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That, or the next one is already doomed. Unless they bank on classic looks, which was the only thing Craig didn't deliver (general opinion, not mine). I which case, they'd need someone who fits the bill looks wise and is a cracking thespian. Good luck with that.
We, my friends, were spoiled with Craig. I'll say it here, Daniel Craig for Bond26 ;) Milk that cow dry, because the pasture is as empty as streets were in April. Well, he won't do it. Nor will they. NTTD will be the first time a Bond actor (bar Lazenby) has a perfect swann song, and he won't risk another.
My fear is that they won't have a choice other than go full diametrical opposite to what Bond is supposed to be. And that's it, or they go full classic or they go full unrecognisable. Mimicking Craig won't be an option I hope. It'd be like finding a Connery 2.0 back then (yes, yes, I know, they did tried that with Laz).
Oh well, who knows. They've got a big luxurious problem on their hands.
Yeah same here- he was a bit chinless. But I do think that little bit in Kingsman showed he could do a bit of steel occasionally. All the same, he was never really right for it.
The big problem is we don't know what direction they would take next. I used to think that there will be another classic bond like Sean-Roger-Pierce after Craig's departure but after Connery, Craig era has been the most successful, critically and financially which makes things completely unpredictable and exciting at the same time.
I like some of your top 5: Fassbender, Hiddleston, Evans. 👍
But Hardy is too short and Hemsworth is Australian (and a tad wooden/ one dimensional as an actor) IMO.
He looks Spanish or Italian to me.
I don’t know if they’ll choose a direction for casting so much as let the casting decide for them. Craig wasn’t quite what they seemed to have in mind (a little too old for the script?) but was too strong not to pick. So they’ll look at all sorts (and I’m sure that will include BAME actors, to warn those of a sensitive disposition!) and I think when they find a great one who can lead a movie, the direction will in part be directed by that choice.
Folks say that Bond is bigger than the actor, but does anyone think we’d have got Moonraker without Roger? LTK without Dalton? These films play to their stars’ strengths.
Bit of a chicken and egg problem really. I would guess they won't cast as the very, very first thing in the production of Bond 26. I hope they have at least an idea where they want it to go (continuation of the old timeline, period piece, full reboot, straight fleming adaptation or original screenplay and so on). Then they decide on writers, actor and director in some order and then all of them shape the picture while it is produced.
I wonder if the directors have gained so much in importance in the last 20 years that they may look there first. (I know this is the actors thread. I may have to move this to the Bond 26 & Beyond thread, if we get too far into it).
Yes, true. Casino Royale certainly seemed to be an idea of a direction which Craig was then cast for. But then I suppose you can also imagine Brosnan doing The Living Daylights as originally planned and there being enough room in that script for Glen to have perhaps leant a bit more on the lighter side (at times) which Pierce was known for and was more comfortable with than Dalton. I think an actor choice can steer even their first film, to varying degrees.
Your thought about directors is interesting: I certainly wonder if their NTTD experience will look to have the next director also involved with the actual script, as Fukunaga has been. Following the Mission Impossible model perhaps.
Id put money on it being the producers as they saw the success of the Bourne Series and saw that a more rugged spy was what fans where looking for.
I don’t see it, not even close.
Time for what, pray tell. Actually..., don't. Not getting into this again. Dev Patel, Timothée Chalamet, Idris Ela, ..., sure.
Connery looks Spanish or Italian? Not to me. Not in the slightest.
Time to what? Reboot the Vijay character from Octopussy.
Richard Madden is still my first choice.
Can't see where you're coming from with that. He's hardly a ginger highlander.
Pop over to the continent and meet some, you'll see what I mean.
Bond is described by Fleming as looking like he has 'mixed blood', so you should be happy with that look anyway.
I’ve been many times to both Countries and the different regions of both.
From experience, I still totally disagree with you.
Correct on the Fleming point (albeit I re call it was ‘looking slightly foreign’/ fitting in abroad due to dark hair etc).
I just looked up ‘Teale’ and his heritage is actually South American and Spanish. So that would be a ‘no’ from me and shows why he looks ‘Spanish.’ I didn’t realise that fact when I made my initial comment. He actually is Spanish.
A Scottish/ Swiss bloodline is ‘mixed‘ I agree. But it’s not really indicating anything.
You say yes, I say no.
No problem.
The new Dune trailer demonstrates that Chalamet is a leading man...He's giving Christian Bale energy in that trailer.
I think he's a Bond in the making. Dune seems a bit of question-mark though; I do think it has the potential to be a success. It is certainly getting a lot of hype, but the question is whether that hype translate into box office gold. After all, the film looks akin to Villeneuve's 2049. So it may end up a cerebral blockbuster, which Film Twitter is a abuzz about, but general audiences aren't necessarily clamouring for now.
I think having played or currently playing either Batman or Superman rules you out from being James Bond. So that means both Robert Pattinson and Henry Cavill (two worthy candidates) are not in the mix.
However, I don't think Paul Atreides is on that list. Plus, as I mentioned, Chalamet is reminiscent of Bale. Someone that would have been a good Bond in 2005/2006. especially if he wasn't Batman, Bale may have been in CR. Though I'm glad they went with Craig. Bale looks a bit like a Brosnan clone, and Craig was a more 'real' and grittier take on the character. He stripped Bond of the self-conscious vanity attached to the part. Something I think Bale could never do. He was always to much of a 'pretty boy lead' even as Batman. Daniel Craig feels more like Richard Burton kinda guy....In fact, Craig's casting as Batman would have bought out the animal in that character. But that franchise would be too scared to make that departure. So props to Eon for making that leap.
But, the next 007 should be Chalamet. Mainly as he's on the same career path as Bale and if Eon don't move quickly Chalamet will end up as the next Batman eventually. He has a few years to mature still, something that Bale was also able to accomplish. They both played the same role in Little Women after all:
Good lord, no. He's a decent actor, but far too weak looking. He appears as though he is barely off the teet.
He looks almost Asian here.
Bond isn’t Asian.
Nope: his looks are described by Fleming as having the look of someone with "mixed blood" - literally those exact words.
It's a comment on his looks, not his actual bloodline. If it's good enough for Fleming it's good enough for me...
Why did you put Teale's name in inverted commas? Do you not think that's his name or something?
It's a bit OT but I think you might be right- not sure it's the right time for a film like this. It will be interesting to see how NTTD fares as I don't think any other big dumb audience-pleasing blockbusters seem to be on the way beforehand. Tenet wasn't really the same sort of thing: Bond may well get them back. Dune... yeah, probably not.
On the Fleming point, ah right. Yep, If it's good enough for Fleming it's good enough for me as well then.
With regards to Teale....Because he looks more like an ‘Antonio Banderas Jr’ to me.
Wow.
And you all know this to be true.
+1.
Ha ha ha!
Much like your stereotypical quip about Scots being Ginger; “He’s hardly a ginger highlander”.
Also, double posting isn't cool.
Also, is p2d still trolling everyone with chamalamadingdong? Get over it, mate. Hereby I vote for Bruce Willis, he has no hair but at least he looks like he's equipped with a set of balls, which in Bond's case is mandatory.