Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I think in The King Chalamet comes across as very stoic and physical, with an underlying athleticism. The way he responds to killing during battle, and also to killing in cold blood, is very Bondian. The trajectory of his character within the film is also similar to that of Bond in the film version of CR - from callow, to traumatised, to hardened killer.

    With his looks and youth, it would be a take on Bond that we haven't yet seen. But he certainly wouldnt be a safe choice, I get that.

    I just had a look at the trailer, I must admit it passed me by completely but it looks decent: I might have a watch of it tonight if it's still on Netflix. I agree, he looks pretty decent and tough in it. Maybe he'd bulk up a little for Bond but I can see him possibly working.
    Feels like an actor whose career is possibly a bit too interesting already to do it though.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Chalamet, going on from his performance in The King, has the poise, gravitas, stoicism, athleticism, and ability to perform cold blooded acts of violence (see how he deals with Sean Harris and Robert Pattinson in the film), but he lacks stature and at this moment in time, muscularity. He is also somewhat feminine and young looking.

    I feel like there's a spoiler in there for the film though! :D
    Heh, it's okay though- pretty much everyone tends to die in these sorts of films :)
    Looking at Aidan Turner, he seems to be the closest in terms of looks to the classical depiction of Bond. I haven't seen anything he has done though, so got no idea about his voice etc.

    Well he's not British, so that should rule him out on suavejmf's usual list of problems.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    mtm wrote: »
    I think in The King Chalamet comes across as very stoic and physical, with an underlying athleticism. The way he responds to killing during battle, and also to killing in cold blood, is very Bondian. The trajectory of his character within the film is also similar to that of Bond in the film version of CR - from callow, to traumatised, to hardened killer.

    With his looks and youth, it would be a take on Bond that we haven't yet seen. But he certainly wouldnt be a safe choice, I get that.
    Feels like an actor whose career is possibly a bit too interesting already to do it though.
    Another good point; again I think Dune has a lot to do with it. Like The Batman for Pattinson, I think if they are successful and they are able to do the trilogy they have planned, then I don’t think Chalamet will have the chance to get these kinds of roles.
  • FatherValentineFatherValentine England
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    It's a Netflix original, so should be there forever more. I really loved it.

    I am not saying he is a natural fit for Bond. Just that if it was tailored to his strengths, he could do a version of the role. It would be a risk though.
  • FatherValentineFatherValentine England
    edited June 2020 Posts: 737
    Sorry @mtm - didn't mean to. It doesn't play out exactly as you might think, anyway.

  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited June 2020 Posts: 16,395
    Denbigh wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I think in The King Chalamet comes across as very stoic and physical, with an underlying athleticism. The way he responds to killing during battle, and also to killing in cold blood, is very Bondian. The trajectory of his character within the film is also similar to that of Bond in the film version of CR - from callow, to traumatised, to hardened killer.

    With his looks and youth, it would be a take on Bond that we haven't yet seen. But he certainly wouldnt be a safe choice, I get that.
    Feels like an actor whose career is possibly a bit too interesting already to do it though.
    Another good point; again I think Dune has a lot to do with it. Like The Batman for Pattinson, I think if they are successful and they are able to do the trilogy they have planned, then I don’t think Chalamet will have the chance to get these kinds of roles.

    Yeah it's funny: we were lucky to get Craig because he's a really good actor, but one who wasn't having a great film career just by bad luck I guess. The likes of Tomb Raider and The Invasion weren't getting him anywhere.
    Sorry @mtm - didn't mean to. It doesn't play out exactly as you might think, anyway.

    Nah it's okay, I was only kidding: as I say- everyone gets sliced up in these things! :)
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited June 2020 Posts: 5,970
    To be honest after seeing The King, I’d definitely be up for seeing Robert Pattinson as a creepy villain, seeing as his candidacy for 007 is very unlikely at this point.

    And I mean both these franchises are yet to be determined in their success so anything could happen, but I’ll be very surprised if they’re not hugely successful.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,395
    Denbigh wrote: »
    To be honest after seeing The King, I’d definitely be up for seeing Robert Pattinson as a creepy villain, seeing as his candidacy for 007 is very unlikely at this point.

    That sounds a good idea, I could see that.

    I was thinking though it is about time for another female villain. Seems a bit weird we've only had one.
  • edited June 2020 Posts: 4,409
    Univex wrote: »
    First, a black 47 year old actor.
    Now, a skinny 24 year old American boy.

    Mind you, they are good actors and cool people, both of them. But what on earth have they got that makes them suitable for this role, @Pierce2Daniel. I know you like them. I do to. Well, I like Elba. A lot. The guy oozes charisma and cool. Chalamet is somewhat overrated IMO, but he'll get better, I believe, if he doesn't go for a decade long ego trip and bender. But why do you think they are good for this role? It just seems like you're picking people from diametrical opposite sides of the spectrum just to break the mould, or to go against the proverbial fur. Just as an exercise, who would you choose that is right on the money? An actor who just fits the bill. Who is as close as he could ever be to the classical depiction of this role? I'm genuinely curious about that, as so far you've only presented options that are jarringly chocking, to say the least.

