Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I would imagine their preference is always to get someone below 40 if they can, even though they've only managed it half the time! The only real question is if they want to go even younger than 30: would they do Bond Begins again?
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited May 2020 Posts: 5,970
    mtm wrote: »
    I would imagine their preference is always to get someone below 40 if they can, even though they've only managed it half the time! The only real question is if they want to go even younger than 30: would they do Bond Begins again?
    I think any younger than 30 depends on the actor. I don't think they should do "Bond Begins" again. I think they should do what The Batman is doing, get an actor in his 30s and do a James Bond whose been 007 for a couple of years and do stand-alone missions - maybe with a bit of an arc. Then you can watch the actor grow and become even more of the seasoned agent without having to address it.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited May 2020 Posts: 16,401
    Denbigh wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I would imagine their preference is always to get someone below 40 if they can, even though they've only managed it half the time! The only real question is if they want to go even younger than 30: would they do Bond Begins again?
    I think any younger than 30 depends on the actor. I don't think they should do "Bond Begins" again. I think they should do what The Batman is doing, get an actor in his 30s and do a James Bond whose been 007 for a couple of years and do stand-alone missions - maybe with a bit of an arc.

    Yeah, tend to agree about the origin thing, unless they have an original angle on it which is very different from CR. I can't think of a version which wouldn't feel like a retread in some way, but I'm not a movie writer so maybe they can!
    :)
    My preference would be perhaps go a little more Roger: I wouldn't mind something of the tone of Mission Impossible Rogue Nation.

    When you say standalone missions how do you mean?
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited May 2020 Posts: 5,970
    mtm wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I would imagine their preference is always to get someone below 40 if they can, even though they've only managed it half the time! The only real question is if they want to go even younger than 30: would they do Bond Begins again?
    I think any younger than 30 depends on the actor. I don't think they should do "Bond Begins" again. I think they should do what The Batman is doing, get an actor in his 30s and do a James Bond whose been 007 for a couple of years and do stand-alone missions - maybe with a bit of an arc.
    When you say standalone missions how do you mean?
    Just something more akin to the films before. So we have the classic recurring characters here and there, like Felix Leiter, who I'd like to see as a bit older than Bond to create a new dynamic, but each film doesn't revolve around an overall arc like the Craig-era did. There's continuity but each film has it's own mission with its own characters.

    Overall, I'm just a big believer in that if they want to make things feel fresh and new, and bring new audiences on board with the next era as every producer wants, while honouring the original fans, an actor in his 30s is the better way to go. For me, that choice would be Callum Turner or Aaron Taylor-Johnson, but I do understand people's concerns - at this moment in time.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I would imagine their preference is always to get someone below 40 if they can, even though they've only managed it half the time! The only real question is if they want to go even younger than 30: would they do Bond Begins again?
    I think any younger than 30 depends on the actor. I don't think they should do "Bond Begins" again. I think they should do what The Batman is doing, get an actor in his 30s and do a James Bond whose been 007 for a couple of years and do stand-alone missions - maybe with a bit of an arc.
    When you say standalone missions how do you mean?
    Just something more akin to the films before. So we have the classic recurring characters here and there, like Felix Leiter, who I'd like to see as a bit older than Bond to create a new dynamic, but each film doesn't revolve around an overall arc like the Craig-era did. There's continuity but each film has it's own mission with its own characters.

    Oh right. To be honest I don't think the Craig films really spin much around their arc: Quantum is a sequel to Casino, but the other two are as standalone as you like. NTTD carries on from where Spectre left Bond but I don't see the problem with that.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited May 2020 Posts: 5,970
    mtm wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I would imagine their preference is always to get someone below 40 if they can, even though they've only managed it half the time! The only real question is if they want to go even younger than 30: would they do Bond Begins again?
    I think any younger than 30 depends on the actor. I don't think they should do "Bond Begins" again. I think they should do what The Batman is doing, get an actor in his 30s and do a James Bond whose been 007 for a couple of years and do stand-alone missions - maybe with a bit of an arc.
    When you say standalone missions how do you mean?
    Just something more akin to the films before. So we have the classic recurring characters here and there, like Felix Leiter, who I'd like to see as a bit older than Bond to create a new dynamic, but each film doesn't revolve around an overall arc like the Craig-era did. There's continuity but each film has it's own mission with its own characters.

