Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • Posts: 1,630
    5'9 3/4" tall per IMDB for R Madden, as was Richard Burton, considered for the role before Connery. Madden's co-star in The Take, Idris Elba, is 6'2 1/2. Tom Hiddlestone looked great in The Night Manager and is 6'1 3/4". Michael Fassbender is 6' even. Aidan Turner, 5'10 1/2". John Gavin -- cast for DAF before Connery returned -- was 6'4". James Brolin -- an American who was screen-tested before Moore returned to the table -- is 6'3".

    Connery: 6'2"
    Lazenby 6' even
    Moore 6'1 3/4"
    Dalton 6'1"
    Brosnan 6'1 1/4"
    Craig 5'10" and that may well be the limit

    You can skip Barry Nelson though he was 5'11 1/2", and Peter Sellers at 5'8" (did not really portray Bond -- was Evelyn Tremble), but David Niven did play Bond and was considered by the Bond film producers before Connery, and was 5'11 1/4".

    Taller guys can be solidly built and not lool "stocky." Not solid enough, and then they're not credible for various aspects of the role. Bond in the novels is tall and thin, not very heavy, but solid enough to be brutal. I know, I know -- Tom Cruise is shorter and does well in the Mission: Impossible films. Bruce Lee was small but could beat nearly anyone else, but that is not the point. Bond should be tall and handsome. Per the books, "with a hint of cruelty." Not a hint -- or more -- of looking worrisome, upset, or unconfident
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited September 2020 Posts: 4,520
    I wish we stil get actor born in the late 70's (Julian Bailey for example born in 1977), but mabey we should expect somebody born in 1983-1989. Tom Bateman, Steve Lund (1989) Sam Claflin (1986) James Norton (1985) Jack Derges (1987)

    Sam Claflin and James Norton are be discussion before.

    Sam Claflin (Uk)
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    James Norton




    Include footage with actor who play Waldo in NTTD.

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    https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/films/982890/James-Bond-25-Daniel-Craig-next-Bond-Sam-Claflin-Adrift-Tom-Hardy-James-Norton
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    Tom Bateman (UK):

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    Steve Lund is from Canada.
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    Jack Derge (UK)
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  • ThunderballThunderball playing Chemin de Fer in a casino, downing Vespers
    edited September 2020 Posts: 814
    Tall, handsome with a hint of cruelty? Of the six we've had, Connery and Dalton and to a lesser degree Craig are the closest to that. In my view, of the actors floated in this thread, Aidan Turner and Michael Fassbender (too old now... *sigh*) fit this description best.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    edited September 2020 Posts: 5,131
    Since62 wrote: »
    5'9 3/4" tall per IMDB for R Madden, as was Richard Burton, considered for the role before Connery. Madden's co-star in The Take, Idris Elba, is 6'2 1/2. Tom Hiddlestone looked great in The Night Manager and is 6'1 3/4". Michael Fassbender is 6' even. Aidan Turner, 5'10 1/2". John Gavin -- cast for DAF before Connery returned -- was 6'4". James Brolin -- an American who was screen-tested before Moore returned to the table -- is 6'3".

    Connery: 6'2"
    Lazenby 6' even
    Moore 6'1 3/4"
    Dalton 6'1"
    Brosnan 6'1 1/4"
    Craig 5'10" and that may well be the limit

    You can skip Barry Nelson though he was 5'11 1/2", and Peter Sellers at 5'8" (did not really portray Bond -- was Evelyn Tremble), but David Niven did play Bond and was considered by the Bond film producers before Connery, and was 5'11 1/4".

    Taller guys can be solidly built and not lool "stocky." Not solid enough, and then they're not credible for various aspects of the role. Bond in the novels is tall and thin, not very heavy, but solid enough to be brutal. I know, I know -- Tom Cruise is shorter and does well in the Mission: Impossible films. Bruce Lee was small but could beat nearly anyone else, but that is not the point. Bond should be tall and handsome. Per the books, "with a hint of cruelty." Not a hint -- or more -- of looking worrisome, upset, or unconfident

    It doesn’t matter how tall an actor is if they aren’t British IMO.

