Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    KenAustin wrote: »
    Tom Ellis from Lucifer right now would be my choice. He fits the mold of the literary Bond, and in Lucifer he certainly displays that Bond-ish swagger.

    I got laughed at for suggesting him a few years ago 😁
  • KenAustinKenAustin United States
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    KenAustin wrote: »
    Tom Ellis from Lucifer right now would be my choice. He fits the mold of the literary Bond, and in Lucifer he certainly displays that Bond-ish swagger.

    I got laughed at for suggesting him a few years ago 😁

    The first time I watched an episode of Lucifer with my wife I immediately saw him as a potential Bond....just couldn't get into Lucifer...but when someone looks like they fit the build for a literary character and people laugh that is usually the first sign that they haven't read much.
  • QsCatQsCat London
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    I know Rupert Penry-Jones has been mentioned here before and I think I recall him not being thought of very favourably. I know he has missed the boat but I’m just wondering whether you could see/would have liked him as Bond? I rewatched Joe’s Palace really (a brilliant BBC film by Stephen Poliakoff), which is why I’m wondering. I’d have preferred him over Richard Armitage anyway…

  • KenAustinKenAustin United States
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    QsCat wrote: »
    I know Rupert Penry-Jones has been mentioned here before and I think I recall him not being thought of very favourably. I know he has missed the boat but I’m just wondering whether you could see/would have liked him as Bond? I rewatched Joe’s Palace really (a brilliant BBC film by Stephen Poliakoff), which is why I’m wondering. I’d have preferred him over Richard Armitage anyway…

    Rupert would have needed to look the part, he's even blonder than Craig
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    KenAustin wrote: »
    Tom Ellis from Lucifer right now would be my choice. He fits the mold of the literary Bond, and in Lucifer he certainly displays that Bond-ish swagger.

    I got laughed at for suggesting him a few years ago 😁

    Just looked up Tom Ellis, and based on his photos looks like a solid option, providing another 6 year gap hasn't begun.
  • KenAustinKenAustin United States
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    KenAustin wrote: »
    Tom Ellis from Lucifer right now would be my choice. He fits the mold of the literary Bond, and in Lucifer he certainly displays that Bond-ish swagger.

    I got laughed at for suggesting him a few years ago 😁

    Just looked up Tom Ellis, and based on his photos looks like a solid option, providing another 6 year gap hasn't begun.

    Glad someone agrees with me...I think he can bring the swagger too based on Lucifer episodes
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    KenAustin wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    KenAustin wrote: »
    Tom Ellis from Lucifer right now would be my choice. He fits the mold of the literary Bond, and in Lucifer he certainly displays that Bond-ish swagger.

    I got laughed at for suggesting him a few years ago 😁

    Just looked up Tom Ellis, and based on his photos looks like a solid option, providing another 6 year gap hasn't begun.

    Glad someone agrees with me...I think he can bring the swagger too based on Lucifer episodes

    Been checking out interviews with him on YouTube. Seems like a charming, dashing guy. Great voice as well. He's 6"3, dark hair and turned 43 this past November. He looks closer to 35 IMO. Personally I'd think I'd be a happy Bond fan if he got the gig (even though I haven't seen LUCIFER).
  • KenAustinKenAustin United States
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    KenAustin wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    KenAustin wrote: »
    Tom Ellis from Lucifer right now would be my choice. He fits the mold of the literary Bond, and in Lucifer he certainly displays that Bond-ish swagger.

    I got laughed at for suggesting him a few years ago 😁

    Just looked up Tom Ellis, and based on his photos looks like a solid option, providing another 6 year gap hasn't begun.

    Glad someone agrees with me...I think he can bring the swagger too based on Lucifer episodes

    Been checking out interviews with him on YouTube. Seems like a charming, dashing guy. Great voice as well. He's 6"3, dark hair and turned 43 this past November. He looks closer to 35 IMO. Personally I'd think I'd be a happy Bond fan if he got the gig (even though I haven't seen LUCIFER).