    Oh right. To be honest I don't think the Craig films really spin much around their arc: Quantum is a sequel to Casino, but the other two are as standalone as you like. NTTD carries on from where Spectre left Bond but I don't see the problem with that.
    I actually think they did. Spectre tied everything together, unnecessarily when you consider what they did with Raoul Silva, and left them with no choice but to carry it on in No Time to Die.

    My advice if they wanna keep doing overarching storylines is just to plan it better - if you're gonna do it.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,401
    Denbigh wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I would imagine their preference is always to get someone below 40 if they can, even though they've only managed it half the time! The only real question is if they want to go even younger than 30: would they do Bond Begins again?
    I think any younger than 30 depends on the actor. I don't think they should do "Bond Begins" again. I think they should do what The Batman is doing, get an actor in his 30s and do a James Bond whose been 007 for a couple of years and do stand-alone missions - maybe with a bit of an arc.
    When you say standalone missions how do you mean?
    Just something more akin to the films before. So we have the classic recurring characters here and there, like Felix Leiter, who I'd like to see as a bit older than Bond to create a new dynamic, but each film doesn't revolve around an overall arc like the Craig-era did. There's continuity but each film has it's own mission with its own characters.

    Oh right. To be honest I don't think the Craig films really spin much around their arc: Quantum is a sequel to Casino, but the other two are as standalone as you like. NTTD carries on from where Spectre left Bond but I don't see the problem with that.
    I actually think they did. Spectre tied everything together, unnecessarily when you consider what they did with Raoul Silva, and left them with no choice but to carry it on in No Time to Die.

    My advice if they wanna keep doing overarching storylines is just to plan it better - if you're gonna do it.

    Yeah they should do it better, but Skyfall was standalone. I'm struggling with what the problem with tying them together is though? Is it just that they you think they didn't plan it well enough?
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited May 2020 Posts: 5,970
    mtm wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I would imagine their preference is always to get someone below 40 if they can, even though they've only managed it half the time! The only real question is if they want to go even younger than 30: would they do Bond Begins again?
    I think any younger than 30 depends on the actor. I don't think they should do "Bond Begins" again. I think they should do what The Batman is doing, get an actor in his 30s and do a James Bond whose been 007 for a couple of years and do stand-alone missions - maybe with a bit of an arc.
    When you say standalone missions how do you mean?
    Just something more akin to the films before. So we have the classic recurring characters here and there, like Felix Leiter, who I'd like to see as a bit older than Bond to create a new dynamic, but each film doesn't revolve around an overall arc like the Craig-era did. There's continuity but each film has it's own mission with its own characters.

    Oh right. To be honest I don't think the Craig films really spin much around their arc: Quantum is a sequel to Casino, but the other two are as standalone as you like. NTTD carries on from where Spectre left Bond but I don't see the problem with that.
    I actually think they did. Spectre tied everything together, unnecessarily when you consider what they did with Raoul Silva, and left them with no choice but to carry it on in No Time to Die.

    My advice if they wanna keep doing overarching storylines is just to plan it better - if you're gonna do it.
    Yeah they should do it better, but Skyfall was standalone. I'm struggling with what the problem with tying them together is though? Is it just that they you think they didn't plan it well enough?
    It was a full standalone until Spectre implied he was a member of SPECTRE, which for me, ruined the impact Silva's villain had as a standalone villain who wasn't a part of any organisation, and was just working to his own ends, and yeah I think the way they tied it all together was very tenuous and rushed.

    It was also an obvious covering of tracks as opposed to a genuine interesting concept to tie up Quantum. I would've preferred they just left it.
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    It's for the controversial opinion thread, but I find that Silva working at least with knowledge and consent of Spectre making more sense. Otherwise he'd have a lot of henchmen hired for a suicide mission for no obvious benefits for them but a very personal vendetta. In any case, I always understood that Raoul Silva was a freelance cyberterrorist working for Spectre on a contractual basis, not as an employee.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited May 2020 Posts: 5,970
    Ludovico wrote: »
    It's for the controversial opinion thread, but I find that Silva working at least with knowledge and consent of Spectre making more sense. Otherwise he'd have a lot of henchmen hired for a suicide mission for no obvious benefits for them but a very personal vendetta. In any case, I always understood that Raoul Silva was a freelance cyberterrorist working for Spectre on a contractual basis, not as an employee.
    When put that like that it's definitely interesting; but I do think something like this really should've been better explained/explored. Again, as it was presented, the link was too tenuous.