    But I agree, a Bond actor needs to be 5ft 10in plus.
  • Goldenheight, I found his weakness.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited September 2020 Posts: 5,970
    Again, I'm gonna put forward Aaron Taylor-Johnson. If we're talking about tall, handsome with a hint of cruelty. 5"11. Obviously handsome, and for cruel, just check him out in Nocturnal Animals, or even Outlaw King.

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  • peterpeter Toronto
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    I always thought Dalton was over 6'2 and closer to 6'3.
  • Tom Bateman looking the part no doubt
  • edited September 2020 Posts: 6,709
    peter wrote: »
    I always thought Dalton was over 6'2 and closer to 6'3.

    Yeah, I've heard he towers over everybody on set. He's really tall. Which is interesting because I never thought that showed on screen. And I'm a huge fan, as far as I'm concerned, he's an underrated giant ;)
  • Denbigh wrote: »
    Again, I'm gonna put forward Aaron Taylor-Johnson. If we're talking about tall, handsome with a hint of cruelty. 5"11. Obviously handsome, and for cruel, just check him out in Nocturnal Animals, or even Outlaw King.

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    Not to be an contrarian but he was one of the weakest parts of Tenet in my opinion. He just lacks impact and I also struggle with his diction - he like Hardy has a tendency to mumble their lines. And, that's got nothing to do with my failing hearing!!! LolZ
  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
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    I think Ben Barnes just fit's the bill for next Bond.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,413
    Univex wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    I always thought Dalton was over 6'2 and closer to 6'3.

    Yeah, I've heard he towers over everybody on set. He's really tall. Which is interesting because I never thought that showed on screen. And I'm a huge fan, as far as I'm concerned, he's an underrated giant ;)

    Yep, I saw him on stage and I was very surprised how big he is- it really doesn't come across on film, perhaps because of his build- he doesn't look as broad as someone like Sean or Roger.
    Which I think perhaps shows that height isn't really all that important, it doesn't even show sometimes.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    edited September 2020 Posts: 5,131
    MSL49 wrote: »
    I think Ben Barnes just fit's the bill for next Bond.

    The guy from ‘Dorian Gray’. I thought that when I watched that film many years ago.

    But I haven’t seen him in anything for years.
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    MSL49 wrote: »
    I think Ben Barnes just fit's the bill for next Bond.

    =))
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
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    MSL49 wrote: »
    I think Ben Barnes just fit's the bill for next Bond.

    He could sing the next song but no.
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
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    Try watching him in Marvel's The Punisher TV series. Or Season 1 of Westworld.

    I like him, but I think he might be getting too old now. He's also a bit slight (not that he couldn't pile on the muscle).
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    Posts: 5,970
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Again, I'm gonna put forward Aaron Taylor-Johnson. If we're talking about tall, handsome with a hint of cruelty. 5"11. Obviously handsome, and for cruel, just check him out in Nocturnal Animals, or even Outlaw King.

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    Not to be an contrarian but he was one of the weakest parts of Tenet in my opinion. He just lacks impact and I also struggle with his diction - he like Hardy has a tendency to mumble their lines. And, that's got nothing to do with my failing hearing!!! LolZ
    Interesting. I mean I actually thought JDW and Brannagh were the weakest part of Tenet, and I actually enjoyed the time he had in that film :)
  • Posts: 15,124
    suavejmf wrote: »
    MSL49 wrote: »
    I think Ben Barnes just fit's the bill for next Bond.

    The guy from ‘Dorian Gray’. I thought that when I watched that film many years ago.

    But I haven’t seen him in anything for years.

    Oh gosh Dorian Gray was terrible! No wonder you haven't seen him in years. He's getting a bit old now, in any case I can't see him as Bond.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,217
    Ben Barnes is 39.