    Anyway, an amicable proposal, if you will.

    I'm just spitballing. But if I had to offer a definitive take, I'd say that I see 3 feasible casting routes as so so much is dependent on the story for Bond 26:
    1. They may do a continuation of Craig's Bond or a softer reboot akin to CR. In which case, I suppose a white male actor in his 30's would be most appropriate. Perhaps someone like Jamie Dornan or Aidan Turner could work then.
    2. However, they could do a bold reinterpretation requiring a harder 'reboot'. Perhaps that story reboots the character and a new type of Bond is required. Then it would be feasible to imagine someone like Idris Elba or Sope Dirisu.
    3. Alternatively, they may do a 'Young Bond' style film where we see Bond get recruited. Then maybe someone like Timothee Chalamet or Harris Dickinson could be hired.

    Basically, we don't know the story yet for Bond 26, so I'm just suggesting people I think could do a good job. In the case of Dickinson and Chalamet they are two actors who might not get a look in now, but maybe in the future.

    Though having listened to the very interesting podcast from QOS's DOP Roberto Schaffer it is clear that Eon have a strict 'No Americans' policy. They wouldn't even let him hire his usual 'A' cameraman on that basis. So an American Bond might be blasphemous at Eon. Though they did hire an American director in CJF...So times are changing.

    I just see potential in the guy...he doesn't have it yet. but there's something there.

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    Much in the same way, that when Zack Snyder cast Henry Cavill as Superman he had the potential but even from his audition you could see he wasn't entirely there yet. Just look at his audition photo below:

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    mtm wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I think in The King Chalamet comes across as very stoic and physical, with an underlying athleticism. The way he responds to killing during battle, and also to killing in cold blood, is very Bondian. The trajectory of his character within the film is also similar to that of Bond in the film version of CR - from callow, to traumatised, to hardened killer.

    With his looks and youth, it would be a take on Bond that we haven't yet seen. But he certainly wouldnt be a safe choice, I get that.
    Feels like an actor whose career is possibly a bit too interesting already to do it though.
    Another good point; again I think Dune has a lot to do with it. Like The Batman for Pattinson, I think if they are successful and they are able to do the trilogy they have planned, then I don’t think Chalamet will have the chance to get these kinds of roles.

    Yeah it's funny: we were lucky to get Craig because he's a really good actor, but one who wasn't having a great film career just by bad luck I guess. The likes of Tomb Raider and The Invasion weren't getting him anywhere.
    Sorry @mtm - didn't mean to. It doesn't play out exactly as you might think, anyway.

    Nah it's okay, I was only kidding: as I say- everyone gets sliced up in these things! :)

    I contest this. Craig wasn't a 'movie star' in 2006, but he was a name on the British indie film scene starring in stuff like The Mother, Enduring Love, Layer Cake, Sylvia.

    They were the films that got Barbara Broccoli's attention.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited June 2020 Posts: 5,970
    mtm wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    To be honest after seeing The King, I’d definitely be up for seeing Robert Pattinson as a creepy villain, seeing as his candidacy for 007 is very unlikely at this point.
    I was thinking though it is about time for another female villain. Seems a bit weird we've only had one.
    Yeah that would be cool; or even just a proper femme-fatale henchwoman would be more than welcome. It’s a shame that it seems Craig never really got one, unless Paloma surprises us in No Time to Die.

    Although I’ve also always been partial for the Bond franchise to introduce a female character that’s more of a anti-heroine, kinda like Catwoman. Not the classic “bad-girl-turns-good” cliche, but a Bond girl that you can’t pin point on either side, making her unprecitable and creating a cool dynamic between Bond and a new Bond girl. Also if they could get someone like Jodie Comer to play her... then damn.

    Although to keep on topic Jodie would look very good on screen besides Callum Turner as 007 haha ;)
    I contest this. Craig wasn't a 'movie star' in 2006, but he was a name on the British indie film scene starring in stuff like The Mother, Enduring Love, Layer Cake, Sylvia. They were the films that got Barbara Broccoli's attention.
    A fair point there @Pierce2Daniel, but again with that in mind, I think the point still remains that Chalamet may be too overexposed and too busy. I know we’ve got a while yet, but how long will Chalamet be working on Dune for if the trilogy goes as planned? And what projects would he want to do inbetween? He likes doing small independent films more than the big budget stuff so it’s definitely something worth considering.

    Although, like Pattinson, Chalamet could be a good future villain.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    I have given my reasons why Chalamet could (emphasis on could - as the thread's title indicates) do the role.

