Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • OctopussyOctopussy Piz Gloria, Schilthorn, Switzerland.
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    talos7 wrote: »
    Bar the Craig films a 'timeline' isn't a Bond thing, they are just separate films with the same character.

    This is debatable...

    Sure, but Quantum of Solace is tied to Casino Royale and Spectre is tied to Skyfall. We know for a fact that No Time To Die will be related to Spectre in some way as Madeline and Blofeld are returning. If I recall correctly, with the exception of On Her Majesty's Secret Service and Diamonds Are Forever (if you can even really call that a 'sequel') there has never been any genuine continuity to Bond films prior to the Craig era. I agree with @BonSimonLeBon_1 that they are different films, separate missions, but with the same character. Any reference to a previous film like the beginning of For Your Eyes Only or Felix's comment to Della about Bond having been married in Licence To Kill are purely 'easter eggs' rather then concrete evidence of any timeline, IMO. I don't believe EON views them on a timeline.

    Seems we've gotten a bit off topic here.
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    Univex wrote: »
    How about Henry Cowbell?
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    Yes!
  • Far from my top choice, but I can see it...



    I could buy into Cavill is he stops the cringeworthy Instagram posts and perhaps diverfies his filmography. I think he could work in a comedy, maybe a rom-com. He just needs a better agent so people don't think he was once that dude who played Superman in those bad films......
  • DrClatterhandDrClatterhand United Kingdom
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    Cavill is so bland. If there's a God up there, this will never happen.
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
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    We've had an extensive discussion about Cavill a few pages back.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Well it looks like it’s continuing 😏
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
    edited January 2020 Posts: 4,043
    Haven't you heard it is James Norton according to the tabloids BS, BB didn't want Cavill before she certainly won't want him now, he hasn't got a cat in hell's chance of bagging the role.

    Look BB is not interested in making anymore Bond films for a while so lets face it, mostly everyone here touted is going to be out of the running 4 - 5 years time especially that charisma free block of wood.
  • DeerAtTheGatesDeerAtTheGates Belgium
    edited January 2020 Posts: 524
    Shardlake wrote: »
    Haven't you heard it is James Norton according to the tabloids BS, BB didn't want Cavill before she certainly won't want him now, he hasn't got a cat in hell's chance of bagging the role.

    Look BB is not interested in making anymore Bond films for a while so lets face it, mostly everyone here touted is going to be out of the running 4 - 5 years time especially that charisma free block of wood.

    I’m not sure if you’re being sarcastic or not (or which part is), but the last ones to believe are the tabloids.
    I doubt BB and MGW are actively searching for a new Bond right now. They probably had some meetings in between SP and Craig’s agree he’d do another one, but currently they probably want to get a certain film to theaters first.

    As for whether BB is interested or not… It’s clear she’s a bit emotional over Craig leaving, as she keeps saying she’s in shock. But when all is set and done, she’s a professional, and when NTTD has had its run, she’ll search for a new leading man.
    And of course there will be a gap. But remember that MGM still owns 50% of Bond. And looking at their financials, I doubt they want another 5 year gap. Bond is one of their only money makers. So my guess is that they’ll try to do everything to get the next Bond out within 3 years after NTTD. Whether they succeed, remains to be seen.

    Also something to remember: BB is not the sole decision maker. MGW is still a producer at the moment, and both hold exactly 50% of the shares in Danjaq. Again, whether this stays like that for the coming future remains to be seen. But with Gregg rumoured to take over from his father and MGM wanting to have a say and the director of Bond 26 will have an opinion too… BB isn’t making that decision alone.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    edited January 2020 Posts: 7,546
    Henry Cavill would make a great Gustav Graves, but that's the only way I'd want to see him in the Bond franchise.
    My dream casting is still Luke Evans:

    Nothing Bond in there, but I like the interview.
    Fit, charismatic, good enough actor, Welsh like Dalton. Not many people have the look that could be Bond to my eyes, but Evans does. A lot of the front runners IMO look too young (Madden, Hiddleston, etc).
  • OctopussyOctopussy Piz Gloria, Schilthorn, Switzerland.
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    Far from my top choice, but I can see it...