    I didn't think much of him before I saw him in The Punisher; he was quite good in that.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 5,131
    Ludovico wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    MSL49 wrote: »
    I think Ben Barnes just fit's the bill for next Bond.

    The guy from ‘Dorian Gray’. I thought that when I watched that film many years ago.

    But I haven’t seen him in anything for years.

    Oh gosh Dorian Gray was terrible! No wonder you haven't seen him in years. He's getting a bit old now, in any case I can't see him as Bond.

    I quite liked it. Not exactly a faithful adaption, but entertaining. Colin Firth was good in it too.
  • Posts: 15,124
    Ben Barnes is 39.

    I didn't think much of him before I saw him in The Punisher; he was quite good in that.

    I know he's 39. Which would be limit to become Bond right now (other considerations notwithstanding), but in four or five years (at the earliest) would be a tad old.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,217
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Ben Barnes is 39.

    I didn't think much of him before I saw him in The Punisher; he was quite good in that.

    I know he's 39. Which would be limit to become Bond right now (other considerations notwithstanding), but in four or five years (at the earliest) would be a tad old.

    True. Around 35 would be ideal, now.
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    Posts: 4,247
    suavejmf wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    MSL49 wrote: »
    I think Ben Barnes just fit's the bill for next Bond.

    The guy from ‘Dorian Gray’. I thought that when I watched that film many years ago.

    But I haven’t seen him in anything for years.

    Oh gosh Dorian Gray was terrible! No wonder you haven't seen him in years. He's getting a bit old now, in any case I can't see him as Bond.

    I quite liked it. Not exactly a faithful adaption, but entertaining. Colin Firth was good in it too.

    Yeah, not a faithful adaptation of Oscar Wilde's mystery book, but I liked it. I felt Barnes was good as Gray and Yes! Firth stole the show. Also a nice score by Charlie Mole. And Maryam d'abo is in it as well.
  • DeathToSpies84DeathToSpies84 Newton-le-Willows, England
    Posts: 257
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Ben Barnes is 39.

    I didn't think much of him before I saw him in The Punisher; he was quite good in that.

    I know he's 39. Which would be limit to become Bond right now (other considerations notwithstanding), but in four or five years (at the earliest) would be a tad old.

    His screams when Castle dragged his mutilated face down the glass still chills the blood.
  • Posts: 1,630
    As I indicated, I got all the heights for the various actors from IMDB.

    I did not mention it, but OF COURSE he must be British ! Those stories of the producers in the 70s considering John Gavin [though he was trained in the studio system and seems to have gotten the Mid-Atlantic speech training], James Brolin and even Burt Reynolds make me cringe and cramp every time I see them, and I've seen all those stories a number of times.

    As for working with an actor who's older already -- such as Idris Elba, who is built, tall, looks more handsome than ever, but is 48 this month, is holding up exceedingly well, but in over 10-13 years is bound to show some change -- how about working quickly on two or even three films, to be released over a longer period ? That was done rather recently in the Lord of the Rings series and the Harry Potter series. One might think it was done for Kill Bill Vols. 1 and 2, but I understand the original intention was for a single movie, so I don't think they intentionally used the make-em-quick-at-the-same-time and then do post-production and release them over time technique. The problem with this idea is that, for many years, the producers don't seem to have one script ahead of time, much less two or three.

    Something I do find interesting these days is that many actors -- including big, famous ones who already are well-known for serious dramatic films -- are not series-shy or commitment-phobic.
  • Posts: 15,124
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    MSL49 wrote: »
    I think Ben Barnes just fit's the bill for next Bond.

    The guy from ‘Dorian Gray’. I thought that when I watched that film many years ago.

    But I haven’t seen him in anything for years.

    Oh gosh Dorian Gray was terrible! No wonder you haven't seen him in years. He's getting a bit old now, in any case I can't see him as Bond.

    I quite liked it. Not exactly a faithful adaption, but entertaining. Colin Firth was good in it too.