    I am not a Craig fan necessarily. I believe he has given his all, takes it seriously, but his look really lets him down. Just my opinion. I accept that he has other qualities that make him appropriate for James Bond. Either way, they have tailored the series to his strengths. If they did that with some of the other candidates on this board then it could work.

    Also, someone like @denbigh (who certainly knows his stuff) has come out and said that nothing about Timothy Dalton reminds him of James Bond. Now, to me that seems bizarre, but goes to show how we can all arrive at wildly different conclusions. No doubt some of you will think my thoughts on Craig are totally off base.

    As for your exercise of picking someone right on the money - well I think that's the problem, isn't it? There simply isn't anyone. Anyone who could/should do the role has major drawbacks that come hand in hand with their more appropriate qualities.

    Chalamet, going on from his performance in The King, has the poise, gravitas, stoicism, athleticism, and ability to perform cold blooded acts of violence (see how he deals with Sean Harris and Robert Pattinson in the film), but he lacks stature and at this moment in time, muscularity. He is also somewhat feminine and young looking.

    Looking at Aidan Turner, he seems to be the closest in terms of looks to the classical depiction of Bond. I haven't seen anything he has done though, so got no idea about his voice etc.

    But this Chalamet fella is an American. Can you name one American actor who can perform a realistic British accent, not an impression, but a believable accent? I can name one....Micheal C Hall. The likes of Jonny Depp, Robert Downey JR etc are ‘positively shocking’ fakes.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    Posts: 5,970
    suavejmf wrote: »
    I have given my reasons why Chalamet could (emphasis on could - as the thread's title indicates) do the role.

    I am not a Craig fan necessarily. I believe he has given his all, takes it seriously, but his look really lets him down. Just my opinion. I accept that he has other qualities that make him appropriate for James Bond. Either way, they have tailored the series to his strengths. If they did that with some of the other candidates on this board then it could work.

    Also, someone like @denbigh (who certainly knows his stuff) has come out and said that nothing about Timothy Dalton reminds him of James Bond. Now, to me that seems bizarre, but goes to show how we can all arrive at wildly different conclusions. No doubt some of you will think my thoughts on Craig are totally off base.

    As for your exercise of picking someone right on the money - well I think that's the problem, isn't it? There simply isn't anyone. Anyone who could/should do the role has major drawbacks that come hand in hand with their more appropriate qualities.

    Chalamet, going on from his performance in The King, has the poise, gravitas, stoicism, athleticism, and ability to perform cold blooded acts of violence (see how he deals with Sean Harris and Robert Pattinson in the film), but he lacks stature and at this moment in time, muscularity. He is also somewhat feminine and young looking.

    Looking at Aidan Turner, he seems to be the closest in terms of looks to the classical depiction of Bond. I haven't seen anything he has done though, so got no idea about his voice etc.

    But this Chalamet fella is an American. Can you name one American actor who can perform a realistic British accent, not an impression, but a believable accent? I can name one....Micheal C Hall. The likes of Jonny Depp, Robert Downey JR etc are ‘positively shocking’ fakes.
    John Lithgow can haha :D
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    I have given my reasons why Chalamet could (emphasis on could - as the thread's title indicates) do the role.

    I am not a Craig fan necessarily. I believe he has given his all, takes it seriously, but his look really lets him down. Just my opinion. I accept that he has other qualities that make him appropriate for James Bond. Either way, they have tailored the series to his strengths. If they did that with some of the other candidates on this board then it could work.

    Also, someone like @denbigh (who certainly knows his stuff) has come out and said that nothing about Timothy Dalton reminds him of James Bond. Now, to me that seems bizarre, but goes to show how we can all arrive at wildly different conclusions. No doubt some of you will think my thoughts on Craig are totally off base.

    As for your exercise of picking someone right on the money - well I think that's the problem, isn't it? There simply isn't anyone. Anyone who could/should do the role has major drawbacks that come hand in hand with their more appropriate qualities.

    Chalamet, going on from his performance in The King, has the poise, gravitas, stoicism, athleticism, and ability to perform cold blooded acts of violence (see how he deals with Sean Harris and Robert Pattinson in the film), but he lacks stature and at this moment in time, muscularity. He is also somewhat feminine and young looking.

    Looking at Aidan Turner, he seems to be the closest in terms of looks to the classical depiction of Bond. I haven't seen anything he has done though, so got no idea about his voice etc.

    But this Chalamet fella is an American. Can you name one American actor who can perform a realistic British accent, not an impression, but a believable accent? I can name one....Micheal C Hall. The likes of Jonny Depp, Robert Downey JR etc are ‘positively shocking’ fakes.
    John Lithgow can haha :D

    On the subject. I was shocked when I found out the John Hillerman , Higgins on Magnum PI was from Texas. I agree that most Yanks doing a British accent are unconvincing but I was completely fooled by Hillerman.
    Any thoughts?


