Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Like Brosnan did? It's just the fashion, it's not to compensate for anything.
    Well, Brosnan with all his flaws looked more manly than many current contenders, at least when he became Bond (maybe not when he nearly got the role). It might not be to compensate anything, but they all seem to have babyface partially hidden by a beard.

    It may be that we are getting older. Lol.

  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Like Brosnan did? It's just the fashion, it's not to compensate for anything.
    Well, Brosnan with all his flaws looked more manly than many current contenders

    Not really, no.

    Ludovico wrote: »
    It might not be to compensate anything, but they all seem to have babyface partially hidden by a beard.

    No, it's just fashion. Most of the names suggested look fine. As I said on the previous page, Connery wore facial hair most of his life, I guess he was a baby too :D
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Actors do look younger, longer than they did in decades past. One of the big differences is that , in general, they don’t bake in the sun like the old school actors. That alone prolongs a more youthful look.
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    talos7 wrote: »
    I post this with the caveat that I was 22 when I took it, and I wouldn't want to be Bond *now* but rather in about a decade.


    No doubt EON will take note.
    ;)

    My hope is that over the next decade I can find a way to have gotten their attention.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    talos7 wrote: »
    Actors do look younger, longer than they did in decades past. One of the big differences is that , in general, they don’t bake in the sun like the old school actors. That alone prolongs a more youthful look.

    I don't know, watching The Persuaders I wouldn't have said Roger and Tony looked incredibly old, but they were both mid 40s. Roger was older than Sean and looked great on it; maybe it just comes down to people being different.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    talos7 wrote: »
    Don Johnson started a stubble trend in the 80’s; it’s cyclical.

    What I find more frustrating are thin , unremarkable voices.

    James is one of the exceptions


    Theo James is fast becoming one of my favourites to take on the role.
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    mtm wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Like Brosnan did? It's just the fashion, it's not to compensate for anything.
    Well, Brosnan with all his flaws looked more manly than many current contenders

    Not really, no.

    Ludovico wrote: »
    It might not be to compensate anything, but they all seem to have babyface partially hidden by a beard.

    No, it's just fashion. Most of the names suggested look fine. As I said on the previous page, Connery wore facial hair most of his life, I guess he was a baby too :D

    But Sean Connery did not need to wear facial hair to look manly!
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Like Brosnan did? It's just the fashion, it's not to compensate for anything.
    Well, Brosnan with all his flaws looked more manly than many current contenders

    Not really, no.

    Ludovico wrote: »
    It might not be to compensate anything, but they all seem to have babyface partially hidden by a beard.

    No, it's just fashion. Most of the names suggested look fine. As I said on the previous page, Connery wore facial hair most of his life, I guess he was a baby too :D

    But Sean Connery did not need to wear facial hair to look manly!

    How do you know these guys are doing that? It's all a bit silly.
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    mtm wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Like Brosnan did? It's just the fashion, it's not to compensate for anything.
    Well, Brosnan with all his flaws looked more manly than many current contenders

    Not really, no.

    Ludovico wrote: »
    It might not be to compensate anything, but they all seem to have babyface partially hidden by a beard.

    No, it's just fashion. Most of the names suggested look fine. As I said on the previous page, Connery wore facial hair most of his life, I guess he was a baby too :D

    But Sean Connery did not need to wear facial hair to look manly!

    How do you know these guys are doing that? It's all a bit silly.

    Maybe they don't do it for that reason but the result is the same.
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    I do think that Bond should be clean-shaven. It's just his style. Skyfall and NTTD are suitable exceptions given that he's gone AWOL in the former and is fully retired in the latter, and I think he has the right amount of stubble for each of those situations (I actually like that he doesn't shave until he gets back to London in NTTD). And obviously in DAD the Korean government didn't supply him with a shaving kit. But generally speaking, he shouldn't have five o'clock shadow and he DEFINITELY should not have a fully grown out beard.
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    I do think that Bond should be clean-shaven. It's just his style. Skyfall and NTTD are suitable exceptions given that he's gone AWOL in the former and is fully retired in the latter, and I think he has the right amount of stubble for each of those situations (I actually like that he doesn't shave until he gets back to London in NTTD). And obviously in DAD the Korean government didn't supply him with a shaving kit. But generally speaking, he shouldn't have five o'clock shadow and he DEFINITELY should not have a fully grown out beard.

