Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    I too don't have a problem with any of them. They all
    have their strengths. :)
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    DrGorner wrote: »
    I have to say I'm a Craig and Dalton fan. Both are fantastic . :)

    83,3 per cent of the Bond actors are.

    True, Lazenby can't be described as fantastic.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    It is open for individual interpretation.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Try saying fantastic in an Australian accent , you might
    want to add bloody to the start and cobber after, to get
    the full impact. :D but I thought Lazenby did a great job.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    On a related note to this topic, from what I saw in MI5, Rebecca Ferguson does a better Bond in some ways than some of our Bond actors have done in some instances.

    I'm all for her being in a spinoff show of her own. Her Ilsa Faust was the standout performance as a British agent for me this year, better than Eggsy, Harry Hart, Merlin, Bradley Fine etc etc..
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Considering Lazenby was a scoundrel and a chancer and got away with it, he did a pretty good job for some guy who literally just walked in from the street and got tge best acting gig in the world. He wasn't even an actor and yet, was more credible being an agent for HMSS moreso than at least 2 other Bond actors.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    I wish I had half his bravado ! ;)
  • RC7RC7
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    DrGorner wrote: »
    Try saying fantastic in an Australian accent , you might
    want to add bloody to the start and cobber after, to get
    the full impact. :D but I thought Lazenby did a great job.

    Lazenby is like Rickie Lambert. Scored on his International debut, then everything beyond that went downhill. The rest cemented themselves as 'Bond', whether some people like them or not.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Lazenby himself said the pressure finally got to him
    He was James Bond, they'd bound to notice he wasn't
    an actor, yet every day he'd be filming, expecting it to
    be his last. :)
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    We'll never know how Lazenby could have matured into the role as Bond, because he never gave himself that shot, idiot that he was. Nevertheless, he did a great job in his first outing, but he had great support in the form of the indubitably brilliant Diana Rigg.

    In a way, his lack of acting training helped him in the more sentimental parts, because he did not overplay it....which is exactly how it should be done when you're being James Bond.
  • RC7RC7
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    bondjames wrote: »
    We'll never know how Lazenby could have matured into the role as Bond, because he never gave himself that shot, idiot that he was. Nevertheless, he did a great job in his first outing, but he had great support in the form of the indubitably brilliant Diana Rigg.

    In a way, his lack of acting training helped him in the more sentimental parts, because he did not overplay it....which is exactly how it should be done when you're being James Bond.

    He struck lucky and we got a great Bond film.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Probably due to his inexperience, he gives a very
    natural performance. He conveys a great sense
    of vulnerability in his romantic scene's, just as
    an agent not used to showing his emotional more
    exposed self.
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    I don't understand people who criticise Laz. He did one film and it's a masterpiece. That's a pretty good strike rate. I would have loved to see Laz to a straight up revenge sequel. You can imagine him doing hate, anger and revenge very well.

    A shame EON didn't realise the potential for an awesome follow up. Hunt directing again. Savalas back as Blofeld. Could have been absolutely Amazing. I don't think Laz would have blown it.
  • RC7RC7
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    Getafix wrote: »
    I don't understand people who criticise Laz. He did one film and it's a masterpiece. That's a pretty good strike rate. I would have loved to see Laz to a straight up revenge sequel. You can imagine him doing hate, anger and revenge very well.

    A shame EON didn't realise the potential for an awesome follow up. Hunt directing again. Savalas back as Blofeld. Could have been absolutely Amazing. I don't think Laz would have blown it.

    I think he got away with it in OHMSS, I'm not convinced he'd have progressed with DAF. There's nothing to suggest it would have been a foregone conclusion looking at his post 69 work. Hunt would have been the key.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    OHMSS was great but not because of Lazenby. His strengths was his look and his fighting skills but his acting was a bit flat. The supporting cast helped as well as John Barry's fantastic score.
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    RC7 wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    I don't understand people who criticise Laz. He did one film and it's a masterpiece. That's a pretty good strike rate. I would have loved to see Laz to a straight up revenge sequel. You can imagine him doing hate, anger and revenge very well.

    A shame EON didn't realise the potential for an awesome follow up. Hunt directing again. Savalas back as Blofeld. Could have been absolutely Amazing. I don't think Laz would have blown it.

    I think he got away with it in OHMSS, I'm not convinced he'd have progressed with DAF. There's nothing to suggest it would have been a foregone conclusion looking at his post 69 work. Hunt would have been the key.

    I agree that it's no way certain. I just think if EON could have kept him nervous and hungry and on edge enough, they could have got a great performance out of him for DAF. He wouldn't have need to act too much. They just needed to get him riled up, angry and nasty. It could have been brilliant. And yes getting Hunt back wod have been pretty essential.

    Instead we got the flabby, bloated (but still actually strangely enjoyable) Connery version.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Connery's lack of pride, and/or distain for the series and producer(s), demonstrated by his physical conditioning and dodgy grooming is what frustrated me about his return to the series. Not that much time had passed; there is no reason that he could not have looked close to how he did in Thunderball. Just look at him in The Great Train Robbery 9 years after Diamonds.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    To be honest I don't think the producers even wanted him back.
    It was a studio excutive who made the last minute deal.
  • edited August 2015 Posts: 1,661
    Considering Lazenby was a scoundrel and a chancer and got away with it, he did a pretty good job for some guy who literally just walked in from the street and got tge best acting gig in the world. He wasn't even an actor and yet, was more credible being an agent for HMSS moreso than at least 2 other Bond actors.

