Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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    Anyone here watch the show Pennyworth? I'm kind of intrigued by Jack Bannon.




    That hairline, though :) Super strange. But yes, count me in as intrigued as well.
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  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
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    mtm wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    @peter that's the factor I was trying to convey: sex appeal! Haven't seen it in any candidate yet. You know what women would be like if an average looking actor was cast: "Uh, he's too ugly to be James Bond." It's a visual medium after all.

    I find that too @DewiWynBond ... some are pretty, some handsome, some are just plain eek. None has exhibited genuine sex appeal. They hide behind five o’clock shadows and the “intense” glares....

    It's a shame some folks think their opinions are facts, but I would say it's hard to be so certain: Aiden Turner certainly seemed to get a few pulses racing as Poldark (and didn't seem to be off the tabloid front pages in the first couple of series!) so I wouldn't like to say he hasn't got any 'sexy' factor.

    This is true. I've yet to see a single frame of Poldark, but I have seen Turner on the cover of magazines both fully clothed and not. Women love him.

    Yeah, I don’t know if he has the presence to lead a movie, and maybe it’s hard to go too wrong with Poldark’s bad boy, Mills & Boon stylings, but he certainly made it work more than it usually does to give it sex appeal. For example Ioan Gruffudd (I’m sure mentioned for Bond as well occasionally) played another Poldark in the 90s but didn’t create any stir at all as far as I can remember.
    I’d still need to see him be an effective lead in a movie first though before I’d want him for Bond.
    peter wrote: »
    @mtm-- passive-aggressive remarks don't suit you.

    This was my opinion.

    I do think A.Turner is very handsome.

    I was talking about the three Bonds I think have great sex appeal and the three that don't. My opinion.

    I also haven't felt that intangible with any of the candidates mentioned so far. I didn't focus on A. Turner. He's just one of many handsome men, who I feel, doesn't exude sex appeal.

    That's all.

    You know?

    Sure, and all of that... Move on.

    Also as an EDIT @MTM: "sexy" and "sex appeal" can be defined as two separate things: A. Turner is appealing to the eye. DC just oozes sex... as Connery and Lazenby did.

    Moore, Brosnan, Dalton, in my eyes, as I stated (and you conveniently left out), just don't.

    And neither do any of the men we've listed so far (outside of Idris Elba).

    I reckon what @mtm meant to say is it's handy to throw in a 'to me' or 'imo' into the mix once every few sentences, as your reply was heavily laden with strong opinions.

    Sorry to burst your bubble, but I don't know any male or female who finds Craig attractive, let alone that he "oozes sex appeal". Craig still looks like a Russian bouncer to me and not Bond, as to many others.

    Well you just had to be around when CR came out to see how women reacted to him. They even made a lolly of him! :)

    Women of a certain class I'm sure. Craig looks hardly sophisticated. A blunt instrument, indeed.
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    Anyone here watch the show Pennyworth? I'm kind of intrigued by Jack Bannon.




    He looks like a poor man's James Bond. Is that his audition?

    Haven't seen the show, but this looks pretty silly.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    mtm wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    @mtm-- passive-aggressive remarks don't suit you.

    This was my opinion.

    I do think A.Turner is very handsome.

    I was talking about the three Bonds I think have great sex appeal and the three that don't. My opinion.

    I also haven't felt that intangible with any of the candidates mentioned so far. I didn't focus on A. Turner. He's just one of many handsome men, who I feel, doesn't exude sex appeal.

    That's all.

    You know?

    Sure, and all of that... Move on.

    Also as an EDIT @MTM: "sexy" and "sex appeal" can be defined as two separate things: A. Turner is appealing to the eye. DC just oozes sex... as Connery and Lazenby did.

    Moore, Brosnan, Dalton, in my eyes, as I stated (and you conveniently left out), just don't.

    And neither do any of the men we've listed so far (outside of Idris Elba).

    Sure.