    I couldn't agree more. Bond is indeed clean shaven in the novels. No designer stubble, no beard. It just looks cheesy, IMHO, and only a handful of actors can really pull it off.
    Since the current trend is to advocate bearded actors for Bond I hereby nominate THIS guy to replace Daniel Craig.............

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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    I do think that Bond should be clean-shaven. It's just his style. Skyfall and NTTD are suitable exceptions given that he's gone AWOL in the former and is fully retired in the latter, and I think he has the right amount of stubble for each of those situations (I actually like that he doesn't shave until he gets back to London in NTTD). And obviously in DAD the Korean government didn't supply him with a shaving kit. But generally speaking, he shouldn't have five o'clock shadow and he DEFINITELY should not have a fully grown out beard.

    I couldn't agree more. Bond is indeed clean shaven in the novels. No designer stubble, no beard. It just looks cheesy, IMHO, and only a handful of actors can really pull it off.
    Since the current trend is to advocate bearded actors for Bond I hereby nominate THIS guy to replace Daniel Craig.............

    Mel_Gibson_Cannes_2016_2.jpg

    He apparently had good odds in the lead-up to GoldenEye :)) :)) :)) :)) :))
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    I do think that Bond should be clean-shaven. It's just his style. Skyfall and NTTD are suitable exceptions given that he's gone AWOL in the former and is fully retired in the latter, and I think he has the right amount of stubble for each of those situations (I actually like that he doesn't shave until he gets back to London in NTTD). And obviously in DAD the Korean government didn't supply him with a shaving kit. But generally speaking, he shouldn't have five o'clock shadow and he DEFINITELY should not have a fully grown out beard.

    I couldn't agree more. Bond is indeed clean shaven in the novels. No designer stubble, no beard. It just looks cheesy, IMHO, and only a handful of actors can really pull it off.
    Since the current trend is to advocate bearded actors for Bond I hereby nominate THIS guy to replace Daniel Craig.............

    Mel_Gibson_Cannes_2016_2.jpg

    He apparently had good odds in the lead-up to GoldenEye :)) :)) :)) :)) :))

    Yeah, him, Liam Neeson and Hugh Grant.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    ... all I can say is I'm glad we didn't have Mel Gibson in Goldeneye.
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    I finally found someone I'd like to see as the next James Bond. Unfortunately he died a year before Ian Fleming published Casino Royale.

    Henry Edwards!

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    I encountered him at this year's Pordenone Silent Film Festival in Jokeren (1928, aka The Joker), a Danish film by a German director based on a British play set in the French riviera with a British cast.

    Henry Edwards plays the Joker, "the sobriquet given to a gentleman adventurer who always wins, and on this occasion he plays the part of a modern Sir Galahad to two charming sisters in distress."

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    Edwards dashingly embodies an international man of mystery equally skilled at cards and fisticuffs: James Bond avant la lettre. If I was making a Bond during the 1920s he'd be my first choice. But nowadays he's better suited to zombie films.
  • ImpertinentGoonImpertinentGoon Everybody needs a hobby.
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    Has anyone seen Eternals? I heard that Madden isn't all that great in it, although that specific review put that down to the script and the direction more than his acting ability.

    What did you guys think? I do seem to remember that we considered this film a chance for him to catapult himself to the front of the pack, but that doesn't seem like it has happened, right?
  • AceHoleAceHole Belgium, via Britain
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    Benny wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Don Johnson started a stubble trend in the 80’s; it’s cyclical.

    What I find more frustrating are thin , unremarkable voices.

    James is one of the exceptions


    Theo James is fast becoming one of my favourites to take on the role.

    I can see the potential. Good voice is critical, yes, especially in the footsteps of Craig.

    Can this fella act (well)?
  • AceHoleAceHole Belgium, via Britain
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    Has anyone seen Eternals? I heard that Madden isn't all that great in it, although that specific review put that down to the script and the direction more than his acting ability.

    What did you guys think? I do seem to remember that we considered this film a chance for him to catapult himself to the front of the pack, but that doesn't seem like it has happened, right?

    No but I saw Bodyguard BBC series. He is fairly uncharismatic imo, but a decent -to good actor, nothing that leaves a lasting impression.
    DC did, even before CR, have charisma and presence ion screen.
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
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    Like I said before and agree with @Benny , of course Turner #1 but then Theo James #2 and Fassbender #3, older Bond .

    Theo has the look, the voice, the edge Bond needs to have and hopefully (certainly not unimportant) the acting chops. He resembles a young Connery as well somewhat, which is a major plus.

