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They all have to start somewhere :).
Very true, it just seemed to go stratospheric for him very quickly!
George MacKay? A fine actor, absolutely. But he is not handsome or dashing, or attractive, or even rugged, and he never will be. So what on earth makes him suitable for Bond?
The exact same goes for Daniel Kalyuua. Leaving aside the issue of skin colour, even those most opposed to Idris Elba will concede that he is a handsome, rugged, attractive man, who has qualities that we associate with Bond. Can we really say the same for Kalyuua?
Now, I understand that beauty is in the eye of the beholder and I am no Brad Pitt myself, but these guys are not famous for their Bond like qualities in the slightest. They are odd looking character actors, and extremely talented ones at that. But they can genuinely be considered for James Bond then quite frankly all bets are off.
I get that people are fantasising about different casting possibilities, but where is the line? Not that I am trying to police people's suggestions, feel free to throw up other names of course. I am just wondering how far people are prepared to stray from the general physical ballpark of how Bond has been portrayed in the past?
There doesn't have to be a line: we're not actually casting Bond here, just throwing ideas around on an internet forum. If you don't like one or you can't see it then you can say that you're not feeling it or explain why if you want. Or you can just ignore it if you want also.
You can draw your own personal line about what you'd be looking for in a Bond and that's fine, I do too, but no-one else is obliged to share that same line.
There's another thread on here where people are suggesting possible titles for a new Bond film: no-one is getting angry or declaring that the suggestions are 'ludicrous' in there or that there has to be some sort of line drawn about what can and can't be suggested. That would be silly: it's just a bit of fun on a fansite.
Was not impressed with him in The Nightingale, and I thought I was going to be. In fact, that was the film that convinced me that Nicholas Hoult might be the best candidate out there. However, perhaps that film didn't serve Claflin well. I know other people rate him highly.
(and when I say I didn't rate him in that film, I mean as Bond. He was good in the film).
I'm keeping an eye on this thread for all new suggestions though because I'm still not totally sold.
I just hope they go for a conventional option for Bond #7 but I have a feeling we're not going to get that this time
Oh, ok. I've never seen Downton Abbey, taken at face value, it's not normally my sort of thing. But now I might have to look into it.
If that's a bad picture of him then I'd like to see a good one. I don't know this actor but I think on looks alone he's fine.
It’s an interesting question, because everyone seems to draw the line differently.
For me, physical appearances really don’t matter that much. Not many of the previous actors really look like eachother imo, and I don’t picture any of them when I’m reading the novels. So, I’ve never been that bothered about height or hair colour, and I don’t think skin colour matters anymore either.
For me, what defines the modern version of the character is that he’s smooth, dangerous, British and upper class. He’s always been white, and he’s always been 5ft 11 minimum, but I don’t think he necessarily has to be. You could slot Idris Elba or Jack O’Connell into the last few films without having to alter a line of the script.
So, physically, I guess I don’t have much preference. As long as they’re good looking enough to convince as a womaniser and fit enough to convince as a man of action, I’m not really bothered.
Presence is the main thing imo. Cillian Murphy for example would be a very unconventional choice physically, but I think he’s got the presence to pull it off (I know too old/famous/etc, he’ll never get it, just an example to prove my point). Oozes old school cool in Peaky Blinders. Whereas Henry Cavill looks like someone has made the most traditionally perfect looking (in the conventional tall dark and handsome mould) guy for Bond in a lab but based off his previous work, I think he’d be too robotic to convince me.
I think its the suit as I instantly jumped to mr bean for some reason I've no idea why it just happened! Yeah hes a decent looking lad though.
Great post, yeah I totally agree with that.
Murphy is an excellent example- from a photo of him I'd have said no, but in Peaky he's just so totally in control and you can't take your eyes off him, which is what I think Bond needs. And he's cool in it too, as you say, which you really don't see very often.
Tom Hardy is another: you see him in something and he is a proper star of films, and I don't doubt at all he'd be very good in Bond. There are many reasons why I think it's unlikely to be him, but it wouldn't be because he couldn't do it.
I don't get it either. It was not a spoiler that this would be Daniel's last film. That has been common knowledge for years.
Parking Pataweyo to Bond.... :-O
Was it Harry & Paul?
I like Claflin. I think he had a hair transplant recently. Good for him, I'd say. Looks even better now.
At the moment, In my top 5.
Who are the other 4, @talos7?
Jack Lowden
Aidan Turner. ( I know some are tired of hearing his
, but he has a great look and voice; he’s
also at the right level of fame)
Nicholas Hoult.
Theo James.
Yes, all very traditional candidates, but sometimes the wheel doesn’t need reinventing and the obvious is the right choice. Bond has been deconstructed enough. I’m ready for an agent in his prime who is sent on missions and has fun along the way.
+1
I like your list of candidates @talos7 , though I'm not 100% sold on Theo James.
However, I’m ready for an agent in his prime who is sent on missions and has fun along the way.
A list very, very close to my own, @talos7 ;)
I don’t see why you couldn’t do a standard Bond on a mission film (probably the best direction to go on post Craig, I agree) with a more unconventional choice though. I’d like someone who can bring something a bit different to it personally. Craig has been Bond for so long that I think it needs reinventing.
Yeah I think Tom Hardy could have been very good, it’s a shame we’ll never get to see what he could do with it. What I like about him is that he’s really unafraid to go big with his parts. Plays it right on the border of chewing the scenery at times, but never strays that far. I think that sort of big, colourful acting style could’ve given us something fresh, and contrasted nicely with Craig’s subtlety. He’s unlikely to get it, but I think it’d be good if they could find another actor in that vein.