    There ya go, buddy! Not so hard, is it, lol!
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  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Women of a certain class I'm sure. Craig looks hardly sophisticated. A blunt instrument, indeed.
    Dude, GQ ranked Daniel Craig at #36 in the best dressed category,lol. Sure he looks a bit scruffy when he hasn't shaved, but he look imaculate in the Bond suits.

    It's a sweeping statement. I suppose my educated wife is of a certain class-- as is my Mum and any other fine ladies in my life. I'm not calling them Bond die-hards, but they certainly paid more attention to Bond once the man rose out of the ocean in CR.
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
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    Women of a certain class I'm sure. Craig looks hardly sophisticated. A blunt instrument, indeed.
    Dude, GQ ranked Daniel Craig at #36 in the best dressed category,lol. Sure he looks a bit scruffy when he hasn't shaved, but he look imaculate in the Bond suits.

    Who cares about GQ? I am voicing my and many other people their opinion, that is all. Craig looks particularly short in his suit, because he is quite short and has the build of a boxer, hence he could easily play a stocky Russian bouncer or preferably a KGB agent. Come to think of it, he could have been THE coolest henchman Bond has ever faced. Some nigh indestructible Russian super agent.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    edited June 2020 Posts: 45,489
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Anyone here watch the show Pennyworth? I'm kind of intrigued by Jack Bannon.




    He looks like a poor man's James Bond. Is that his audition?

    Haven't seen the show, but this looks pretty silly.

    The biggest issue is his voice. Except for the asthmatic Brosnan, they have all had great voices previously. When I say great, I mean manly, which I think is better suited to the cinematic Bond.
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    GadgetMan wrote: »
    I really do think Callum Turner looks like Hoagy Carmichael....Fleming's Description of What James Bond Should look like....Check out the Similarities in their Looks.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bond#/media/File:Hoagy_Carmichael_-_1947.jpg

    https://flaunt.com/content/callum-turner

    Notably Turner looks like a boy here, and Carmichael looks like a man.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    It's all subjective. It's why we have so many debates.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    @peter I agree with your assessment of the magnetism of each actor, although I think Dalton had it, until he took off his shirt. It really is shocking to see how slight he was.

    While not as chiseled as Craig, both Connery and Lazenby were physically imposing men; this added to their appeal . As the saying goes “women wanted to be with them, men wanted to be them”
    While magnetism is not exclusively linked to physicality, I believe Dalton would have joined the likes of Connery and Lazenby had he been more physically imposing, not “jacked” or “ripped” , just 10 to even 20 more, quality pounds.
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
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    M_Blaise wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    I really do think Callum Turner looks like Hoagy Carmichael....Fleming's Description of What James Bond Should look like....Check out the Similarities in their Looks.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bond#/media/File:Hoagy_Carmichael_-_1947.jpg

    https://flaunt.com/content/callum-turner

    Notably Turner looks like a boy here, and Carmichael looks like a man.

    Yeah, Remember Bond fans said something similar about Craig not looking the part, until he was seen in full 007-Mode in that Stylish Black & White Sequence from CR....we might be amazed to see how transformed Callum would look as Bond, from his very first scene if chosen.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    talos7 wrote: »
    @peter I agree with your assessment of the magnetism of each actor, although I think Dalton had it, until he took off his shirt. It really is shocking to see how slight he was.

    While not as chiseled as Craig, both Connery and Lazenby were physically imposing men; this added to their appeal . As the saying goes “women wanted to be with them, men wanted to be them”
    While magnetism is not exclusively linked to physicality, I believe Dalton would have joined the likes of Connery and Lazenby had he been more physically imposing, not “jacked” or “ripped” , just 10 to even 20 more, quality pounds.

    @talos7 -- we both know each other as health nuts, and I agree that Dalton seriously needed to gain some lean mass. It was remarkable how slight he was when he took his shirt off.

    I just found that he was quite uptight, too uptight, to have that raw sex appeal. That when he came into the room, and his hands are balled into fists, he didn't have that "thing". Granted, even with the hairstyle in LTK, when he marched into the casino and gave it a sweep of his eyes, he looked deadly.

