Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    Murdock wrote: »
    MSL49 wrote: »
    You made that? Nice work.

    Yes I did, and thank you. :)

    It’s excellent.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    MSL49 wrote: »
    You made that? Nice work.

    Yes I did, and thank you. :)

    It’s excellent.

    Thank you. :-bd
  • edited October 2020 Posts: 4,408
    Murdock wrote: »
    Cavill is the only one I'm rooting for to be the next Bond. Everyone else mentioned makes me scratch my head.

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    Wow! Seriously impressive!!!! Reminds me of the TWINE theatrical poster (which is my favourite Bond poster of recent years).

    Could you do the same for Timothee Chalamet? I'd love to see a proper mock-up.

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  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
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    How about Armie Hammer?
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    MSL49 wrote: »
    How about Armie Hammer?
    Oo not for me personally, I actually think he's a poorer actor than Cavill.
  • Definitely take him over Cavill. He was really good in Hotel Mumbai.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    edited October 2020 Posts: 5,131
    MSL49 wrote: »
    How about Armie Hammer?

    He’s not British???

    O% possibly.

    Personally, I don’t want an American actor anywhere near the role of Bond.
  • Posts: 15,114
    talos7 wrote: »
    Good voice. This is a pretty upbeat bit but I think he has a good range and can go deeper when needed.


    He doesn't need much more. I can't believe I'm starting to think he could actually work.
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
    edited October 2020 Posts: 4,043
    Craig made Bond dangerous and believable after his predecessor had turned the character into a cartoon character with all the depth of a piece of cardboard.

    Casting some plank of wood like Henry Cavill would be a backwards step and despite some fans willing it, thankfully Barbara won't be looking at him for the role.

    Seriously you really think after casting DC she is going to go for someone like Cavill?

    Bond might go more lighter but casting second rate actors after someone the calibre of DC, you lot are having a laugh.
  • FatherValentineFatherValentine England
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    Shardlake wrote: »
    Craig made Bond dangerous and believable after his predecessor had turned the character into a cartoon character with all the depth of a piece of cardboard.

    Casting some plank of wood like Henry Cavill would be a backwards step and despite some fans willing it, thankfully Barbara won't be looking at him for the role.

    Seriously you really think after casting DC she is going to go for someone like Cavill?

    Bond might go more lighter but casting second rate actors after someone the calibre of DC, you lot are having a laugh.

    There's not a single scene in the entirety of Craig's tenure as Bond that couldn't be delivered just as well by someone like Cavill.

    The scenes in CR where he's recovering post-torture, and him and Greene are going on about little fingers, and where he's with Solange talking about bad boys, are so cringe worthy I can barely watch.

    The wink in SF, plus the awkward walking backwards and pointing at a big lizard in the casino scene, are also incredibly self-conscious moments that don't feel natural at all.

    I am not trying to do the man down, but there are plenty of moments in Craig's films that hundreds of actors could have done better.

    Actually, maybe there is no actor in history that could make the Solange and Vesper scenes work. Either way, it is not like Craig saves those moments due to his 'acting calibre'.


  • Agent_Zero_OneAgent_Zero_One Ireland
    edited October 2020 Posts: 554
    Is it strange I actually quite like the little wink Bond gives Mallory in SF?
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Craig's range as Bond is woefully overstated. In each of his movie's he's one note and incapable of showing any other emotion besides miserable brooding.
  • FatherValentineFatherValentine England
    edited October 2020 Posts: 737
    Obviously all this sounds like I am overly negative towards Craig. Nobody is perfect and all the actors have their drawbacks and strengths. I am just of the opinion that his performance as Bond is not natural to me. And when people write that 'Craig is Bond', I would counter that it's a matter of opinion. His voice and the delivery of his lines leave a lot to be desired, and he is miscast in the role.

    He takes it seriously, sometimes (only sometimes) looks good, and has plenty of quality moments throughout the series. His ability in the action scenes is often impressive.

    But he has been let down by poor scripts, and is easily replaceable. The notion that he has set a new benchmark for the series in terms of performance is not something I recognise.


  • Agent_Zero_OneAgent_Zero_One Ireland
    edited October 2020 Posts: 554
    I'd say miscast is an overstatement, @FatherValentine. I wouldn't trade his performances in his first three films for any other actor's. And I don't find anything wrong with his voice or delivery (well, except for maybe a few moments in SP), although that's clearly a matter of individual subjectivity.
  • FatherValentineFatherValentine England
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    I'd say miscast is an overstatement, @FatherValentine. I wouldn't trade his performances in his first three films for any other actor's. And I don't find anything wrong with voice or delivery (well, except for maybe a few moments in SP), although that's clearly a matter of opinion.

    Of course. It's all opinions.

    Plus my comment about his voice is harsh, because he can't help it.

