Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    Benny wrote: »
    Granted Turner does look good in a tux, lighting a smoke.
    But that's the Bond of the 60's, a smoking Bond isn't a thing anymore. Wrong or right.
    But can Turner carry a franchise film of unique magnitude?
    Would the general pubic accept him?
    Yes he has potential, but is it enough to make him Bond?

    Beside, any actor can wear a tuxedo and light a smoke. Surely there's more to Bond than that.

    Well, there's lighting a smoke and lighting a smoke. Some do it better than others, 360 degrees.

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    Ludovico wrote: »
    Benny wrote: »
    Granted Turner does look good in a tux, lighting a smoke.
    But that's the Bond of the 60's, a smoking Bond isn't a thing anymore. Wrong or right.
    But can Turner carry a franchise film of unique magnitude?
    Would the general pubic accept him?
    Yes he has potential, but is it enough to make him Bond?

    Beside, any actor can wear a tuxedo and light a smoke. Surely there's more to Bond than that.

    Well, there's lighting a smoke and lighting a smoke. Some do it better than others, 360 degrees.

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    Too bad it won't be him :( A true shame, I'd say.
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
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    Univex wrote: »
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    Benny wrote: »
    Granted Turner does look good in a tux, lighting a smoke.
    But that's the Bond of the 60's, a smoking Bond isn't a thing anymore. Wrong or right.
    But can Turner carry a franchise film of unique magnitude?
    Would the general pubic accept him?
    Yes he has potential, but is it enough to make him Bond?

    Beside, any actor can wear a tuxedo and light a smoke. Surely there's more to Bond than that.

    Well, there's lighting a smoke and lighting a smoke. Some do it better than others, 360 degrees.

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    Too bad it won't be him :( A true shame, I'd say.

    There is absolutely no proof that it won't be him, dear Univex. But you sound a little cynical, so I'll let it slide ;)
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    Benny wrote: »
    Granted Turner does look good in a tux, lighting a smoke.
    But that's the Bond of the 60's, a smoking Bond isn't a thing anymore. Wrong or right.
    But can Turner carry a franchise film of unique magnitude?
    Would the general pubic accept him?
    Yes he has potential, but is it enough to make him Bond?

    Beside, any actor can wear a tuxedo and light a smoke. Surely there's more to Bond than that.

    Yes indeed, that's why I joked about that GIF constantly popping up! :) It's not really proof of an actor's ability.
    TJCath wrote: »
    What about Oliver Jackson Cohen...
    Or Tom Cullen
    Both not very well known, British, and looking the part..

    Interesting; I need to check out Invisible Man, I could imagine Cohen being a contender.
  • edited October 2021 Posts: 15,124
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Benny wrote: »
    Granted Turner does look good in a tux, lighting a smoke.
    But that's the Bond of the 60's, a smoking Bond isn't a thing anymore. Wrong or right.
    But can Turner carry a franchise film of unique magnitude?
    Would the general pubic accept him?
    Yes he has potential, but is it enough to make him Bond?

    Beside, any actor can wear a tuxedo and light a smoke. Surely there's more to Bond than that.

    Well, there's lighting a smoke and lighting a smoke. Some do it better than others, 360 degrees.

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    Nobody does it better. Literally.

    @mtm that GIF with Turner lighting a smoke, wearing a tux is like today's BMW advert with Clive Owen. It doesn't really demonstrate anything.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Yes, and I tend to think the greatest bullet we ever dodged was Owen! :)
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    mtm wrote: »
    Yes, and I tend to think the greatest bullet we ever dodged was Owen! :)

    Me too! I never understood the appeal.
  • HildebrandRarityHildebrandRarity Centre international d'assistance aux personnes déplacées, Paris, France
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    Owen looked good in a tux in Croupier. But he has a limited range of emotions. He's great when the part is in line with them, where he carries some anxiety or some deep sadness, but he can be bland otherwise.
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    Owen looked good in a tux in Croupier. But he has a limited range of emotions. He's great when the part is in line with them, where he carries some anxiety or some deep sadness, but he can be bland otherwise.