    But I think he just misses out on the sex appeal; gaining lean mass would have certainly brought him closer, but not over the line. Relaxing and being confident in his every breath? That would have been nice-- IMO.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited June 2020 Posts: 5,970
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    M_Blaise wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    I really do think Callum Turner looks like Hoagy Carmichael....Fleming's Description of What James Bond Should look like....Check out the Similarities in their Looks.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bond#/media/File:Hoagy_Carmichael_-_1947.jpg

    https://flaunt.com/content/callum-turner

    Notably Turner looks like a boy here, and Carmichael looks like a man.

    Yeah, Remember Bond fans said something similar about Craig not looking the part, until he was seen in full 007-Mode in that Stylish Black & White Sequence from CR....we might be amazed to see how transformed Callum would look as Bond, from his very first scene if chosen.
    +1

    I'm sure Vogue would approve haha, "Emma’s Callum Turner Is Britain’s New Leading Man"
    https://www.vogue.co.uk/arts-and-lifestyle/article/callum-turner-emma
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    Who cares about GQ? I am voicing my and many other people their opinion, that is all. Craig looks particularly short in his suit, because he is quite short and has the build of a boxer, hence he could easily play a stocky Russian bouncer or preferably a KGB agent. Come to think of it, he could have been THE coolest henchman Bond has ever faced. Some nigh indestructible Russian super agent.
    Because it's one of top selling men's fashion magazine. You say Craig doesn't look sophisticated as Bond, but would look cool as a villain. Eh! At the end of the day, females love him.
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
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    Dalts no sex appeal? Ha. Sometimes it's about what you don't show, rather than show it all.

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  • peterpeter Toronto
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    @JeremyBondon -- he's an incredibly handsome fella. I have said before, the most handsome of the bunch, with Connery. But where Connery was magnetic, moved beautifully, and dripped with confidence, he clearly leaves Dalton in the dust. There's just no comparing real sex appeal to faux.

    It's like they say about pornography vs art: I know it when I see it.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited June 2020 Posts: 16,395
    mtm wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    @peter that's the factor I was trying to convey: sex appeal! Haven't seen it in any candidate yet. You know what women would be like if an average looking actor was cast: "Uh, he's too ugly to be James Bond." It's a visual medium after all.

    I find that too @DewiWynBond ... some are pretty, some handsome, some are just plain eek. None has exhibited genuine sex appeal. They hide behind five o’clock shadows and the “intense” glares....

    It's a shame some folks think their opinions are facts, but I would say it's hard to be so certain: Aiden Turner certainly seemed to get a few pulses racing as Poldark (and didn't seem to be off the tabloid front pages in the first couple of series!) so I wouldn't like to say he hasn't got any 'sexy' factor.

    This is true. I've yet to see a single frame of Poldark, but I have seen Turner on the cover of magazines both fully clothed and not. Women love him.

    Yeah, I don’t know if he has the presence to lead a movie, and maybe it’s hard to go too wrong with Poldark’s bad boy, Mills & Boon stylings, but he certainly made it work more than it usually does to give it sex appeal. For example Ioan Gruffudd (I’m sure mentioned for Bond as well occasionally) played another Poldark in the 90s but didn’t create any stir at all as far as I can remember.
    I’d still need to see him be an effective lead in a movie first though before I’d want him for Bond.
    peter wrote: »
    @mtm-- passive-aggressive remarks don't suit you.

    This was my opinion.

    I do think A.Turner is very handsome.

    I was talking about the three Bonds I think have great sex appeal and the three that don't. My opinion.

    I also haven't felt that intangible with any of the candidates mentioned so far. I didn't focus on A. Turner. He's just one of many handsome men, who I feel, doesn't exude sex appeal.

    That's all.

    You know?

    Sure, and all of that... Move on.

    Also as an EDIT @MTM: "sexy" and "sex appeal" can be defined as two separate things: A. Turner is appealing to the eye. DC just oozes sex... as Connery and Lazenby did.