    And I will be forever grateful to the man for taking the role seriously.

    My point is that he is easily replaceable - even by someone like Cavill (who is far from my number one choice).
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited October 2020 Posts: 16,369
    Shardlake wrote: »
    Craig made Bond dangerous and believable after his predecessor had turned the character into a cartoon character with all the depth of a piece of cardboard.

    Casting some plank of wood like Henry Cavill would be a backwards step and despite some fans willing it, thankfully Barbara won't be looking at him for the role.

    Seriously you really think after casting DC she is going to go for someone like Cavill?

    Bond might go more lighter but casting second rate actors after someone the calibre of DC, you lot are having a laugh.

    There's not a single scene in the entirety of Craig's tenure as Bond that couldn't be delivered just as well by someone like Cavill.

    Goodness me, everyone's entitled to their opinion and everything but I can't agree with yours on that one at all. I've never been impressed by Cavill's delivery in any scene I've ever seen him in (I'm not saying any have stuck out as being terrible, they're just not impressive), unlike with Craig. For my taste I just can't imagine him delivering half of those scenes as well.

    What are you saying is wrong with his voice? It's the one thing I've never seen anyone complain about before.
  • FatherValentineFatherValentine England
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    Which scenes in Craig's films would be beyond Cavill?
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited October 2020 Posts: 16,369
    Which scenes in Craig's films would be beyond Cavill?

    There wouldn't be any point in listing them. If you've decided, you've decided.

    Off the top of my head, I've never seen Cavill do anything like the torture scene in CR: where Craig suffers extreme pain and then delivers a brilliant joke, and then seamlessly returns to grimly knowing that he's about to die. Cavill always seems generally more of a 'smell the fart' actor to me rather than someone who actually feels these things and can time them.
  • FatherValentineFatherValentine England
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    That's because Cavill has not been in that film.

    Craig hadn't done anything exactly like that scene either prior to CR.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited October 2020 Posts: 16,369
    That's because Cavill has not been in that film.

    Craig hadn't done anything exactly like that scene either prior to CR.

    That's nonsense logic. By the same logic you can't possibly state that he'd do just as well in those scenes.

    Craig had shown that he's a very talented actor plenty of times before CR. Cavill still hasn't 15 years later.
  • FatherValentineFatherValentine England
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    It's the exact same logic you used.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited October 2020 Posts: 16,369
    It's the exact same logic you used.

    Yes, because you suggested it! :D
    I used your own logic back to you and now suddenly you're saying it doesn't make sense. :))

    In case you don't recall:
    Which scenes in Craig's films would be beyond Cavill?
    :))
  • FatherValentineFatherValentine England
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    I didn't say it didn't make sense. You did.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    I like Cavill, but he doesn’t hold a candle to Craig as an actor
  • FatherValentineFatherValentine England
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    talos7 wrote: »
    I like Cavill, but he doesn’t hold a candle to Craig as an actor

    Possibly. But he could play James Bond just as well.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited October 2020 Posts: 16,369
    I didn't say it didn't make sense. You did.

    You genuinely think asking for an example and then immediately stating all examples are invalid makes sense?

    To make it clear for you: you said he would do all scenes just as well as Craig, and then you said it's impossible to know how he would do in those scenes because he's never done them.

    Good grief :))
    talos7 wrote: »
    I like Cavill, but he doesn’t hold a candle to Craig as an actor

    Absolutely, which is why Craig will always be a better Bond.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    edited October 2020 Posts: 16,351
    Cavill could play a great Bond in the style of Moore and Brosnan. He has natural charisma and oozes confidence. I wouldn't want Cavill to be Bond in the style of Craig. We had that kind of Bond long enough.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Murdock wrote: »
    Cavill could play a great Bond in the style of Moore and Brosnan. He has natural charisma and oozes confidence.

    I really don't think he does though. In UNCLE that's what he's supposed to do and I found him to be just kind of... there. Hugh Grant blows him off the screen whenever he's in a scene with him.
    There are much worse than him, he's not the worst actor I've ever seen in a movie. But I find him so bland.
  • FatherValentineFatherValentine England
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    Cavill could play the scene in CR where he gets tortured just as well as Craig. The fact he hadn't done something similar before CR matters not a jot, because neither had Craig prior to being cast as Bond. Had Cavill been cast in 2005 the argument could easily be reversed.




  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited October 2020 Posts: 16,369
    Cavill could play the scene in CR where he gets tortured just as well as Craig.

    To use your logic: he hasn't done that though so you can't possibly know that ;) "Cavill has not been in that film".
    Had Cavill been cast in 2005 the argument could easily be reversed.

    Not so easily. Craig was already an award-winning movie actor years before that. And he didn't get cast because Craig was better.
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