    I could buy into Cavill is he stops the cringeworthy Instagram posts and perhaps diverfies his filmography. I think he could work in a comedy, maybe a rom-com. He just needs a better agent so people don't think he was once that dude who played Superman in those bad films......

    Brosnan verion 2.0, IMO.
  • Octopussy wrote: »
    Far from my top choice, but I can see it...



    I could buy into Cavill is he stops the cringeworthy Instagram posts and perhaps diverfies his filmography. I think he could work in a comedy, maybe a rom-com. He just needs a better agent so people don't think he was once that dude who played Superman in those bad films......

    Brosnan verion 2.0, IMO.

    The first thought that came to my mind when I saw that poster!
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    Henry Cavill would make a great Gustav Graves, but that's the only way I'd want to see him in the Bond franchise.
    My dream casting is still Luke Evans:

    Nothing Bond in there, but I like the interview.
    Fit, charismatic, good enough actor, Welsh like Dalton. Not many people have the look that could be Bond to my eyes, but Evans does. A lot of the front runners IMO look too young (Madden, Hiddleston, etc).

    They might be young now but they won't be by the time the next film comes out.

    Throwing this out there just to get everyone spluttering over their cornflakes- how about Nicholas Hoult? I saw him in Tolkein the other day. He's really matured as an actor.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    edited January 2020 Posts: 7,546
    Personally I’m not sure how anyone could read Fleming and picture anyone even distantly resembling Hoult. It’ll be very interesting to see where they go after Craig.
    You’re saying they *are* young and will be older when the next film comes out. True. I’m saying they *look* young (or come across that way, if you will) which I think is different.
  • edited January 2020 Posts: 11,425
    Personally I’m not sure how anyone could read Fleming and picture anyone even distantly resembling Hoult. It’ll be very interesting to see where they go after Craig.
    You’re saying they *are* young and will be older when the next film comes out. True. I’m saying they *look* young (or come across that way, if you will) which I think is different.

    Looks wise he's not exactly classic leading man but he's not ugly. I think he's grown into his looks a bit. I am only half serious but I think he's an "interesting" actor. You care about his characters, which is important. He's not just all alpha male ego. It's the quality that makes Dalton a subtly different and interesting Bond IMO.

    Plus he doesn't look like a nightclub bouncer so you'd get back a bit of the sense that Bond can't just punch his way out of any situation.

    I highly doubt it will be Hoult but I'd like someone who brings a bit subtlety and physical vulnerability to the role. The action superhero take is a bit tired. Let's face it, the two biggest influences on the Craig era were Bourne (invincible trained assassin) and Batman (angsty superhero).

    It's hard to predict where things will go next. I do suspect there might be a swing back towards a more lighthearted approach - possibly. But they will want to keep the sense of a more complex character as well, with vulnerability.
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
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    Shardlake wrote: »
    Haven't you heard it is James Norton according to the tabloids BS, BB didn't want Cavill before she certainly won't want him now, he hasn't got a cat in hell's chance of bagging the role.

    Look BB is not interested in making anymore Bond films for a while so lets face it, mostly everyone here touted is going to be out of the running 4 - 5 years time especially that charisma free block of wood.

    I’m not sure if you’re being sarcastic or not (or which part is), but the last ones to believe are the tabloids.
    I doubt BB and MGW are actively searching for a new Bond right now. They probably had some meetings in between SP and Craig’s agree he’d do another one, but currently they probably want to get a certain film to theaters first.

    As for whether BB is interested or not… It’s clear she’s a bit emotional over Craig leaving, as she keeps saying she’s in shock. But when all is set and done, she’s a professional, and when NTTD has had its run, she’ll search for a new leading man.
    And of course there will be a gap. But remember that MGM still owns 50% of Bond. And looking at their financials, I doubt they want another 5 year gap. Bond is one of their only money makers. So my guess is that they’ll try to do everything to get the next Bond out within 3 years after NTTD. Whether they succeed, remains to be seen.

    Also something to remember: BB is not the sole decision maker. MGW is still a producer at the moment, and both hold exactly 50% of the shares in Danjaq. Again, whether this stays like that for the coming future remains to be seen. But with Gregg rumoured to take over from his father and MGM wanting to have a say and the director of Bond 26 will have an opinion too… BB isn’t making that decision alone.