    Moore, Brosnan, Dalton, in my eyes, as I stated (and you conveniently left out), just don't.

    And neither do any of the men we've listed so far (outside of Idris Elba).

    I reckon what @mtm meant to say is it's handy to throw in a 'to me' or 'imo' into the mix once every few sentences, as your reply was heavily laden with strong opinions.

    Sorry to burst your bubble, but I don't know any male or female who finds Craig attractive, let alone that he "oozes sex appeal". Craig still looks like a Russian bouncer to me and not Bond, as to many others.

    Well you just had to be around when CR came out to see how women reacted to him. They even made a lolly of him! :)

    Women of a certain class I'm sure. Craig looks hardly sophisticated. A blunt instrument, indeed.

    Wow.
    You must have better taste in men I guess.
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    They scaled back on the romance n stuff for Dalton's movies, right? He was still a charmer!
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Anyone here watch the show Pennyworth? I'm kind of intrigued by Jack Bannon.




    I quite fancied watching that but it’s one of those pay-extra-to-watch-me shows. He looks familiar; could be a contender, sure, good suggestion.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited June 2020 Posts: 16,395
    peter wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    @peter I agree with your assessment of the magnetism of each actor, although I think Dalton had it, until he took off his shirt. It really is shocking to see how slight he was.

    While not as chiseled as Craig, both Connery and Lazenby were physically imposing men; this added to their appeal . As the saying goes “women wanted to be with them, men wanted to be them”
    While magnetism is not exclusively linked to physicality, I believe Dalton would have joined the likes of Connery and Lazenby had he been more physically imposing, not “jacked” or “ripped” , just 10 to even 20 more, quality pounds.

    @talos7 -- we both know each other as health nuts, and I agree that Dalton seriously needed to gain some lean mass. It was remarkable how slight he was when he took his shirt off.

    I just found that he was quite uptight, too uptight, to have that raw sex appeal. That when he came into the room, and his hands are balled into fists, he didn't have that "thing". Granted, even with the hairstyle in LTK, when he marched into the casino and gave it a sweep of his eyes, he looked deadly.

    But I think he just misses out on the sex appeal; gaining lean mass would have certainly brought him closer, but not over the line. Relaxing and being confident in his every breath? That would have been nice-- IMO.

    Yes I agree, I think he misses the confidence, swagger, self-assuredness Bond needs. Craig showed that you can have that as well as being fallible and human, and I think audiences found that very appealing. Whether that translates into ‘sexy’ I’m not best-placed to say, but I can imagine why Craig has been a bigger hit than Dalton was.
    I guess it’s back to the whole thing where Terence Young (was it?) watched Connery striding down the street after his audition and said he ‘walked like a panther’. I don’t think that’s something you could ever say of Dalton.
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    M_Blaise wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    I really do think Callum Turner looks like Hoagy Carmichael....Fleming's Description of What James Bond Should look like....Check out the Similarities in their Looks.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bond#/media/File:Hoagy_Carmichael_-_1947.jpg

    https://flaunt.com/content/callum-turner

    Notably Turner looks like a boy here, and Carmichael looks like a man.

    Yeah, Remember Bond fans said something similar about Craig not looking the part, until he was seen in full 007-Mode in that Stylish Black & White Sequence from CR....we might be amazed to see how transformed Callum would look as Bond, from his very first scene if chosen.
    +1

    I'm sure Vogue would approve haha, "Emma’s Callum Turner Is Britain’s New Leading Man"
    https://www.vogue.co.uk/arts-and-lifestyle/article/callum-turner-emma

    Cool....this guy really looks like James Bond, with every view.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    peter wrote: »
    @JeremyBondon -- he's an incredibly handsome fella. I have said before, the most handsome of the bunch, with Connery. But where Connery was magnetic, moved beautifully, and dripped with confidence, he clearly leaves Dalton in the dust. There's just no comparing real sex appeal to faux.

    It's like they say about pornography vs art: I know it when I see it.

