Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • edited April 2020 Posts: 4,409
    suavejmf wrote: »
    Madden is worth a screen test IMO. He would need to tone down that ‘Glasgow drawl’ to a softer tone.

    You must be joking.

    The appeal of Madden is that accent. It's commanding, reassuring and damn sexy. If you made him to do a plain old English accent, it would suck the charisma out of his performance.



    Also, I'm convinced that Madden is not 5'10". Funnily enough here is a video of him with Arron Taylor-Johnson. Albeit they are sitting down, but you can tell from their frame that he's a smaller bloke. Though the video is 2 years old and he has seemingly filled out since.



    But, I'll give it to the Taylor-Johnson fans. He looks more like a credible Bond candidate. Maybe that's why I'm not so convinced. I think Barbara Broccoli thinks the same way....remember when she cast the part on her own she went for Daniel Craig. Someone much more edgy and rugged than any of Cubby's picks.

    I think Cubby would sway towards the Taylor-Johnson/Henry Cavill types. But I think Barbara likes the 'bad boys.' Considering her comments based on Craig, we all know she is going to cast someone not just a good actor but she is attracted to....someone who is a little more rough, surly and mean. Personally, if they could speed up Bond 26 for 2022, it wouldn't be too late to get either Michael Fassbender or Idris Elba. The best Bond's we never had.

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  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited April 2020 Posts: 5,970
    Some interesting observations there @Pierce2Daniel, although I do actually think Taylo-Johnson leans more into the edgy and rugged side that you describe, especially with some of his filmography, and while definitely has classic good looks, I think he could really get the attention of the producers with his ferocity and willingness to go there.

    Also forgot to mention that he's a Golden Globe winner. I also agree about Fassbender. He would've been brilliant. I think him and Johnson are very similar actually. Both gone down similar creative paths.

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    He's also got moves haha :D



    Also had you seen this set pic from Tenet @Pierce2Daniel??
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  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    Fassbender, sure. Elba? Not in a million years. Even putting the race argument aside, I find his style of acting far more suited to a villain or henchman. He's cocky and tough alright, but he's not sauve or cool. He'd be a borderline unlikeable Bond, the same way his Luthor is borderline unlikeable.

    Thankfully, it seems that ship has definitely sailed and it very much is too late for him.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited April 2020 Posts: 5,970
    Fassbender, sure. Elba? Not in a million years. Even putting the race argument aside, I find his style of acting far more suited to a villain or henchman. He's cocky and tough alright, but he's not sauve or cool. He'd be a borderline unlikeable Bond, the same way his Luthor is borderline unlikeable.

    Thankfully, it seems that ship has definitely sailed and it very much is too late for him.
    I think so too @CraigMooreOHMSS, I've never really gelled with him as an actor.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    edited April 2020 Posts: 8,217
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Fassbender, sure. Elba? Not in a million years. Even putting the race argument aside, I find his style of acting far more suited to a villain or henchman. He's cocky and tough alright, but he's not sauve or cool. He'd be a borderline unlikeable Bond, the same way his Luthor is borderline unlikeable.

    Thankfully, it seems that ship has definitely sailed and it very much is too late for him.
    I think so too @CraigMooreOHMSS, I've never really gelled with him as an actor.

    Well, to clarify....

    I love Luthor because he possesses that unlikeable quality. I think Elba is perfect for that part. He brings similar qualities to other parts and it works to varying degrees, so it's not always a bad thing. However, it certainly wouldn't be what I want from Bond.
    You must be joking.

    The appeal of Madden is that accent. It's commanding, reassuring and damn sexy. If you made him to do a plain old English accent, it would suck the charisma out of his performance.

    Good job that's not what was suggested, then! ;)
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    Madden is worth a screen test IMO. He would need to tone down that ‘Glasgow drawl’ to a softer tone.

    I didn't actually realise he was Scottish until after I'd seen him in a couple of things, so he can tone the accent down for sure. The first thing I ever saw him in was The Take, where he played an American opposite Idris Elba's CIA agent.

    He’s extremely broad Scottish in interviews and ‘The Bodyguard.’ I cant remember him having a Scottish accent in GOT as you say.

    Yeah, it was nice to hear his natural accent in The Bodyguard. It would actually nice to hear a bit of that Scottish twang in Bond again, but softened, as you mentioned.