    It was sarcasm hence the BS, they might well move forward sooner although that might be Bond fans wishful thinking and Henry Cavill won't be in consideration come then if they do.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
    edited January 2020 Posts: 13,978
    Henry Cavill would make a great Gustav Graves, but that's the only way I'd want to see him in the Bond franchise.
    My dream casting is still Luke Evans:

    Nothing Bond in there, but I like the interview.
    Fit, charismatic, good enough actor, Welsh like Dalton. Not many people have the look that could be Bond to my eyes, but Evans does. A lot of the front runners IMO look too young (Madden, Hiddleston, etc).

    I mentioned something recently about Vivienne's reaction to Bond in TSWLM, well, Evans also fits that image in my mind. He's charming, yet he has a toughness to him. Not that is carries any real weight, but Evans' casting would get my blessing.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    I’ve been touting Hoult for a while; he’s really growing into his looks and in 5 years will be a perfect age, 35.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    Henry Cavill would make a great Gustav Graves, but that's the only way I'd want to see him in the Bond franchise.
    My dream casting is still Luke Evans:

    Nothing Bond in there, but I like the interview.
    Fit, charismatic, good enough actor, Welsh like Dalton. Not many people have the look that could be Bond to my eyes, but Evans does. A lot of the front runners IMO look too young (Madden, Hiddleston, etc).

    I mentioned something recently about Vivienne's reaction to Bond in TSWLM, well, Evans also fits that image in my mind. He's charming, yet he has a toughness to him. Not that is carries any real weight, but Evans' casting would get my blessing.

    I'd be fine with Luke Evans, he's a descent actor with good range and versatility. Despite being on the older side, I don't think he's too old yet. He certainly doesn't look past it.
    Another Welshmen I'd consider would be Matthew Rhys. He's one of my favourite actors, who like Evans (and Dalton) has amazing talent. Again on the older side, but still capable of delivering the good methinks.
    What is it with the Welsh being terrific thespians? Too many too list.
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    I'd be really happy with Luke Evans (my #1 choice) or Matthew Rhys (brilliant in The Americans); much more than any other names mentioned regularly here. But given their age, we can more or less write them off. Unless they give the next actor two-three films max.
  • I’ve got my eye on Jamie Dornan still….he’s got something. ……he reminds me of Michael Fassbender a bit

    He’s handsome, looks kinda menacing and has a certain charisma. I think he could be a star. Much like Robert Pattinson, he’s associated with a crappy franchise where he made his name and is currently trying to do as much diverse work to prove himself.

    I’m most interested in ‘A Private War’ and ‘My Dinner with Herve.’ He’s also doing a studio comedy with ‘Barb and Star Go to Vista Del Mar.’ Looks like he’s on the right career path.

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    The only other choice for me is Richard Madden. He looks like Bond and can actually act. He was great in that small part at the end of ‘1917.’ He has charm and sex appeal to burn. So he’s high on my list too. Both him and Dornan are my top choices.

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  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    It all depends on the direction and the length of any hiatus after NTTD really.
    If it's a more fun and camp direction expect someone like Hiddleston or Cavill, but if it's he same path as the Craig era but a touch lighter (Goldeneye style) I'd go with Turner or Madden. They're the only two I can picture being James Bond, the others are all just celebs from being linked with the role.
    Personally I just hope we don't get a more camp Bond, I don't think it will work in this current era and I think it would be too jarring to audiences. A Goldeneye style reboot is what is required.

    I sort of feel bad for anybody who takes over from Craig, because unless the film is written extremely well, there is going to be a drop off in terms of talent in the lead role. There's nobody out there that I feel is good enough to do Bond better than Craig, he just gets it
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    I’ve got my eye on Jamie Dornan still….he’s got something. ……he reminds me of Michael Fassbender a bit

    He’s handsome, looks kinda menacing and has a certain charisma. I think he could be a star. Much like Robert Pattinson, he’s associated with a crappy franchise where he made his name and is currently trying to do as much diverse work to prove himself.