  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 5,131
    Denbigh wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    I have given my reasons why Chalamet could (emphasis on could - as the thread's title indicates) do the role.

    I am not a Craig fan necessarily. I believe he has given his all, takes it seriously, but his look really lets him down. Just my opinion. I accept that he has other qualities that make him appropriate for James Bond. Either way, they have tailored the series to his strengths. If they did that with some of the other candidates on this board then it could work.

    Also, someone like @denbigh (who certainly knows his stuff) has come out and said that nothing about Timothy Dalton reminds him of James Bond. Now, to me that seems bizarre, but goes to show how we can all arrive at wildly different conclusions. No doubt some of you will think my thoughts on Craig are totally off base.

    As for your exercise of picking someone right on the money - well I think that's the problem, isn't it? There simply isn't anyone. Anyone who could/should do the role has major drawbacks that come hand in hand with their more appropriate qualities.

    Chalamet, going on from his performance in The King, has the poise, gravitas, stoicism, athleticism, and ability to perform cold blooded acts of violence (see how he deals with Sean Harris and Robert Pattinson in the film), but he lacks stature and at this moment in time, muscularity. He is also somewhat feminine and young looking.

    Looking at Aidan Turner, he seems to be the closest in terms of looks to the classical depiction of Bond. I haven't seen anything he has done though, so got no idea about his voice etc.

    But this Chalamet fella is an American. Can you name one American actor who can perform a realistic British accent, not an impression, but a believable accent? I can name one....Micheal C Hall. The likes of Jonny Depp, Robert Downey JR etc are ‘positively shocking’ fakes.
    John Lithgow can haha :D

    It’s not bad, agreed. But it is a fairly pantomime Churchill accent. But ok, that’s 2 US actors in the history of Cinema.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    talos7 wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    I have given my reasons why Chalamet could (emphasis on could - as the thread's title indicates) do the role.

    I am not a Craig fan necessarily. I believe he has given his all, takes it seriously, but his look really lets him down. Just my opinion. I accept that he has other qualities that make him appropriate for James Bond. Either way, they have tailored the series to his strengths. If they did that with some of the other candidates on this board then it could work.

    Also, someone like @denbigh (who certainly knows his stuff) has come out and said that nothing about Timothy Dalton reminds him of James Bond. Now, to me that seems bizarre, but goes to show how we can all arrive at wildly different conclusions. No doubt some of you will think my thoughts on Craig are totally off base.

    As for your exercise of picking someone right on the money - well I think that's the problem, isn't it? There simply isn't anyone. Anyone who could/should do the role has major drawbacks that come hand in hand with their more appropriate qualities.

    Chalamet, going on from his performance in The King, has the poise, gravitas, stoicism, athleticism, and ability to perform cold blooded acts of violence (see how he deals with Sean Harris and Robert Pattinson in the film), but he lacks stature and at this moment in time, muscularity. He is also somewhat feminine and young looking.

    Looking at Aidan Turner, he seems to be the closest in terms of looks to the classical depiction of Bond. I haven't seen anything he has done though, so got no idea about his voice etc.

    But this Chalamet fella is an American. Can you name one American actor who can perform a realistic British accent, not an impression, but a believable accent? I can name one....Micheal C Hall. The likes of Jonny Depp, Robert Downey JR etc are ‘positively shocking’ fakes.
    John Lithgow can haha :D

    On the subject. I was shocked when I found out the John Hillerman , Higgins on Magnum PI was from Texas. I agree that most Yanks doing a British accent are unconvincing but I was completely fooled by Hillerman.
    Any thoughts?


    I can’t comment I’m afraid. Never seen him act.
  • edited June 2020 Posts: 16,163
    Even though he's 80, I think THIS guy deserves a second shot as Bond. More so than I think some of the popular names mentioned in the media deserve a first shot at the role.

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  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 5,131
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Even though he's 80. I think THIS guy deserves a second shot as Bond. More so than I think some of the popular names mentioned in the media deserve a first shot at the role.

    George-Lazenby-photo-by-Azabra.jpg

    Only if he’s perfected an English accent by now....he’s had 50 years to practice mind.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    Posts: 5,970
    suavejmf wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    I have given my reasons why Chalamet could (emphasis on could - as the thread's title indicates) do the role.

    I am not a Craig fan necessarily. I believe he has given his all, takes it seriously, but his look really lets him down. Just my opinion. I accept that he has other qualities that make him appropriate for James Bond. Either way, they have tailored the series to his strengths. If they did that with some of the other candidates on this board then it could work.

    Also, someone like @denbigh (who certainly knows his stuff) has come out and said that nothing about Timothy Dalton reminds him of James Bond. Now, to me that seems bizarre, but goes to show how we can all arrive at wildly different conclusions. No doubt some of you will think my thoughts on Craig are totally off base.