    And as I said before, they could make a lot of marketing on casting a Scot as Bond.
  • Regarding Fassbender, although he is not what I imagine to be Eon's first choice at all, he could always appear as a potential contender depending on the direction the franchise would take after Craig's departure. In my mind, Bond 26 will necessarily be a soft-reboot and will distance itself from the previous movies; however, I may be wrong and if Barbara Broccoli wishes to continue with a loose sequel and a Bond which could clearly be identified as being the same as that interpreted by Craig, Fassbender could be the man for the job. I highly doubt that this is the direction that would be take, but it's still a possibility.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited April 2020 Posts: 5,970
    Regarding Fassbender, although he is not what I imagine to be Eon's first choice at all, he could always appear as a potential contender depending on the direction the franchise would take after Craig's departure. In my mind, Bond 26 will necessarily be a soft-reboot and will distance itself from the previous movies; however, I may be wrong and if Barbara Broccoli wishes to continue with a loose sequel and a Bond which could clearly be identified as being the same as that interpreted by Craig, Fassbender could be the man for the job. I highly doubt that this is the direction that would be take, but it's still a possibility.
    It's definitely possible @Herr_Stockmann , although I think narratively with how the films have worked it would make more sense to reboot it, but you never know. Also I'm sorry people who are bothered by me going on about it but I whipped up a little head swap for Aaron Taylor-Johnson :) He's actually giving off a bit of a Fassbender vibe here tbh.

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  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    Madden is worth a screen test IMO. He would need to tone down that ‘Glasgow drawl’ to a softer tone.

    I didn't actually realise he was Scottish until after I'd seen him in a couple of things, so he can tone the accent down for sure. The first thing I ever saw him in was The Take, where he played an American opposite Idris Elba's CIA agent.

    He’s extremely broad Scottish in interviews and ‘The Bodyguard.’ I cant remember him having a Scottish accent in GOT as you say.

    Yeah, it was nice to hear his natural accent in The Bodyguard. It would actually nice to hear a bit of that Scottish twang in Bond again, but softened, as you mentioned.

    And as I said before, they could make a lot of marketing on casting a Scot as Bond.

    Absolutely.
  • Denbigh wrote: »
    He's actually giving off a bit of a Fassbender vibe here tbh.

    In terms of career choice, the two have things in common, although Taylor-Johnson seems to be doing better. I'm still pretty sad to see that Fassbender has no real plans for the next few years, while not long ago he appeared to be the darling of some Hollywood auteurs (McQueen, Boyle). Physically, he seems closer to Craig than really to the character as he is generally considered, which pushed me to think of him as a successor if Eon sought to continue the series in the form of loose sequels to the last movies. But I agree with you: narratively, it would make more sense to (soft-)reboot the franchise.
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
    edited April 2020 Posts: 1,318
    Denbigh wrote: »
    I do not particularly grasp your need for 'new and fresh' however. We haven't had true Bond, imo, for quite a while now. It'd be new and fresh to have him back!
    Again, I get you, but this true Bond you speak of has become outdated to a lot of audiences (not saying myself), and a lot of the franchise was redefined by the Craig-era, which has kept people interested, brought in new audiences, and will be very difficult to just move on from...

    ...but there are also fans that are tired of the way James Bond has been in general. Let's be honest. They love it, but they feel let down by what they've been getting, but also want something new. If that makes sense.

    I think this next-era is gonna need to take everything into account; the fans like you who want a "true" Bond, fans who love the Craig-era, and fans who want something "fresh and new" to keep them interested. I don't envy EON on this one.

    Also it seems to me the actors are always defined by the era of filmmaking so we'll see what the business is like when it comes round to casting. What's gonna be trending? In 2005 it was darker, more realistic origin stories, which lead to Casino Royale.

    Frankly I do not care about new audiences. Perhaps these new audiences have been exposed too much to Ethan Hunt or Jason Bourne type of action, which Craig emulates as well. At this point I feel like I'm repeating myself. Do I, in a way, feel more entitled about Bond than general audiences? Yes, I do and for a plethora of reasons at that. We've both made our points, let's leave it at that for now.
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    Also had you seen this set pic from Tenet @Pierce2Daniel??
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    Interesting...is Aaron Taylor-Johnson a villain in Tenet? I'll be very interested to see how he turns out in that film. In fact, Tom Hardy broke out with his appearance in Nolan's Inception. Perhaps the same fate awaits Taylor-Johnson.