    That's my issue with him: he looks so darn bland! And there's something in his eyes and general demeanour that comes off as haggard.
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    Never liked Owen.
  • Univex wrote: »
    Never liked Owen.
    Mr. Mushmouth McMumbles... Yep, I agree.

    (Clive Owen's in this? Better flip on the subtitles...)

  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    I'm personally still on the Callum Turner or Sam Claflin train. Callum is actually starring in Masters of the Air, with Cary Fukunaga directing the first three episodes, and they've been hanging out quite a bit recently.

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    CraterGuns wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Never liked Owen.
    Mr. Mushmouth McMumbles... Yep, I agree.

    (Clive Owen's in this? Better flip on the subtitles...)

    He often looks and sounds like a boxer who's had one too many fights and one too many drinks. He's not a bad actor, I just don't see him as Bond.
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    CraterGuns wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Never liked Owen.
    Mr. Mushmouth McMumbles... Yep, I agree.

    (Clive Owen's in this? Better flip on the subtitles...)

    He often looks and sounds like a boxer who's had one too many fights and one too many drinks. He's not a bad actor, I just don't see him as Bond.

    I'm about 98% confident that Croupier served as the entirety of why he was a contender. I think he's a great actor and that is a magnificent film with arguably his best work as an actor, but he only exudes very specific, partial elements of Bond's swagger in a few scenes. I don't really understand how it was enough to render him a viable candidate for the role.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    I'm personally still on the Callum Turner or Sam Claflin train. Callum is actually starring in Masters of the Air, with Cary Fukunaga directing the first three episodes, and they've been hanging out quite a bit recently.

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    I agree with Claflin.
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    CraterGuns wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Never liked Owen.
    Mr. Mushmouth McMumbles... Yep, I agree.

    (Clive Owen's in this? Better flip on the subtitles...)

    He often looks and sounds like a boxer who's had one too many fights and one too many drinks. He's not a bad actor, I just don't see him as Bond.

    I'm about 98% confident that Croupier served as the entirety of why he was a contender. I think he's a great actor and that is a magnificent film with arguably his best work as an actor, but he only exudes very specific, partial elements of Bond's swagger in a few scenes. I don't really understand how it was enough to render him a viable candidate for the role.

    Did you never watch Chancer?
  • edited October 2021 Posts: 6,709
    What about Théo James? He's been in a lot of period dramas, and has now voiced the animated Witcher series. Has a strong deep voice and the eyebrows, oh and can act. He's also a bit old school, speaks well, hates social media, like DC, has done theatre, he's 36 and if chosen next year he'd be the same age as Dan was. And he reminds me a bit of Connery, with the voice and eyebrows. And I think he'd bring in lots of different demographics.

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  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    I wouldn t be surprised if it s James.
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    I wouldn t be surprised if it s James.

    Me neither, the guy as a massive fan base, is well recognised, has done tv, stage and film, has an overall good attitude, a rather healthy masculinity and good manners, is well spoken, and he has something of a Connery vibe, with the deep voice and dynamic eyebrows. And he's the right age.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Univex wrote: »
    I wouldn t be surprised if it s James.

    Me neither, the guy as a massive fan base, is well recognised, has done tv, stage and film, has an overall good attitude, a rather healthy masculinity and good manners, is well spoken, and he has something of a Connery vibe, with the deep voice and dynamic eyebrows. And he's the right age.

    If based solely upon the power of the brow!

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    talos7 wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    I wouldn t be surprised if it s James.

    Me neither, the guy as a massive fan base, is well recognised, has done tv, stage and film, has an overall good attitude, a rather healthy masculinity and good manners, is well spoken, and he has something of a Connery vibe, with the deep voice and dynamic eyebrows. And he's the right age.

    If based solely upon the power of the brow!

    "The power of the brow"- Bond 26 title :D
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    :))
  • SimonSimon Keeping The British End Up...
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    I'm about 98% confident that Croupier served as the entirety of why he was a contender.

