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Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    ImpertinentGoon wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Benny wrote: »
    It’s actually an incredibly difficult role to fill. And as an actor to pull it off. It’s not as simple as merely looking the part. But you have to be able to act, Bond isn’t Shakespeare but you do need the ability to convey the story and character.
    It’s also a role that wouldn’t appeal to all actors. I don’t think Timothee Chalamet would be interested in taking on a well established, franchise role. With a multi picture contract. For me he tucks none of the boxes for the role. As a potential villain down the track. Sure.
    A.Turner has the looks and charisma. And he’s not a bad actor at all. But his body of work in film is very limited. He’s not done anything that a studio or EON could say has made him a box office draw. I’m sure he’d make a descent Bond. I’m not so sure the gamble would be taken, by those in power.

    Yeah you need someone who's been proven to be a strong lead in a movie.

    It's a bit like how they cast the villains: they don't just get anyone who looks a bit bad, they get big actors who have impressed. They didn't get Christoph Waltz because they thought he'd look good with a scar and a cat: they got him because he'd been a chilling villain in other movies like Inglorious Basterds. No, it doesn't work every time because it's an art not a science, but even so you don't get an unknown in their first movie to be the main baddie, so you certainly don't do the same with Bond.

    And that is the problem this thread is constantly circling:
    You need somebody who has shown they "have it", but can't go with somebody for Bond who is already too big.

    Hollywood has basically killed the "medium movie". Everything that used to be a character driven 90-120 minute film for people over the age of 20 is now stretched to 8 hours and made a limited series. Therefore, we are in very short supply of actors who have shown they can lead a movie (or three) on their own, but haven't fully broken through and/or aren't under contract to play somebody wearing spandex in their free time for 6 movies.

    Is there any doubt Layer Cake would either be a 5-episode mini-series or simply not made in 2020?

    Very interesting thought. It makes it tricky, because leading a TV show isn't the same as leading a movie.
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
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    Univex wrote: »
    So an actor who olds a tv series for 5 years being its main star would be, by today's standards, a proven actor (?) Since medium 90 to 120m films aren't a thing nowadays and we've only got the streaming services and studios to go on (?)

    I'd say, yes.

    :)
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    Denbigh wrote: »
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    mtm wrote: »
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    I don't think anyones saying that no-ones interested in whose playing James Bond, my point anyway is that whoever you cast, it's gonna get a conversation going online, whether it's Cavill or Chalamet or whoever, or whether the conversation is positive or negative, because people do get excited and heated about James Bond.

    Yes, Cavill would be safer choice ( I think it's just never gonna happen cause of Superman and The Witcher), but to cast someone specifically for that online reaction isn't a good enough reason, and not something I imagine EON doing.

    Just because Cavill is a safer choice, it doesn't mean they're gonna need someone like Chalamet to completely catch people of the guard and cause a stir, cause the idea is that no matter who is James Bond, audiences will watch and give their thoughts. Their opinions may differ and alter based on who it is initially, but either way, the conversation starts.
    I'm not saying that person is Chalamet, not at all, just that freshness is what it needs every time, they can't coast along on Bond himself being enough.
    Ok, I see what you're saying @mtm, and of course we want it to be an exciting choice and someone that will be refreshing and be something new, and I think it will be. I also think what you mention is what's gonna get those people, that maybe lost interest during Craig's era, on board, not whether they appeal to youthful online culture.

    Being one of those who have lost interest, I'd rather have a "safer" candidate than an "edgy" one.
    I mean to me this is why they need someone whose gonna strike that balance of something fresh and new, but something that still honours the original creation, which is why I nominate Callum a lot cause I feel he could have that fresh take but could also personify that original creation - in my opinion.
    Callum whom, @Denbigh?
    Turner.
    (where does that suggestion come from anyway?)
    He's been strongly suggested by Pierce.

    The way he's been mentioned lately, I thought this thread had found a new Aidan Turner!