    This short 8 minute spoof of Bodyguard further cements Madden in my mind as the favourite....as to whether he is my preferred choice is another matter. But clearly from the time they shot Bodyguard to the time they made this spoof, he matured greatly:

  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited April 2020 Posts: 5,970
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Also had you seen this set pic from Tenet @Pierce2Daniel??
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    Interesting...is Aaron Taylor-Johnson a villain in Tenet? I'll be very interested to see how he turns out in that film. In fact, Tom Hardy broke out with his appearance in Nolan's Inception. Perhaps the same fate awaits Taylor-Johnson.
    It certainly seems that way haha, and yeah I'm very intrigued. I suppose if we can't have another Tenet star, Pattinson, as Bond, Johnson could very well be the next best thing.
  • I find Taylor-Johnson to be a chameleon actor - looking at his filmography, I've seen over a dozen films with him but I wouldn't necessarily recognize that it's the same guy. While he can blend in into the atmosphere of any film he stars in and would surely make for an excellent spy, I don't think he has the leading man qualities to play Bond. Anna Karenina and Godzilla are examples of that.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Yeah, it was nice to hear his natural accent in The Bodyguard. It would actually nice to hear a bit of that Scottish twang in Bond again, but softened, as you mentioned.

    If you'd like to hear the return of the Scottish burr then check out Stuart Martin.


    This is a good suggestion. One of very few here.
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    The idea of returning cinematic Bond to his Scottish roots is an appealing one. Maybe Madden is the one to do it. Not 100% convinced but there are worse suggestions
  • DrClatterhandDrClatterhand United Kingdom
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    Just checked out Stuart Martin. Very good suggestion.
  • edited April 2020 Posts: 6,709
    What about Sam Heughan? He has auditioned back in 2005 or so, but he was 26 back then. Maybe a tad too tall for the role?

  • Stuart Martin with his dicky out and rocking a Connery vibe.

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    Stuart Martin with his dicky out and rocking a Connery vibe.


    Sold. Inspired choice. Just give the man a shave.
  • Univex wrote: »
    Stuart Martin with his dicky out and rocking a Connery vibe.


    Sold. Inspired choice. Just give the man a shave.

    Certainly can see him as Bond without the beard. Not seen him in anything though so not sure what he's like as an actor.
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    Stuart Martin with his dicky out and rocking a Connery vibe.


    But how old does he look without the beard?
  • edited April 2020 Posts: 6,709
    M_Blaise wrote: »
    Stuart Martin with his dicky out and rocking a Connery vibe.


    But how old does he look without the beard?

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  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    I'm on board with this suggestion.
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    I'm on board with this suggestion.

    He sure has the eyebrows. And the hair.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Univex wrote: »
    I'm on board with this suggestion.

    He sure has the eyebrows. And the hair.

    I find him to be in the category of actors who needs a beard ; without it he has a weak jawline and chin. The beard compensated for this and makes a huge difference in this case.

  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
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    He resembles Hugh Jackman 😅. If we want Jackman why not get the original one? Although he does looks good but have to see how he looks without beard.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    edited April 2020 Posts: 8,217
    He resembles Hugh Jackman 😅. If we want Jackman why not get the original one? Although he does looks good but have to see how he looks without beard.

    That’s him right above. The beard makes a big difference.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
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    talos7 wrote: »
    He resembles Hugh Jackman 😅. If we want Jackman why not get the original one? Although he does looks good but have to see how he looks without beard.

    That’s him right above. The beard makes a big difference.

    It does , sadly there aren't many pics of him without beard. Have seen him in Robin hood and didn't find him much interesting.
  • Martin seems to have been permanently bearded since he was in Crossing Lines at just 28 years old. (He's now 34). Any pic of him shaven is likely to be from this period. It's frustrating that there isn't a recent pic of him without a beard but it isn't hard to imagine him without one. Episodes of season 3 of Crossing Lines are available on YouTube and I'm not seeing a jawline problem. I wouldn't have pegged him as Bond from this show but he's matured well and it's what he looks like now that counts.

    He's biggest problem is that his profile isn't high enough at the moment, but he seems to be an actor on the up so the next few years may change that. I still favour Aidan Turner at the moment but I believe that Martin has the best Bond look out there.
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