    As for your exercise of picking someone right on the money - well I think that's the problem, isn't it? There simply isn't anyone. Anyone who could/should do the role has major drawbacks that come hand in hand with their more appropriate qualities.

    Chalamet, going on from his performance in The King, has the poise, gravitas, stoicism, athleticism, and ability to perform cold blooded acts of violence (see how he deals with Sean Harris and Robert Pattinson in the film), but he lacks stature and at this moment in time, muscularity. He is also somewhat feminine and young looking.

    Looking at Aidan Turner, he seems to be the closest in terms of looks to the classical depiction of Bond. I haven't seen anything he has done though, so got no idea about his voice etc.

    But this Chalamet fella is an American. Can you name one American actor who can perform a realistic British accent, not an impression, but a believable accent? I can name one....Micheal C Hall. The likes of Jonny Depp, Robert Downey JR etc are ‘positively shocking’ fakes.
    John Lithgow can haha :D

    It’s not bad, agreed. But it is a fairly pantomime Churchill accent. But ok, that’s 2 US actors in the history of Cinema.
    He’d make a good M or Q if they wanted to go for much older actors again for those roles.
  • FatherValentineFatherValentine England
    Posts: 737
    suavejmf wrote: »
    I have given my reasons why Chalamet could (emphasis on could - as the thread's title indicates) do the role.

    I am not a Craig fan necessarily. I believe he has given his all, takes it seriously, but his look really lets him down. Just my opinion. I accept that he has other qualities that make him appropriate for James Bond. Either way, they have tailored the series to his strengths. If they did that with some of the other candidates on this board then it could work.

    Also, someone like @denbigh (who certainly knows his stuff) has come out and said that nothing about Timothy Dalton reminds him of James Bond. Now, to me that seems bizarre, but goes to show how we can all arrive at wildly different conclusions. No doubt some of you will think my thoughts on Craig are totally off base.

    As for your exercise of picking someone right on the money - well I think that's the problem, isn't it? There simply isn't anyone. Anyone who could/should do the role has major drawbacks that come hand in hand with their more appropriate qualities.

    Chalamet, going on from his performance in The King, has the poise, gravitas, stoicism, athleticism, and ability to perform cold blooded acts of violence (see how he deals with Sean Harris and Robert Pattinson in the film), but he lacks stature and at this moment in time, muscularity. He is also somewhat feminine and young looking.

    Looking at Aidan Turner, he seems to be the closest in terms of looks to the classical depiction of Bond. I haven't seen anything he has done though, so got no idea about his voice etc.

    But this Chalamet fella is an American. Can you name one American actor who can perform a realistic British accent, not an impression, but a believable accent? I can name one....Micheal C Hall. The likes of Jonny Depp, Robert Downey JR etc are ‘positively shocking’ fakes.

    An American actor who can perform a realistic British accent...hmmm...let me think...how about Timothee Chalamet?
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    edited June 2020 Posts: 5,131
    suavejmf wrote: »
    I have given my reasons why Chalamet could (emphasis on could - as the thread's title indicates) do the role.

    I am not a Craig fan necessarily. I believe he has given his all, takes it seriously, but his look really lets him down. Just my opinion. I accept that he has other qualities that make him appropriate for James Bond. Either way, they have tailored the series to his strengths. If they did that with some of the other candidates on this board then it could work.

    Also, someone like @denbigh (who certainly knows his stuff) has come out and said that nothing about Timothy Dalton reminds him of James Bond. Now, to me that seems bizarre, but goes to show how we can all arrive at wildly different conclusions. No doubt some of you will think my thoughts on Craig are totally off base.

    As for your exercise of picking someone right on the money - well I think that's the problem, isn't it? There simply isn't anyone. Anyone who could/should do the role has major drawbacks that come hand in hand with their more appropriate qualities.

    Chalamet, going on from his performance in The King, has the poise, gravitas, stoicism, athleticism, and ability to perform cold blooded acts of violence (see how he deals with Sean Harris and Robert Pattinson in the film), but he lacks stature and at this moment in time, muscularity. He is also somewhat feminine and young looking.

    Looking at Aidan Turner, he seems to be the closest in terms of looks to the classical depiction of Bond. I haven't seen anything he has done though, so got no idea about his voice etc.

    But this Chalamet fella is an American. Can you name one American actor who can perform a realistic British accent, not an impression, but a believable accent? I can name one....Micheal C Hall. The likes of Jonny Depp, Robert Downey JR etc are ‘positively shocking’ fakes.

    An American actor who can perform a realistic British accent...hmmm...let me think...how about Timothee Chalamet?

    Prove it???🤷‍♂️Happy to be proved wrong. He sounds utterly yank in the interviews I’ve seen. Again, it’s all well and good attempting the accent, but he has to fool us ‘limeys.’
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 5,131
    Denbigh wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    I have given my reasons why Chalamet could (emphasis on could - as the thread's title indicates) do the role.