    Yeah, not a faithful adaptation of Oscar Wilde's mystery book, but I liked it. I felt Barnes was good as Gray and Yes! Firth stole the show. Also a nice score by Charlie Mole. And Maryam d'abo is in it as well.

    I thought it was laughably bad. Cheap horror thriller.
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    edited September 2020 Posts: 4,247
    Ludovico wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    MSL49 wrote: »
    I think Ben Barnes just fit's the bill for next Bond.

    The guy from ‘Dorian Gray’. I thought that when I watched that film many years ago.

    But I haven’t seen him in anything for years.

    Oh gosh Dorian Gray was terrible! No wonder you haven't seen him in years. He's getting a bit old now, in any case I can't see him as Bond.

    I quite liked it. Not exactly a faithful adaption, but entertaining. Colin Firth was good in it too.

    Yeah, not a faithful adaptation of Oscar Wilde's mystery book, but I liked it. I felt Barnes was good as Gray and Yes! Firth stole the show. Also a nice score by Charlie Mole. And Maryam d'abo is in it as well.

    I thought it was laughably bad. Cheap horror thriller.

    Yeah. It isn't exactly groundbreaking or a lavish production. It's just a simple and fun film. And I really like Charlie Mole's score.
  • Posts: 15,124
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    MSL49 wrote: »
    I think Ben Barnes just fit's the bill for next Bond.

    The guy from ‘Dorian Gray’. I thought that when I watched that film many years ago.

    But I haven’t seen him in anything for years.

    Oh gosh Dorian Gray was terrible! No wonder you haven't seen him in years. He's getting a bit old now, in any case I can't see him as Bond.

    I quite liked it. Not exactly a faithful adaption, but entertaining. Colin Firth was good in it too.

    Yeah, not a faithful adaptation of Oscar Wilde's mystery book, but I liked it. I felt Barnes was good as Gray and Yes! Firth stole the show. Also a nice score by Charlie Mole. And Maryam d'abo is in it as well.

    I thought it was laughably bad. Cheap horror thriller.

    Yeah. It isn't exactly groundbreaking or a lavish production. It's just a simple and fun film. And I really like Charlie Mole's score.

    It's fun if you haven't read the novel or don't like it. It's one of my favourite novels so...
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    Posts: 4,247
    Ludovico wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    MSL49 wrote: »
    I think Ben Barnes just fit's the bill for next Bond.

    The guy from ‘Dorian Gray’. I thought that when I watched that film many years ago.

    But I haven’t seen him in anything for years.

    Oh gosh Dorian Gray was terrible! No wonder you haven't seen him in years. He's getting a bit old now, in any case I can't see him as Bond.

    I quite liked it. Not exactly a faithful adaption, but entertaining. Colin Firth was good in it too.

    Yeah, not a faithful adaptation of Oscar Wilde's mystery book, but I liked it. I felt Barnes was good as Gray and Yes! Firth stole the show. Also a nice score by Charlie Mole. And Maryam d'abo is in it as well.

    I thought it was laughably bad. Cheap horror thriller.

    Yeah. It isn't exactly groundbreaking or a lavish production. It's just a simple and fun film. And I really like Charlie Mole's score.

    It's fun if you haven't read the novel or don't like it. It's one of my favourite novels so...

    Yeah, I'm not deeply into the novel...a bit of here and there.
  • edited September 2020 Posts: 4,409
    Is anyone talking about Paul Mescal? He's young, buzzy, and popular. He's certainly looking more and more Bondian each time I've seen him. I've only seen a brief clip of him in Normal People and he seems like a good actor, and I've seen him in interviews where he is charming.

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    Also, though I do acknowledge is a little more 'out there' but Harry Styles has become a very buzzworthy actor. He's booked two big projects for next year. He's probably too big a name to be Bond. But he was considered for Han Solo. So perhaps it's not that crazy a suggestion. He's filming a Bond-esque music video in Italy at the moment....He has a look of a young Leonardo DiCaprio.

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