    I also think I would've preferred one or the other, SPECTRE being connected to Silva or SPECTRE being connected to Quantum, but not both.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    I still say Skyfall is the only true standalone film of the Craig era. Wraps itself up and doesn’t rely on any knowledge gained from previous films. CR is also basically standalone, but leaves a loose end with White that asks to be wrapped up. QoS and SP definitely are not because they require information from previous films to really make sense.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited May 2020 Posts: 5,970
    Has anyone suggested Ben Aldridge? He's in Our Girl, Pennyworth and he was also in Fleabag.

    He's currently 34. 6' 1".

    https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3198781/?ref_=nmls_hd

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  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    Has anyone suggested Ben Aldridge? He's in Our Girl, Pennyworth and he was also in Fleabag.

    He's currently 34. 6' 1".

    https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3198781/?ref_=nmls_hd

    2017-04-07_184146_p024n7dt.jpg
    Pennyworth-feature.jpg

    I could definitely be on board.
  • Posts: 15,121
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    It's for the controversial opinion thread, but I find that Silva working at least with knowledge and consent of Spectre making more sense. Otherwise he'd have a lot of henchmen hired for a suicide mission for no obvious benefits for them but a very personal vendetta. In any case, I always understood that Raoul Silva was a freelance cyberterrorist working for Spectre on a contractual basis, not as an employee.
    When put that like that it's definitely interesting; but I do think something like this really should've been better explained/explored. Again, as it was presented, the link was too tenuous.

    I also think I would've preferred one or the other, SPECTRE being connected to Silva or SPECTRE being connected to Quantum, but not both.

    I think both made sense. An organisation the size and power of Spectre must have either controlled or be born from Quantum, and on a meta level Quantum was merely used because Spectre could not at the time. For Silva, even as a pure independent hacker Spectre must have at least known about it. And something that always irked me about SF pre SP was why would henchmen follow Silva so eagerly in a risky personal vendetta. It could of course be explained by fear and indoctrination, but I always thought the link with Spectre made the scheme profitable at some level.

    That said, yes, it was glossed over far too quickly.
  • edited May 2020 Posts: 6,709
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Has anyone suggested Ben Aldridge? He's in Our Girl, Pennyworth and he was also in Fleabag.

    He's currently 34. 6' 1".

    https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3198781/?ref_=nmls_hd

    2017-04-07_184146_p024n7dt.jpg
    Pennyworth-feature.jpg

    I could definitely be on board.

    Me too. Brilliant suggestion. I'd have to hear his voice, though. But well done.

    Edit: Heard his voice. Definitely would do. Good eyebrow game too.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited May 2020 Posts: 5,970
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    It's for the controversial opinion thread, but I find that Silva working at least with knowledge and consent of Spectre making more sense. Otherwise he'd have a lot of henchmen hired for a suicide mission for no obvious benefits for them but a very personal vendetta. In any case, I always understood that Raoul Silva was a freelance cyberterrorist working for Spectre on a contractual basis, not as an employee.
    When put that like that it's definitely interesting; but I do think something like this really should've been better explained/explored. Again, as it was presented, the link was too tenuous.

    I also think I would've preferred one or the other, SPECTRE being connected to Silva or SPECTRE being connected to Quantum, but not both.

    I think both made sense. An organisation the size and power of Spectre must have either controlled or be born from Quantum, and on a meta level Quantum was merely used because Spectre could not at the time. For Silva, even as a pure independent hacker Spectre must have at least known about it. And something that always irked me about SF pre SP was why would henchmen follow Silva so eagerly in a risky personal vendetta. It could of course be explained by fear and indoctrination, but I always thought the link with Spectre made the scheme profitable at some level.

    That said, yes, it was glossed over far too quickly.
    I can understand that @Ludovico. In a better world, they would've known about this connection when they made Skyfall so it could've been better telegraphed.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,401
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Has anyone suggested Ben Aldridge? He's in Our Girl, Pennyworth and he was also in Fleabag.