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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    AceHole wrote: »
    Has anyone seen Eternals? I heard that Madden isn't all that great in it, although that specific review put that down to the script and the direction more than his acting ability.

    What did you guys think? I do seem to remember that we considered this film a chance for him to catapult himself to the front of the pack, but that doesn't seem like it has happened, right?

    No but I saw Bodyguard BBC series. He is fairly uncharismatic imo, but a decent -to good actor, nothing that leaves a lasting impression.
    DC did, even before CR, have charisma and presence ion screen.

    Yeah I couldn't quite see it from Bodyguard either. I thought he was a decent lead in it but not, as you say, on the level of Craig in his pre-Bond roles.
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    Yeah, Theo James is my favourite to take on the role. And that's because I really think Turner won't get it.
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    mtm wrote: »
    Interesting fact: NSNA was the final film Connery made without facial hair :)

    I think it was the only one he made without facial hair after DAF and The Anderson Tapes in 1971. After that, he would never be clean shaven again, other than NSNA.
  • I wouldn’t mind Bond having a beard now to be honest, as long as it was well groomed enough to still look stylish. I remember slagging off the idea when we found out about Craig’s SF stubble, but they’ve only gotten more and more common since then.

    I guess I can see an argument in favour of keeping Bond’s appearance timeless, because there’s a danger of dating the films quickly if you follow trends (Brosnan’s banker suits, Moore’s bellbottoms). But after a few films that seemed to hark back to the 60s in some ways, it’d be cool to have a Bond that feels very bang up to date and modern again. If the actor can pull it off, then I don’t see the issue myself. Take Tom Hardy and Idris Elba for example, two names that have been suggested a lot for Bond over the last decade. I think they both look great with beards, and I’d have no trouble buying them as Bond even if they kept it.

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    I don't want a bearded Bond. It just doesn't suit the character imo. Neither would tattoos, a shaved head, long hair, etc. Yes, he may grow a beard due to circumstances (DAD, SF), but otherwise he should be clean shaved.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I wouldn’t mind Bond having a beard now to be honest, as long as it was well groomed enough to still look stylish.

    Yeah I'm not sure it would upset me. A little while ago I was imagining Connery doing another last one around the time of The Rock, and I'm sure if he had he'd have kept the beard on, and I think it would have been fine.
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    Bond would never grow a beard, unless it was required for the assignment. Character traits should not be taken out one by one until it’s just not the character anymore. It’s not a question if we would be bothered if Poirot showed up without his trademark moustache, the question is why would one want to strip the character of a trait, unless it’s because you’re simply not bothered or you want to subvert the character? Why would I want to do that to a character I love for being exactly how and what he is? That just baffles me.

    Oh, it doesn’t matter, you say. Keep saying that until nothing really does. You start with the beard, the hair colour and cut, the race, the height, the trademark mannerisms, the innuendos, and somewhere along that path I wonder where the hell is James Bond?

    But hey, that’s just my (very worried) opinion.
  • Univex wrote: »
    You start with the beard, the hair colour and cut, the race, the height, the trademark mannerisms, the innuendos

    But you’ve made a pretty sudden jump there from his appearance (which has already changed many times before) to character traits. Not really the same thing imo, and I don’t see why changing his appearance again would be a slippery slope to changing personality traits that have always stayed the same.

    A beard in particular is just a fashion thing. No different to Craig’s Bond wearing jeans that Connery wouldn’t be seen dead in, or Moore wearing flares that look ridiculous now. I think it’d be fine.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited November 2021 Posts: 16,368
    Univex wrote: »
    You start with the beard, the hair colour and cut, the race, the height, the trademark mannerisms, the innuendos

    But you’ve made a pretty sudden jump there from his appearance (which has already changed many times before) to character traits. Not really the same thing imo, and I don’t see why changing his appearance again would be a slippery slope to changing personality traits that have always stayed the same.

    A beard in particular is just a fashion thing. No different to Craig’s Bond wearing jeans that Connery wouldn’t be seen dead in, or Moore wearing flares that look ridiculous now. I think it’d be fine.

    Excellent post +1
    We're just talking about the possibility of a beard, let's get some perspective :)
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
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    To be honest, a stubble I wouldn't mind per se, Bond is a busy man. There are far worse things that could alter Bond, discussed until infinitum on here.
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    I do like Theo James as a potential Bond if Turner doesn’t land the part.
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