    I am not a Craig fan necessarily. I believe he has given his all, takes it seriously, but his look really lets him down. Just my opinion. I accept that he has other qualities that make him appropriate for James Bond. Either way, they have tailored the series to his strengths. If they did that with some of the other candidates on this board then it could work.

    Also, someone like @denbigh (who certainly knows his stuff) has come out and said that nothing about Timothy Dalton reminds him of James Bond. Now, to me that seems bizarre, but goes to show how we can all arrive at wildly different conclusions. No doubt some of you will think my thoughts on Craig are totally off base.

    As for your exercise of picking someone right on the money - well I think that's the problem, isn't it? There simply isn't anyone. Anyone who could/should do the role has major drawbacks that come hand in hand with their more appropriate qualities.

    Chalamet, going on from his performance in The King, has the poise, gravitas, stoicism, athleticism, and ability to perform cold blooded acts of violence (see how he deals with Sean Harris and Robert Pattinson in the film), but he lacks stature and at this moment in time, muscularity. He is also somewhat feminine and young looking.

    Looking at Aidan Turner, he seems to be the closest in terms of looks to the classical depiction of Bond. I haven't seen anything he has done though, so got no idea about his voice etc.

    But this Chalamet fella is an American. Can you name one American actor who can perform a realistic British accent, not an impression, but a believable accent? I can name one....Micheal C Hall. The likes of Jonny Depp, Robert Downey JR etc are ‘positively shocking’ fakes.
    John Lithgow can haha :D

    It’s not bad, agreed. But it is a fairly pantomime Churchill accent. But ok, that’s 2 US actors in the history of Cinema.
    He’d make a good M or Q if they wanted to go for much older actors again for those roles.

    Personally I’d still cast authentic Brit actors.
  • FatherValentineFatherValentine England
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    I have given my reasons why Chalamet could (emphasis on could - as the thread's title indicates) do the role.

    I am not a Craig fan necessarily. I believe he has given his all, takes it seriously, but his look really lets him down. Just my opinion. I accept that he has other qualities that make him appropriate for James Bond. Either way, they have tailored the series to his strengths. If they did that with some of the other candidates on this board then it could work.

    Also, someone like @denbigh (who certainly knows his stuff) has come out and said that nothing about Timothy Dalton reminds him of James Bond. Now, to me that seems bizarre, but goes to show how we can all arrive at wildly different conclusions. No doubt some of you will think my thoughts on Craig are totally off base.

    As for your exercise of picking someone right on the money - well I think that's the problem, isn't it? There simply isn't anyone. Anyone who could/should do the role has major drawbacks that come hand in hand with their more appropriate qualities.

    Chalamet, going on from his performance in The King, has the poise, gravitas, stoicism, athleticism, and ability to perform cold blooded acts of violence (see how he deals with Sean Harris and Robert Pattinson in the film), but he lacks stature and at this moment in time, muscularity. He is also somewhat feminine and young looking.

    Looking at Aidan Turner, he seems to be the closest in terms of looks to the classical depiction of Bond. I haven't seen anything he has done though, so got no idea about his voice etc.

    But this Chalamet fella is an American. Can you name one American actor who can perform a realistic British accent, not an impression, but a believable accent? I can name one....Micheal C Hall. The likes of Jonny Depp, Robert Downey JR etc are ‘positively shocking’ fakes.

    An American actor who can perform a realistic British accent...hmmm...let me think...how about Timothee Chalamet?

    Prove it???🤷‍♂️Happy to be proved wrong. He sounds utterly yank in the interviews I’ve seen. Again, it’s all well and good attempting the accent, but he has to fool us ‘limeys.’

    Watch The King.
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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited June 2020 Posts: 16,395
    suavejmf wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    I have given my reasons why Chalamet could (emphasis on could - as the thread's title indicates) do the role.

    I am not a Craig fan necessarily. I believe he has given his all, takes it seriously, but his look really lets him down. Just my opinion. I accept that he has other qualities that make him appropriate for James Bond. Either way, they have tailored the series to his strengths. If they did that with some of the other candidates on this board then it could work.

    Also, someone like @denbigh (who certainly knows his stuff) has come out and said that nothing about Timothy Dalton reminds him of James Bond. Now, to me that seems bizarre, but goes to show how we can all arrive at wildly different conclusions. No doubt some of you will think my thoughts on Craig are totally off base.

    As for your exercise of picking someone right on the money - well I think that's the problem, isn't it? There simply isn't anyone. Anyone who could/should do the role has major drawbacks that come hand in hand with their more appropriate qualities.

    Chalamet, going on from his performance in The King, has the poise, gravitas, stoicism, athleticism, and ability to perform cold blooded acts of violence (see how he deals with Sean Harris and Robert Pattinson in the film), but he lacks stature and at this moment in time, muscularity. He is also somewhat feminine and young looking.