    I wrote a post in the MAN FROM UNCLE thread lamenting poor Henry Cavill's lack of acting training and this might have explained any stiffness on his part (steady on folks, this isn't Carry on Viagra! wih Sid James and Kenneth Williams ;) ) but George Lazenby was pretty good for a non-actor. He did okay without formal training. Growing up I never questioned Lazenby. He was James Bond. Perhaps that's the best measure of a Bond actor - judging them when you're younger. As you get older you tend to view life with more cynical judgemental eyes.

    Given that I lamented Cavill's lack of acting training I'm gonna be a complete hypocrite and suggest we have George Lazenby version 2 for Bond actor #7!
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    doubleoego wrote: »
    Considering Lazenby was a scoundrel and a chancer and got away with it, he did a pretty good job for some guy who literally just walked in from the street and got tge best acting gig in the world. He wasn't even an actor and yet, was more credible being an agent for HMSS moreso than at least 2 other Bond actors.

    Daniel Craig is two other Bond actors?? :)) >:)
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    To all it wasn't a judgement statement or meant as negative.

    I probably should not have said it ...not here to make enemies :(
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    fanbond123 wrote: »
    Considering Lazenby was a scoundrel and a chancer and got away with it, he did a pretty good job for some guy who literally just walked in from the street and got tge best acting gig in the world. He wasn't even an actor and yet, was more credible being an agent for HMSS moreso than at least 2 other Bond actors.

    I wrote a post in the MAN FROM UNCLE thread lamenting poor Henry Cavill's lack of acting training and this might have explained any stiffness on his part (steady on folks, this isn't Carry on Viagra! wih Sid James and Kenneth Williams ;) ) but George Lazenby was pretty good for a non-actor. He did okay without formal training. Growing up I never questioned Lazenby. He was James Bond. Perhaps that's the best measure of a Bond actor - judging them when you're younger. As you get older you tend to view life with more cynical judgemental eyes.

    Given that I lamented Cavill's lack of acting training I'm gonna be a complete hypocrite and suggest we have George Lazenby version 2 for Bond actor #7!

    Formal training doesn't make actors great, talent does. Some actors have done very well without formal training. There's no way of knowing how much better - if at all - someone would be at acting with formal training in it.

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    i sometimes think Dalton's formal training is overstated. didn't he leave RADA after a year, essentially because he couldnt hack it? meanwhile Rog is also RADA but he finished, and yet people make out he is some talentless hack.
  • SarkSark Guangdong, PRC
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    talos7 wrote: »
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    Connery's lack of pride, and/or distain for the series and producer(s), demonstrated by his physical conditioning and dodgy grooming is what frustrated me about his return to the series. Not that much time had passed; there is no reason that he could not have looked close to how he did in Thunderball. Just look at him in The Great Train Robbery 9 years after Diamonds.

    Or look at NSNA
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
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    Getafix wrote: »
    I don't understand people who criticise Laz. He did one film and it's a masterpiece. That's a pretty good strike rate. I would have loved to see Laz to a straight up revenge sequel. You can imagine him doing hate, anger and revenge very well.

    A shame EON didn't realise the potential for an awesome follow up. Hunt directing again. Savalas back as Blofeld. Could have been absolutely Amazing. I don't think Laz would have blown it.

    That's not fair comment on EON if you watch EON documentary Lazenby himself accepts blame. It was the hippy movement the world was not about war but about love. He got in to Bond to be cool and get women. Hippy chics wanted lovers not fighters he didn't feel cool anymore. He began hanging around with Ronan o'rahilly of Radio Caroline which was a famous 60 pirate radio station operating from a boat in the Atlantic which played records to UK radio listeners which were banned on commercial radio. Ronan got him in Weed and psychedelic drugs and poisoned his mind against EON as being capitalists who were controling him. Lazenby says that's his big regret.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    doubleoego wrote: »
    Considering Lazenby was a scoundrel and a chancer and got away with it, he did a pretty good job for some guy who literally just walked in from the street and got tge best acting gig in the world. He wasn't even an actor and yet, was more credible being an agent for HMSS moreso than at least 2 other Bond actors.

    Daniel Craig is two other Bond actors?? :)) >:)

    No.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I'm still rooting for Tom Hiddleston to take over from Craig once he packs it in.

    Although I'm open to other suggestions, I haven't seen any one mentioned on here with the necessary 'edge' other than him.

    All the others are, from my perspective at least, pretty boys and lightweights.

    He may not have the build or the look, but he can bring the necessary gravitas to the role. He's proven that when playing against superstars like Downey Jr.
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
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    Getafix wrote: »
    i sometimes think Dalton's formal training is overstated. didn't he leave RADA after a year, essentially because he couldnt hack it? meanwhile Rog is also RADA but he finished, and yet people make out he is some talentless hack.

    I don't think either of them finished RADA tbh. But yes Dalton's formal training was overstated. He did work with the RSC in later years, so some 'on the job' training there.
    I'm never sure why he is bigged up as a great theatre actor though. His style suggests it certainly, but he was never a theatre actor to rival Richardson, Guiness, Olivier and Geilgud, and never a film actor to rival Connery, Caine or Burton either.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    In a recent issue of Men's Fitness magazine, Cavill mentions his nearly being cast as Bond. He admits to being too young and compliments what Craig has done with the role. At the end though he does say, " Maybe one day I can take it off his hands".
    So, he is leaving the door open
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    talos7 wrote: »
    In a recent issue of Men's Fitness magazine, Cavill mentions his nearly being cast as Bond. He admits to being too young and compliments what Craig has done with the role. At the end though he does say, " Maybe one day I can take it off his hands".
    So, he is leaving the door open

    Somehow I doubt Cavill will succeed Craig.
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