    He's currently 34. 6' 1".

    https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3198781/?ref_=nmls_hd

    2017-04-07_184146_p024n7dt.jpg
    Pennyworth-feature.jpg

    Oh yes, good thought; I've seen him in a few things. Not sure I've seen him play a lead yet but he's always seemed decent.
  • edited May 2020 Posts: 6,709
    How come we've never heard about him here in the forums? Guy'd be perfect for it.
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    I prefer Jack Bannon as 007 of we are taking from pennyworth
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    Risico007 wrote: »
    I prefer Jack Bannon as 007 of we are taking from pennyworth

    Also not bad.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Risico007 wrote: »
    I prefer Jack Bannon as 007 of we are taking from pennyworth

    I agree, and as with Hoult , a few more years of maturing will improve his chances.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    Posts: 5,970
    talos7 wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    I prefer Jack Bannon as 007 of we are taking from pennyworth

    I agree, and as with Hoult , a few more years of maturing will improve his chances.
    Exactly how I feel about Callum ;)
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    I'm really liking Hoult in The Great. I really think he could mature in the role of Bond.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,209
    Denbigh wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    I prefer Jack Bannon as 007 of we are taking from pennyworth

    I agree, and as with Hoult , a few more years of maturing will improve his chances.
    Exactly how I feel about Callum ;)
    👍🏼
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited May 2020 Posts: 5,970
    Univex wrote: »
    How come we've never heard about him here in the forums? Guy'd be perfect for it.
    You approve of the voice too? I know how important it is for you my friend haha :)
    Edit: Just saw your other message haha but he definitely could be one to keep an eye on

    I particularly like this picture. Take out the moustache and it could be Bond...

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  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    A great voice is very impressive, and unfortunately so lacking in many young actors.
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
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    I quite like Aldridge, but he's behind A. Turner in my book. Turner has it all, Aldridge lacking a few qualities.
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
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    Apologies on making my first post here on such a heated topic, but it's the one that interests me at the moment, and I've already bored people at the other forums I'm a part of with my opinion on the subject.

    I've come around to thinking that Henry Cavill would be the safest choice for Bond. He's not exciting, but he ticks most of the boxes. I've started to look at the casting of the new Bond like a game of Top Trumps, with scores in categories like Acting Power/Credibility, Good Looks, Physical Credibility, Accent/Class Credibility, and PR Factor. I think Cavill scores reasonably well across the board, with his weakness being that he's never tried to stretch his acting ability out of the Handsome Leading Man roles. Like most of the actors often talked about, though, time is not on his side.

    I'd love to see what Dan Stevens would do with the role. I think he might have a problem with the bulking up part, though - when he worked out for The Guest (great turn from him in that) he actually lost weight, and I think that's because internet posters made fun of the double chin he occasionally sported on Downton Abbey; he dropped weight when he started working in the States, and I think that was in order to preserve his jawline. So he'd probably have the choice of being skinny with a well-defined jaw, or muscular but without a good jawline. He's a fantastic actor though. Just more of a gamble than Cavill.

    I like Aidan Turner, though like Cavill he's lumbered with being labelled a sex-symbol rather than a serious actor. I think he's got decent acting chops and could pull of pretty much what was asked of him in the role, but he doesn't have the serious acting credibility that Daniel Craig brought to the role. I think it's going to be difficult to find someone of the right age who has that and the looks to match and is in the right age category. Michael Fassbender would have been perfect, but I think he's aged out now, unfortunately.

    I know a few people have suggested we're probably looking at Nicholas Hoult, who I like better than a lot of other contenders and has youth on his side, and I think they're probably right. He's a bit soft-looking, but if the Mission Impossible team think he makes for a credible villain then he might be right for the part. He's actually much taller than I would have guessed, and he's played more than just hot-guy roles.

    This is all assuming that there still is a Bond franchise once Covid-19 has finished with it, of course. :-S
  • peterpeter Toronto
    edited May 2020 Posts: 9,509
    @sandbagger1 -- welcome man! Nice reviews of your picks.

    As an aside-- I heard Hoult is no longer in the next M:I films. "Scheduling" concerns...
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
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    peter wrote: »
    @sandbagger1 -- welcome man! Nice reviews of your picks.

    As an aside-- I heard Hoult is no longer in the next M:I films. "Scheduling" concerns...

    Wow, hadn't heard that. I guess there will be a fair amount of this kind of thing happening, what with the virus delaying shoots.
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