    Looking at Aidan Turner, he seems to be the closest in terms of looks to the classical depiction of Bond. I haven't seen anything he has done though, so got no idea about his voice etc.

    But this Chalamet fella is an American. Can you name one American actor who can perform a realistic British accent, not an impression, but a believable accent? I can name one....Micheal C Hall. The likes of Jonny Depp, Robert Downey JR etc are ‘positively shocking’ fakes.
    John Lithgow can haha :D

    It’s not bad, agreed. But it is a fairly pantomime Churchill accent. But ok, that’s 2 US actors in the history of Cinema.

    You'll disagree with anything anyone suggests, but I'd say that Christopher Plummer (a North American) is pretty hard to spot. Streep's not shabby either.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,216
    mtm wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    I have given my reasons why Chalamet could (emphasis on could - as the thread's title indicates) do the role.

    I am not a Craig fan necessarily. I believe he has given his all, takes it seriously, but his look really lets him down. Just my opinion. I accept that he has other qualities that make him appropriate for James Bond. Either way, they have tailored the series to his strengths. If they did that with some of the other candidates on this board then it could work.

    Also, someone like @denbigh (who certainly knows his stuff) has come out and said that nothing about Timothy Dalton reminds him of James Bond. Now, to me that seems bizarre, but goes to show how we can all arrive at wildly different conclusions. No doubt some of you will think my thoughts on Craig are totally off base.

    As for your exercise of picking someone right on the money - well I think that's the problem, isn't it? There simply isn't anyone. Anyone who could/should do the role has major drawbacks that come hand in hand with their more appropriate qualities.

    Chalamet, going on from his performance in The King, has the poise, gravitas, stoicism, athleticism, and ability to perform cold blooded acts of violence (see how he deals with Sean Harris and Robert Pattinson in the film), but he lacks stature and at this moment in time, muscularity. He is also somewhat feminine and young looking.

    Looking at Aidan Turner, he seems to be the closest in terms of looks to the classical depiction of Bond. I haven't seen anything he has done though, so got no idea about his voice etc.

    But this Chalamet fella is an American. Can you name one American actor who can perform a realistic British accent, not an impression, but a believable accent? I can name one....Micheal C Hall. The likes of Jonny Depp, Robert Downey JR etc are ‘positively shocking’ fakes.
    John Lithgow can haha :D

    It’s not bad, agreed. But it is a fairly pantomime Churchill accent. But ok, that’s 2 US actors in the history of Cinema.

    You'll disagree with anything anyone suggests, but I'd say that Christopher Plummer (a North American) is pretty hard to spot. Streep's not shabby either.

    That's a good shout.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    edited June 2020 Posts: 5,131
    mtm wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    I have given my reasons why Chalamet could (emphasis on could - as the thread's title indicates) do the role.

    I am not a Craig fan necessarily. I believe he has given his all, takes it seriously, but his look really lets him down. Just my opinion. I accept that he has other qualities that make him appropriate for James Bond. Either way, they have tailored the series to his strengths. If they did that with some of the other candidates on this board then it could work.

    Also, someone like @denbigh (who certainly knows his stuff) has come out and said that nothing about Timothy Dalton reminds him of James Bond. Now, to me that seems bizarre, but goes to show how we can all arrive at wildly different conclusions. No doubt some of you will think my thoughts on Craig are totally off base.

    As for your exercise of picking someone right on the money - well I think that's the problem, isn't it? There simply isn't anyone. Anyone who could/should do the role has major drawbacks that come hand in hand with their more appropriate qualities.

    Chalamet, going on from his performance in The King, has the poise, gravitas, stoicism, athleticism, and ability to perform cold blooded acts of violence (see how he deals with Sean Harris and Robert Pattinson in the film), but he lacks stature and at this moment in time, muscularity. He is also somewhat feminine and young looking.

    Looking at Aidan Turner, he seems to be the closest in terms of looks to the classical depiction of Bond. I haven't seen anything he has done though, so got no idea about his voice etc.

    But this Chalamet fella is an American. Can you name one American actor who can perform a realistic British accent, not an impression, but a believable accent? I can name one....Micheal C Hall. The likes of Jonny Depp, Robert Downey JR etc are ‘positively shocking’ fakes.
    John Lithgow can haha :D

    It’s not bad, agreed. But it is a fairly pantomime Churchill accent. But ok, that’s 2 US actors in the history of Cinema.

    You'll disagree with anything anyone suggests, but I'd say that Christopher Plummer (a North American) is pretty hard to spot. Streep's not shabby either.

    I’ve accepted an example already. Yes, Plummer is ok too. There’s something quite erudite about his persona, which seems British.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited June 2020 Posts: 16,395
    suavejmf wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    I have given my reasons why Chalamet could (emphasis on could - as the thread's title indicates) do the role.