    I agree, I am a big Dalton fan, as Bond, and as an actor in general, but he doesn’t quite have the relaxed masculinity of a Connery or , outside of Bond, an Eastwood.
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
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    talos7 wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    @JeremyBondon -- he's an incredibly handsome fella. I have said before, the most handsome of the bunch, with Connery. But where Connery was magnetic, moved beautifully, and dripped with confidence, he clearly leaves Dalton in the dust. There's just no comparing real sex appeal to faux.

    It's like they say about pornography vs art: I know it when I see it.

    I agree, I am a big Dalton fan, as Bond, and as an actor in general, but he doesn’t quite have the relaxed masculinity of a Connery or , outside of Bond, an Eastwood.

    That's probably also due to Dalts being a 'serious' type of actor and Connery indeed more relaxed, cracking jokes and smiles while he's at it. Connery scores extremely high on the charisma index. Both Dalts and Craig aren't in the same league.
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    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    M_Blaise wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    I really do think Callum Turner looks like Hoagy Carmichael....Fleming's Description of What James Bond Should look like....Check out the Similarities in their Looks.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bond#/media/File:Hoagy_Carmichael_-_1947.jpg

    https://flaunt.com/content/callum-turner

    Notably Turner looks like a boy here, and Carmichael looks like a man.

    Yeah, Remember Bond fans said something similar about Craig not looking the part, until he was seen in full 007-Mode in that Stylish Black & White Sequence from CR....we might be amazed to see how transformed Callum would look as Bond, from his very first scene if chosen.
    +1

    I'm sure Vogue would approve haha, "Emma’s Callum Turner Is Britain’s New Leading Man"
    https://www.vogue.co.uk/arts-and-lifestyle/article/callum-turner-emma

    Cool....this guy really looks like James Bond, with every view.

    Boyish looks. Doesn't suit short hair. Eddie Redmayne has a better chance...
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
    edited June 2020 Posts: 2,541
    Dalts no sex appeal? Ha. Sometimes it's about what you don't show, rather than show it all.

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    Exactly, too much showing off doesn't exactly makes someone sexually appealing. For example James bond series barely had nudity but despite that actor's delivered some really great sex scenes. Of all the actor's the most popular one amongst the ladies is Pierce brosnan, just go to any of his videos and see many Ladies bother to leave comment, and then go to other actor's, it's not really a great evidence but it does tell us something.

    Who cares about GQ? I am voicing my and many other people their opinion, that is all. Craig looks particularly short in his suit, because he is quite short and has the build of a boxer, hence he could easily play a stocky Russian bouncer or preferably a KGB agent. Come to think of it, he could have been THE coolest henchman Bond has ever faced. Some nigh indestructible Russian super agent.
    Because it's one of top selling men's fashion magazine. You say Craig doesn't look sophisticated as Bond, but would look cool as a villain. Eh! At the end of the day, females love him.

    That's because Craig's films have been really successful not because of sexual appeal. It's like saying that an actor's potential can be only seen if they get's nominated in oscars just because it's been considered best in the world but any honest man here knows how they work.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited June 2020 Posts: 5,970
    I enjoyed Dalton more in the show Penny Dreadful than I did when he was 007. His films never resonated with me either; they always felt like those American Saturday morning detective shows rather than a James Bond film. He had the look for sure, but beyond that, I was never much of a fan.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
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    Dalton is the only bond actor who actually reminds me of Fleming bond whenever i start reading his books. Sadly, he was stuck with John Glen and not so impressive scripts. Who knows how it would have improved with better director and scripts.
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
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    Who cares about GQ? I am voicing my and many other people their opinion, that is all. Craig looks particularly short in his suit, because he is quite short and has the build of a boxer, hence he could easily play a stocky Russian bouncer or preferably a KGB agent. Come to think of it, he could have been THE coolest henchman Bond has ever faced. Some nigh indestructible Russian super agent.
    Because it's one of top selling men's fashion magazine. You say Craig doesn't look sophisticated as Bond, but would look cool as a villain. Eh! At the end of the day, some females love him.

    You forgot the word some. Fixed it for you.
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