    Croupier (and BMW) provided some nice stills as to the Bond look, but I think the performances in Closer and Children of Men give a taste of what could have been a different take on Bond. I'm glad we got DC, but I think Owen would have worked in a different way as well. I wouldn't change Bardem in Skyfall, but I think Owen would have been a cracking choice for that role as well.

    I am at a loss as to who I would want next though. DC was a bit of a left field choice in the grand scheme of things, so hopefully there is someone in the wings similarly ready to trample my expectations. Very few of the suggestions so far give me any real excitement at seeing them take up the Walther.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    I love the BMW spots; they brought in some great directors.
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    talos7 wrote: »
    I love the BMW spots; they brought in some great directors.

    And they really did their job well, I still like that z4 model more than the recent ones, despite prefering the z3.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I've still got one.
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    mtm wrote: »
    I've still got one.

    I know, the coupe, right? Brilliant car.
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    Here’s a question which I am sure will open a pandora’s box of answers, but if the actor next cast as Bond is caucasian, will they be barraged by the press over “why you and not a black british, asian british etc actor”. For me it seems EON are in a bit of a corner regardless of who they chose due to the discussion around the issue that has been generated, and will continue to be.

    My personal stance is that it is irrelevant, and its down to them to prove in their movie they are a worthy Bond, as all the previous Bonds have had to do.
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    Mallory wrote: »
    Here’s a question which I am sure will open a pandora’s box of answers, but if the actor next cast as Bond is caucasian, will they be barraged by the press over “why you and not a black british, asian british etc actor”. For me it seems EON are in a bit of a corner regardless of who they chose due to the discussion around the issue that has been generated, and will continue to be.

    My personal stance is that it is irrelevant, and its down to them to prove in their movie they are a worthy Bond, as all the previous Bonds have had to do.

    I'm thinking they'll be too much into dismantling and analysing the new fella on his own, to ramble about him being caucasian as usual. That'll give two or three headlines and quickly go away. I, for one, will be dismissive of it. The actor should be close to the depiction of the original character as it's present in the books. IMO, James Bond is caucasian, son of a Scottish man and a Swiss woman. Hair colour or eye colour is a small matter, but race is no small thing, IMO. If we were talking about a non-literary character, my opinion would be on the opposite field, but as a writer myself I'm rather keen to respect original literary material. IMO, of course.

    All races are equal and should be given equal rights, this is, for me, an absolute. But if a character is written as being of a certain race and has some very well written characteristics, one should strive to use that. I, for one, will always prefer David Suchet as Poirot, and not Peter Ustinov or Kenneth Branagh, as wonderful actors as they are, for example. And this example had nothing to do with race. But I wouldn't prefer an asian Harry Potter to Daniel Radcliffe's, simply because JKR wrote him as caucasian. Just because of that. If she had written him differently, or in a more open to interpretation fashion, I'd be all for it, of course.
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    As long as Rege-Jean Page picks projects wisely over the next 2-3 years, he may very well have the role in the bag. He's a superstar in the making. I've read some reports this weekend from the London Film Festival that Page stopped the room dead when he came in for a screening. Apparently there were audible gasps. He just has 'movie star' written all over him.

    I'm pretty certain that Eon have him earmarked. Women love him, he just needs to win over male audiences. Which I'm sure his recent film projects could do....

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    The thing Page has going for him is that he reminds me of a cross between Colin Salmon and Denzel Washington. In respect to the latter, he would have been a terrific Bond in the 1990's. Wasn't there even a rumour that he was considered for Goldeneye? I think if Craig bought a Steve McQueen-swagger to 007, then Page could bring the charisma and heroic charm of Denzel Washington to Bond. That would be a helluva feat if he could pull it off. Personally, I think he could do it. We have seen him play a Byron/Bronte-esque character. However, we need to see more of him.

    Meanwhile, Denzel could of been Bond. Even if his English accent in Queen and Country was horrendous.

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