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Sure, but then the kids growing up with Hemsworth as Bond would feel exactly as you do about Roger: he just would be Bond.
You’ve never seen Roger in anything else?
And I see your point, but Roger Moore being the Saint in a television series is a bit different to Hemsworth being Thor, and appearing in multiple franchises. Also, the industry is a lot different than it was then, especially considering how much Marvel specifically, which includes Hemsworth himself, has shaped it in recent times.
You should check them out, they’re lots of fun. I tend to prefer the Persuaders but if you enjoy Bond you’ll probably enjoy them.
...but I just think looking at the way things are today, I just think, not only do we not need another franchise with Hemsworth in the lead, I just think James Bond deserves an actor whose going to become that character and be that character for a whole audience and generation, not just be this famous actor doing the stuff James Bond does.
I love the Saint with Roger, it’s brilliant.
I’m recording all the Persuaders to watch as I’ve never seen it properly.
Sir Roger was such an obvious choice and a safe bet for Bond in 73.
On the subject of Roger Moore, I don't think his portrayal is as far removed from Fleming's ideal as most people seem to assume. When people say that Moore plays it lightly, it doesn't mean he can't be brutal. It has always seemed odd to me that people always refer to kicking Loque off the cliff, but not the way Moore's Bond deals with Sandor, or the way he kills Stromberg.
And onscreen fighting has come a long way in the last 50 years, but I happen to really like most of the fist fights in the Moore era (with the exception of AVTAK obviously). There's some great punch ups in The Saint too.
Based on his looks alone I was very enthusiastic about Cavill; but as time passed, and with each performance, even in MI, my enthusiasm has waned . I find him flat, and I can always sense him “acting” .
Hemsworth has that sort of popular charisma, for sure. But if that's the criteria then nearly all the usual candidates would be disqualified.
Maybe we differ on what charisma actually means here, but personally I would say that charisma as I understand it - basically the sort of guy who has a popular personality with lots of people - is not required for the character of James Bond. The ability to seduce is not the same as being charismatic, though clearly it can help and the talents cross over.
And when we are talking about seduction, we can see how awkward the seduction scenes are in Craig's films. They are really iffy, with embarrassing lines, and cringey moves ("help me find the stationary"). In SF they even have him just appearing in the shower so it looks as if he's crept up on an unsuspecting woman.
In other words, Craig's Bond makes up for this lack of charisma with women (only talking onscreen here, not really life), by being good in the role in other areas. I don't see why that can't be the strategy for other acutes in the role. Nobody is perfect, after all.
And finally, on the issue of 'acting'. I think we are overestimating what it takes to play Bond. And without being overly negative about Craig in this post, his acting ability is rather overstated on these boards I think.
Hemsworth is a better star presence in a movie though.
It’s not really assumption, more observation. He’s not really playing the character from the books. I have no problem with that though!
I would say Craig has loads of it. Dalton indeed doesn’t as Bond, and his Bond was possibly the least popular. I would say the two are linked.
I agreed about Sam Claflin.
Agreed. Worth a screen test.
Charisma in an actor I'd define by how well he (or she) holds your attention on screen. Connery had bags of it - when he comes onscreen in Highlander, the whole movie gets a very noticeable lift. He does this in nearly all of his films, regardless of the type of role. Steve McQueen had it, managing to hold your attention even when he had no lines; he was a consummate scene-stealer, often dragging the audiences' attention away from whoever he was playing against in scenes. Denzel Washington has it, and even in dull films he is electric.
I think Roger Moore had it, but only really when he playing toward his light-comedic strengths (though he does display decent dramatic skills in The Man Who Haunted Himself). I think Chris Hemsworth is similar, in that he's great as Thor, but absolutely cannot bring any shine to his dead-straight role in Blackhat. It's a dud of a film, and I don't think any actor could have saved it, but I do think Daniel Craig would have brought more interest to the role, because I think he has an intensity to his acting that helps dramatic scenes. I think Hemsworth would work if you wanted to play things lighter, but I don't think he'd have been as good as Craig in Casino Royale. Craig is weaker at the lighter stuff.
When it comes to charisma I'm of the opinion that a number of the actors in the running have it, but often more when going for lighter roles. Actors that can be charismatic regardless of the type of role are few and far between; I think Bond is a role that requires both an intensity and a lightness of touch, and someone who can do both and is of the right stature and age... that's difficult to find. If you could combine Hemsworth's charm and physicality with Jack O'Connell's dramatic intensity, now then we'd be talking.
I used to dislike Cavill (as Superman mainly) but as I see no genuine contenders, I'm sorry to say he may be the best choice. This doesn't mean I think he has a chance at getting the part, but that I think he suits the part the most.
I think we all agree that Fassbender would have been great, but I can't see it happening. I also think he is also too good of an actor to bother with it. As much as I would like to see him as Bond, I'd rather see him doing more interesting and challenging films over the time being Bond occupies. I was a fan of Craig before Bond and it's a shame that he has since stopped taking challenging dramatic roles in lower budget films. Enduring Love, The Mother, Some Voices and many others..
Yeah I'd say it's about magnetism, whether you can take your eyes off them, whether they fill the screen. I'd say all but two of the Bonds have had it, and of those two Dalton isn't too bad. I think even though he was never going to be the best actor in the world, something like DAD actually survives because Brosnan has a decent presence in it.
Woah....When did Nicholas Hoult get so sexy? Damn...Okay, now I can see why he was in contention for the Batman role opposite Pattinson. I think hoult could be the man to beat.
It's just his body of work - outside that mischievous role in Mad Max - that doesn't inspire confidence. Perhaps if he can nab a killer role or two in some great films. I mean it wasn't like Pattinson was killing it until his streak from Good Time, The Lighthouse to High-Life.
So Hoult has plenty of time to get some more high-value projects over the next two years. I'm actually glad he dropped out of Mission Impossible, he's better suited to indies. Hopefully, he can break through again.
The Bond universe will unfold as it should, whomever they pick....
I was one of the first , if not the first to suggest Hoult and was roundly dismissed.
There is no way that he’s not on EON’s radar.
In recent years they’ve gone after established directors, writers, composers and actors. Hoult is exactly what they like ; he’s a strong actor, well known but not a megastar and he’s not tied to another franchise. X-Men is well in the past, and he was in heavy prosthetics. He’s got the charm and acting chops; get him together with a good fight coordinator and he’s good to go.
B26 could be called About a Man.
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Lol, that’s a good one, but would actually be great casting.
Actually I was just imagining him as Denbeigh in Spectre: I genuinely think that would have been much better.