    Oh damn, yeah, it's time for some Turner again ;)

    *Oh no! X_X

    *(I'm not against Aidan Turner though, but he's being hyped up like a Connery 2.0 at times)

    lol, yes. But there's no Connery 2.0 There'll never be. Although I reckon Aidan Turner could do a fine job.

    I thought you of all people would appreciate a more classic choice like this. He does remind of Connery. Even his assertiveness and confidence as Ross Poldark, his voice, his eyebrows, and his demeanour.


    It's probably the period setting, but I'd rather look at And Then There Were None as something to measure his suitability by. Admittedly, ATTWN is a period series too, but these series that take place even further back in history do have a bit stagy(?) feel to them – and very much so in the way the characters speak.

    Strangely edited video with an awful music, but...


    Very strangely edited video. At least you get to see him with a proper haircut and a suit. Haven't watched ATTWN since it first aired, and I must admit I don't remember much of it.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Speaking of Christie adaptations, did you see The Crooked House at the beginning of the year with Rufus Sewell giving off some good Bondy vibes, looking all 50s stylish?
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    mtm wrote: »
    Speaking of Christie adaptations, did you see The Crooked House at the beginning of the year with Rufus Sewell giving off some good Bondy vibes, looking all 50s stylish?
    I did, although I was more focused on Kaya Scodelario, would love to see her as a future Bond girl.
  • UnivexUnivex
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    Rufus Sewell, another could-have-been. I liked the adaptation of The pale horse. He could also be a good nemesis one day.
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
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    Univex wrote: »
    I guess Connery, Lazenby, Dalton and Pierce would've never been Bond by those standards. They'd done nothing edgy or cool until Bond.

    Cubby isn’t in charge anymore though, Barbara is. And I think her relationship with Brosnan compared to her relationship with Craig is pretty telling.
  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
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    I hope Bond 7 is more traditional like Moore and Brosnan were.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    edited August 2020 Posts: 8,231
    thelivingroyale wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    I guess Connery, Lazenby, Dalton and Pierce would've never been Bond by those standards. They'd done nothing edgy or cool until Bond.

    Cubby isn’t in charge anymore though, Barbara is. And I think her relationship with Brosnan compared to her relationship with Craig is pretty telling.

    That's a good point, but my gut feeling is that Craig will be always be unique to Barbara in the sense that, for lack of a better phrase, he was her "first". I think she would have given quite a lot to get more films out of him.

    Who knows what her relationship with the next guy will be like, where he will come from, or how "edgy" he will be.
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
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    mtm wrote: »
    Speaking of Christie adaptations, did you see The Crooked House at the beginning of the year with Rufus Sewell giving off some good Bondy vibes, looking all 50s stylish?

    Yes! I liked that miniseries, and I have to agree with @Denbigh re. Kaya Scodelario. She has a bit of a Lara Pulver like look about her. Pulver could be an interesting casting choice too.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited August 2020 Posts: 5,970
    Again, this is why I say, it's impossible to base the next guy of off Barbara's choosing of Craig because to me it's not based on how he looked, I think it was based on how he resonated with her, and how committed she was to making sure he was the guy, so as @CraigMooreOHMSS, who knows what that'll be with the next guy.

    But we know that if Barbara likes an actor, she'll do what she can to get him in there.

    And yeah @Torgeirtrap, she'd be great, although I would only want her cast alongside an age appropriate Bond, not someone in his 40s/50s, if her role as a Bond girl would be a romantic one, which is usually the case.
  • UnivexUnivex
    edited August 2020 Posts: 6,710
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Speaking of Christie adaptations, did you see The Crooked House at the beginning of the year with Rufus Sewell giving off some good Bondy vibes, looking all 50s stylish?

    Yes! I liked that miniseries, and I have to agree with @Denbigh re. Kaya Scodelario. She has a bit of a Lara Pulver like look about her. Pulver could be an interesting casting choice too.