    I am not a Craig fan necessarily. I believe he has given his all, takes it seriously, but his look really lets him down. Just my opinion. I accept that he has other qualities that make him appropriate for James Bond. Either way, they have tailored the series to his strengths. If they did that with some of the other candidates on this board then it could work.

    Also, someone like @denbigh (who certainly knows his stuff) has come out and said that nothing about Timothy Dalton reminds him of James Bond. Now, to me that seems bizarre, but goes to show how we can all arrive at wildly different conclusions. No doubt some of you will think my thoughts on Craig are totally off base.

    As for your exercise of picking someone right on the money - well I think that's the problem, isn't it? There simply isn't anyone. Anyone who could/should do the role has major drawbacks that come hand in hand with their more appropriate qualities.

    Chalamet, going on from his performance in The King, has the poise, gravitas, stoicism, athleticism, and ability to perform cold blooded acts of violence (see how he deals with Sean Harris and Robert Pattinson in the film), but he lacks stature and at this moment in time, muscularity. He is also somewhat feminine and young looking.

    Looking at Aidan Turner, he seems to be the closest in terms of looks to the classical depiction of Bond. I haven't seen anything he has done though, so got no idea about his voice etc.

    But this Chalamet fella is an American. Can you name one American actor who can perform a realistic British accent, not an impression, but a believable accent? I can name one....Micheal C Hall. The likes of Jonny Depp, Robert Downey JR etc are ‘positively shocking’ fakes.
    John Lithgow can haha :D

    It’s not bad, agreed. But it is a fairly pantomime Churchill accent. But ok, that’s 2 US actors in the history of Cinema.

    You'll disagree with anything anyone suggests, but I'd say that Christopher Plummer (a North American) is pretty hard to spot. Streep's not shabby either.

    I’ve accepted an example already. Yes, Plummer is ok too. There’s something quite erudite about his persona, which seems British.

    The most grudging acceptance possible! :D
    I think quite a few people still think Plummer is British.

    It's entirely possible to do it. Like you, I'd prefer it not to just for authenticity's sake, plus in a way it kind of boosts the British film industry just a bit to have real British stars, but if all else fails it is possible.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    edited June 2020 Posts: 5,131
    mtm wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    I have given my reasons why Chalamet could (emphasis on could - as the thread's title indicates) do the role.

    I am not a Craig fan necessarily. I believe he has given his all, takes it seriously, but his look really lets him down. Just my opinion. I accept that he has other qualities that make him appropriate for James Bond. Either way, they have tailored the series to his strengths. If they did that with some of the other candidates on this board then it could work.

    Also, someone like @denbigh (who certainly knows his stuff) has come out and said that nothing about Timothy Dalton reminds him of James Bond. Now, to me that seems bizarre, but goes to show how we can all arrive at wildly different conclusions. No doubt some of you will think my thoughts on Craig are totally off base.

    As for your exercise of picking someone right on the money - well I think that's the problem, isn't it? There simply isn't anyone. Anyone who could/should do the role has major drawbacks that come hand in hand with their more appropriate qualities.

    Chalamet, going on from his performance in The King, has the poise, gravitas, stoicism, athleticism, and ability to perform cold blooded acts of violence (see how he deals with Sean Harris and Robert Pattinson in the film), but he lacks stature and at this moment in time, muscularity. He is also somewhat feminine and young looking.

    Looking at Aidan Turner, he seems to be the closest in terms of looks to the classical depiction of Bond. I haven't seen anything he has done though, so got no idea about his voice etc.

    But this Chalamet fella is an American. Can you name one American actor who can perform a realistic British accent, not an impression, but a believable accent? I can name one....Micheal C Hall. The likes of Jonny Depp, Robert Downey JR etc are ‘positively shocking’ fakes.
    John Lithgow can haha :D

    It’s not bad, agreed. But it is a fairly pantomime Churchill accent. But ok, that’s 2 US actors in the history of Cinema.

    You'll disagree with anything anyone suggests, but I'd say that Christopher Plummer (a North American) is pretty hard to spot. Streep's not shabby either.

    I’ve accepted an example already. Yes, Plummer is ok too. There’s something quite erudite about his persona, which seems British.

    The most grudging acceptance possible! :D
    I think quite a few people still think Plummer is British.

    It's entirely possible to do it. Like you, I'd prefer it not to just for authenticity's sake, plus in a way it kind of boosts the British film industry just a bit to have real British stars, but if all else fails it is possible.

    I’ll give you that one too. 👍

    I’ve just heard the accent so badly done in the past. Acting standards are improving internationally it seems though.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,209
    Born and raised in Texas; to my untrained ear he sounds pretty good.

  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited June 2020 Posts: 5,970
    On a different note, Fionn Whitehead is someone I’d put forward for Bond 8. He was the main young guy from Dunkirk and Bandersnatch.
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