only have made two films, but he captured Bond perfectly. He will always be the connoisseur’s James Bond.

    Spot on!
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