    Lara Pulver...yes, please.
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  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
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    Timothy Olyphant would be a good Felix Leiter in the vein of Jack Lord, imo.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    Univex wrote: »
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Speaking of Christie adaptations, did you see The Crooked House at the beginning of the year with Rufus Sewell giving off some good Bondy vibes, looking all 50s stylish?

    Yes! I liked that miniseries, and I have to agree with @Denbigh re. Kaya Scodelario. She has a bit of a Lara Pulver like look about her. Pulver could be an interesting casting choice too.

    Lara Pulver...yes, please.
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    Good lord.
  • Benjamin_Weekly69Benjamin_Weekly69 London
    edited August 2020 Posts: 727
    There has been three on screen Batmen within Craig’s tenure.
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    And yeah @Torgeirtrap, she'd be great, although I would only want her cast alongside an age appropriate Bond, not someone in his 40s/50s, if her role as a Bond girl would be a romantic one, which is usually the case.

    Yes, she would definitely be best suited alongside a younger actor – which we will get with Bond 26. ;-)

    Univex wrote: »
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Speaking of Christie adaptations, did you see The Crooked House at the beginning of the year with Rufus Sewell giving off some good Bondy vibes, looking all 50s stylish?

    Yes! I liked that miniseries, and I have to agree with @Denbigh re. Kaya Scodelario. She has a bit of a Lara Pulver like look about her. Pulver could be an interesting casting choice too.

    Lara Pulver...yes, please.
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  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited August 2020 Posts: 5,970
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    And yeah @Torgeirtrap, she'd be great, although I would only want her cast alongside an age appropriate Bond, not someone in his 40s/50s, if her role as a Bond girl would be a romantic one, which is usually the case.
    – which we will get with Bond 26.
    I hope so. These are my top 3 choices :)
    1) Callum Turner
    2) Aaron Taylor-Johnson
    3) Sam Claflin
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
    Posts: 2,541
    Univex wrote: »
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Speaking of Christie adaptations, did you see The Crooked House at the beginning of the year with Rufus Sewell giving off some good Bondy vibes, looking all 50s stylish?

    Yes! I liked that miniseries, and I have to agree with @Denbigh re. Kaya Scodelario. She has a bit of a Lara Pulver like look about her. Pulver could be an interesting casting choice too.

    Lara Pulver...yes, please.
    s_2258730b.jpg

    Yes, yes, yes to Lara.
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    Posts: 17,819
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    And yeah @Torgeirtrap, she'd be great, although I would only want her cast alongside an age appropriate Bond, not someone in his 40s/50s, if her role as a Bond girl would be a romantic one, which is usually the case.
    – which we will get with Bond 26.
    I hope so. These are my top 3 choices :)
    1) Callum Turner
    2) Aaron Taylor-Johnson
    3) Sam Claflin

    I struggle making a list with likely candidates, age wise. Luke Evans is my favourite, but he's too old now. I'd be happy with Henry Cavill, but that's almost a controversial opinion it seems!
  • UnivexUnivex
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    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    And yeah @Torgeirtrap, she'd be great, although I would only want her cast alongside an age appropriate Bond, not someone in his 40s/50s, if her role as a Bond girl would be a romantic one, which is usually the case.
    – which we will get with Bond 26.
    I hope so. These are my top 3 choices :)
    1) Callum Turner
    2) Aaron Taylor-Johnson
    3) Sam Claflin

    I struggle making a list with likely candidates, age wise. Luke Evans is my favourite, but he's too old now. I'd be happy with Henry Cavill, but that's almost a controversial opinion it seems!