    I’m most interested in ‘A Private War’ and ‘My Dinner with Herve.’ He’s also doing a studio comedy with ‘Barb and Star Go to Vista Del Mar.’ Looks like he’s on the right career path.

    mgid:ao:image:mtv.com:223538?quality=0.8&format=jpg

    The only other choice for me is Richard Madden. He looks like Bond and can actually act. He was great in that small part at the end of ‘1917.’ He has charm and sex appeal to burn. So he’s high on my list too. Both him and Dornan are my top choices.

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    Either that's a huge car or the man is way too small to be Bond.
  • DeerAtTheGatesDeerAtTheGates Belgium
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    I’ve got my eye on Jamie Dornan still….he’s got something. ……he reminds me of Michael Fassbender a bit

    He’s handsome, looks kinda menacing and has a certain charisma. I think he could be a star. Much like Robert Pattinson, he’s associated with a crappy franchise where he made his name and is currently trying to do as much diverse work to prove himself.

    I’m most interested in ‘A Private War’ and ‘My Dinner with Herve.’ He’s also doing a studio comedy with ‘Barb and Star Go to Vista Del Mar.’ Looks like he’s on the right career path.

    mgid:ao:image:mtv.com:223538?quality=0.8&format=jpg

    The only other choice for me is Richard Madden. He looks like Bond and can actually act. He was great in that small part at the end of ‘1917.’ He has charm and sex appeal to burn. So he’s high on my list too. Both him and Dornan are my top choices.

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    Either that's a huge car or the man is way too small to be Bond.

    Found two different numbers, so I guess he's between those two. Madden is between 1.759 and 1.77 meters, or between 5' 9 ¼" and 5' 9 ¾". So that's on the short side of the spectrum for a role as Bond. By comparison, Daniel Craig is 1.784 meters or 5' 10 ¼".
  • Jordo007 wrote: »
    It all depends on the direction and the length of any hiatus after NTTD really.
    If it's a more fun and camp direction expect someone like Hiddleston or Cavill, but if it's he same path as the Craig era but a touch lighter (Goldeneye style) I'd go with Turner or Madden. They're the only two I can picture being James Bond, the others are all just celebs from being linked with the role.
    Personally I just hope we don't get a more camp Bond, I don't think it will work in this current era and I think it would be too jarring to audiences. A Goldeneye style reboot is what is required.

    I sort of feel bad for anybody who takes over from Craig, because unless the film is written extremely well, there is going to be a drop off in terms of talent in the lead role. There's nobody out there that I feel is good enough to do Bond better than Craig, he just gets it


    Craig has been a great Bond right up there with Connery and Dalton for me. But, remember there were a lot (and I mean a lot) of people who thought Craig was completely wrong for Bond as well and then Casino Royale came out and a lot (and I mean a lot) of people had to swallow thier pride and admit they were wrong. So, maybe whether it's one of the popular choices here like Aidan Turner or if its some of the unpopular choices here like Jack Huston (though he's in my top 10 for Bond) or if its a complete unknown to this board we'll have to wait to see the final product before were truly know how the new guy will fare as Bond and some of us might be pleasantly surprised.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    edited January 2020 Posts: 7,546
    It should be an unknown at this point. Everything you’ve said about Craig is true; I remember not having strong feelings one way or another about his casting but now he’s one of my favourites. If they cast Aidan Turner, I don’t know what I’ll do.
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    talos7 wrote: »
    I’ve been touting Hoult for a while; he’s really growing into his looks and in 5 years will be a perfect age, 35.

    Agree
  • It should be an unknown at this point. Everything you’ve said about Craig is true; I remember not having strong feelings one way or another about his casting but now he’s one of my favourites. If they cast Aidan Turner, I don’t know what I’ll do.

    Is there anything in particular you don't like about Turner? He's my current #1 choice for the next Bond.

  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    edited January 2020 Posts: 7,546
    parkert5 wrote: »
    It should be an unknown at this point. Everything you’ve said about Craig is true; I remember not having strong feelings one way or another about his casting but now he’s one of my favourites. If they cast Aidan Turner, I don’t know what I’ll do.

    Is there anything in particular you don't like about Turner? He's my current #1 choice for the next Bond.

    Just the same concerns I have with many front runners. He looks like a child. It's not about his actual age, which I'm sure is very appropriate, but to my mind he has far too juvenile a look compared to the character Fleming wrote about / described.