    Well, for me it would go like this:

    1)Aidan Turner
    2)Luke Evans
    3)Henry Cavill

    ;)
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    Posts: 17,819
    Univex wrote: »
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    And yeah @Torgeirtrap, she'd be great, although I would only want her cast alongside an age appropriate Bond, not someone in his 40s/50s, if her role as a Bond girl would be a romantic one, which is usually the case.
    – which we will get with Bond 26.
    I hope so. These are my top 3 choices :)
    1) Callum Turner
    2) Aaron Taylor-Johnson
    3) Sam Claflin

    I struggle making a list with likely candidates, age wise. Luke Evans is my favourite, but he's too old now. I'd be happy with Henry Cavill, but that's almost a controversial opinion it seems!

    Well, for me it would go like this:

    1)Aidan Turner
    2)Luke Evans
    3)Henry Cavill

    ;)

    That would probably be my top three list if not taking age into consideration! Evans at #1 though.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
    Posts: 2,541
    Univex wrote: »
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    And yeah @Torgeirtrap, she'd be great, although I would only want her cast alongside an age appropriate Bond, not someone in his 40s/50s, if her role as a Bond girl would be a romantic one, which is usually the case.
    – which we will get with Bond 26.
    I hope so. These are my top 3 choices :)
    1) Callum Turner
    2) Aaron Taylor-Johnson
    3) Sam Claflin

    I struggle making a list with likely candidates, age wise. Luke Evans is my favourite, but he's too old now. I'd be happy with Henry Cavill, but that's almost a controversial opinion it seems!

    Well, for me it would go like this:

    1)Aidan Turner
    2)Luke Evans
    3)Henry Cavill

    ;)

    After Turner it's Theo James for me.
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
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    After Aidan it's Turner for me
  • UnivexUnivex
    edited September 2020 Posts: 6,710
    JeremyBondon wrote: »
    After Aidan it's Turner for me

    lol ;)
    Resurrection wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    And yeah @Torgeirtrap, she'd be great, although I would only want her cast alongside an age appropriate Bond, not someone in his 40s/50s, if her role as a Bond girl would be a romantic one, which is usually the case.
    – which we will get with Bond 26.
    I hope so. These are my top 3 choices :)
    1) Callum Turner
    2) Aaron Taylor-Johnson
    3) Sam Claflin

    I struggle making a list with likely candidates, age wise. Luke Evans is my favourite, but he's too old now. I'd be happy with Henry Cavill, but that's almost a controversial opinion it seems!

    Well, for me it would go like this:

    1)Aidan Turner
    2)Luke Evans
    3)Henry Cavill

    ;)

    After Turner it's Theo James for me.

    n4 for me.
  • Benjamin_Weekly69Benjamin_Weekly69 London
    edited September 2020 Posts: 727
    Mads Mikkelsen would’ve made a hell of a Bond if he could pull off the English accent.

  • LudovicoLudovico
    Posts: 15,229
    Benjamin_Weekly69 wrote: »
    Mads Mikkelsen would’ve made a hell of a Bond if he could pull off the English accent.

    I always thought his face was a tad too weird. Perfect for a villain though.
  • RoadphillRoadphill United Kingdom
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    Cavill or Turner are the obvious choices, but I'm betting EON will go left field on this one...
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
    Posts: 2,541
    JeremyBondon wrote: »
    After Aidan it's Turner for me

    😁
  • M_BlaiseM_Blaise
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    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    And yeah @Torgeirtrap, she'd be great, although I would only want her cast alongside an age appropriate Bond, not someone in his 40s/50s, if her role as a Bond girl would be a romantic one, which is usually the case.
    – which we will get with Bond 26.
    I hope so. These are my top 3 choices :)
    1) Callum Turner
    2) Aaron Taylor-Johnson
    3) Sam Claflin

    I struggle making a list with likely candidates, age wise. Luke Evans is my favourite, but he's too old now. I'd be happy with Henry Cavill, but that's almost a controversial opinion it seems!

    It's not controversial, it just gets old when people bring up someone who isn't capable of playing the part.
  • LudovicoLudovico
    Posts: 15,229
    Cavill has the looks. Or he had the look, nowadays I think his skin looks plastic, as if he is an animated Action Man. It's his acting skills that are lacking. He never developed them.
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