    I had another look, and it's not as bad as I thought:
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    But for me he still has a youthfulness that for me seems inappropriate for the character. Just my two cents.

    Bond needs to be weathered, experienced. His whole deal is that he's a 00 that has lived well past his life expectancy. Time spent in a career like that needs to show and for me Turner doesn't convey it in a way someone like Evans, or even Elba, could, as Craig has. It took me awhile but I've come around to Madden, who I didn't like for a long time for the same reason.

    If they cast him, I think he'll be a Lazenby / Moore / Brosnan Bond, which is fantastic company to keep, but I think I'm a bigger fan of the Connery / Dalton / Craig type of Bond. Which is crazy because I love Brosnan... this post is creating itself very organically haha, I don't know what I think anymore.
  • parkert5 wrote: »
    It should be an unknown at this point. Everything you’ve said about Craig is true; I remember not having strong feelings one way or another about his casting but now he’s one of my favourites. If they cast Aidan Turner, I don’t know what I’ll do.

    Is there anything in particular you don't like about Turner? He's my current #1 choice for the next Bond.

    Just the same concerns I have with many front runners. He looks like a child. It's not about his actual age, which I'm sure is very appropriate, but to my mind he has far too juvenile a look compared to the character Fleming wrote about / described.

    I had another look, and it's not as bad as I thought:
    11642569-high-res-poldark-682x920.jpg
    But for me he still has a youthfulness that for me seems inappropriate for the character. Just my two cents.

    Bond needs to be weathered, experienced. His whole deal is that he's a 00 that has lived well past his life expectancy. Time spent in a career like that needs to show and for me Turner doesn't convey it in a way someone like Evans, or even Elba, could, as Craig has. It took me awhile but I've come around to Madden, who I didn't like for a long time for the same reason.

    If they cast him, I think he'll be a Lazenby / Moore / Brosnan Bond, which is fantastic company to keep, but I think I'm a bigger fan of the Connery / Dalton / Craig type of Bond. Which is crazy because I love Brosnan... this post is creating itself very organically haha, I don't know what I think anymore.

    He does look youthful. Like you stated most people do nowadays. I think alot of that has to do with advance in nutrition and supplementation and also less hard work. People don't grow up working in gardens chopping wood and things of that nature much anymore. Madden isnt my top choice but he's in my top 10 for sure.

  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    edited January 2020 Posts: 7,546
    parkert5 wrote: »
    parkert5 wrote: »
    It should be an unknown at this point. Everything you’ve said about Craig is true; I remember not having strong feelings one way or another about his casting but now he’s one of my favourites. If they cast Aidan Turner, I don’t know what I’ll do.

    Is there anything in particular you don't like about Turner? He's my current #1 choice for the next Bond.

    Just the same concerns I have with many front runners. He looks like a child. It's not about his actual age, which I'm sure is very appropriate, but to my mind he has far too juvenile a look compared to the character Fleming wrote about / described.

    I had another look, and it's not as bad as I thought:
    11642569-high-res-poldark-682x920.jpg
    But for me he still has a youthfulness that for me seems inappropriate for the character. Just my two cents.

    Bond needs to be weathered, experienced. His whole deal is that he's a 00 that has lived well past his life expectancy. Time spent in a career like that needs to show and for me Turner doesn't convey it in a way someone like Evans, or even Elba, could, as Craig has. It took me awhile but I've come around to Madden, who I didn't like for a long time for the same reason.

    If they cast him, I think he'll be a Lazenby / Moore / Brosnan Bond, which is fantastic company to keep, but I think I'm a bigger fan of the Connery / Dalton / Craig type of Bond. Which is crazy because I love Brosnan... this post is creating itself very organically haha, I don't know what I think anymore.

    He does look youthful. Like you stated most people do nowadays. I think alot of that has to do with advance in nutrition and supplementation and also less hard work. People don't grow up working in gardens chopping wood and things of that nature much anymore. Madden isnt my top choice but he's in my top 10 for sure.

    I don’t know if most people do, I was just stating that a lot of the Bond front runners do. Whomever takes over for Craig doesn’t need to have chopped a lot of wood or done some gardening, they should just evoke a little weathering and experience from being in a killing career for too long.

    It’s definitely a balance that needs to be struck.
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