    Someone better send this thread to Barbara Brocoli then LOL...I'm in 1000% agreement he should play the part even if he turns into another Dalton and only makes 1 - 3 movies
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
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    I don’t mind waiting three or four years for the new films anymore to be honest. I’m used to it now, and I don’t think they’d be able to compete with Marvel and co if they went back to hiring directors like Roger Spottiswoode and churning out Bond on a mission every two years. I’d be happy, but we’ve got “summer blockbusters” all year round now. The release schedule has never been more crowded, and Bond’s formula has never been less trendy. MI and Fast and Furious are the only other big budget traditional action films I can think of that are still regularly releasing in cinemas. The newer ones like John Wick tend to be really low budget, and you’re generally way more likely to see a costumed superhero on a blockbuster poster now than a man with a gun. But Bond has stayed relevant and successful in the face of all of that, and I think that’s probably because it still feels like an event. And while it’s easy for us to shout “hurry up” from the sidelines, surely they’d go back to a more regular release schedule if they thought it’d actually be a success? They’re a business at the end of the day, they must have loads of people on the payroll analysing this sort of stuff and figuring out how they can make as much money as possible. I think a new film every three or four years is probably all general audiences have the appetite for.

    Yes. I think Amazon will push for a 3 years gap once the new era will kickstart. And regarding M:I and F&F, in a couple of years they will be both over. Cruise is filming 7/8 back to back because he just can’t keep doing his stuff at his level at 70.
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    I could be happy with 3 year gaps.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    I could be happy with 3 year gaps.

    If the Amazon/MGM deal closes, I expect Amazon to push Eon to cast Bond #7. Amazon's not paying all that money to wait for 2-3 years for Bond 26 to go into production.
  • KenAustinKenAustin United States
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    There wouldn't need to be a waiting period if they treated production like a business instead of reacting to whether or not they made enough of a profit before deciding on the next film...you'd think the production company would be in a constant state of writing and casting calls.
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    echo wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    I could be happy with 3 year gaps.

    If the Amazon/MGM deal closes, I expect Amazon to push Eon to cast Bond #7. Amazon's not paying all that money to wait for 2-3 years for Bond 26 to go into production.

    I sincerely hope so. I hope plot ideas are being developed at Eon and Purvis and Wade are delving into their Fleming novels for inspiration.
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
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    Please no more Wurvis & Pade
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    Perhaps after 7 films and 2 different Bonds, EON might go for a new writing team with their next OO7.
    But they might not!
    It could very well be that many of the names here (including the much loved Aidan Turner) are too old for the role by the time shooting on Bond 26.
  • 007InAction007InAction Australia
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    Purvis & Wade are part of the EON "family" because of the excellent box office results the films they have co written have got.

    So like it or not It's hard to see them not being asked to write the next bond film imo.
  • KenAustinKenAustin United States
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    Purvis & Wade are part of the EON "family" because of the excellent box office results the films they have co written have got.

    So like it or not It's hard to see them not being asked to write the next bond film imo.

    I would not mind them writing the next Bond movie...however, there is always the risk that they are trapped in their current story arc and would try to continue the story which means altering the literary character and Bond story which I would not care to go see at all
  • ImpertinentGoonImpertinentGoon Everybody needs a hobby.
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    Benny wrote: »
    Perhaps after 7 films and 2 different Bonds, EON might go for a new writing team with their next OO7.
    But they might not!
    It could very well be that many of the names here (including the much loved Aidan Turner) are too old for the role by the time shooting on Bond 26.

    While we are on this tangent, is there any book/magazine feature/podcast episode going into the career of P&W and their association with association with the Bond franchise? Just their list of Bond films is somewhere between interesting and confounding, but their other ventures and specifically Johnny English is really strange to me.
    Barbara Broccoli discovers them, they do two Bond films that I would argue aren’t among the greatest scripts in the bunch and specifically count among the most fantastical in the franchise. Then they go and make an explicit parody of the Bond films and at the same time, EON decide they want to go back to basics and darker with the new actor. So they re-hire the two guys who wrote TWINE, DAD and Johnny English? And they nail it?? Then QoS and the writer’s strike followed by the up and down and WTF that is Skyfall into Spectre into NTTD. How did all of that happen?

    As for Bond actor: Jamie Dornan seems to be getting some buzz for his performance in Belfast and from the looks, acting ability and career I would say he could be a good Bond. Sadly he is probably too old at 39. and if he were to win the Oscar for Best Supporting, that obviously qualifies him as the lead villain for a future film.
  • KenAustinKenAustin United States
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    Benny wrote: »
    Perhaps after 7 films and 2 different Bonds, EON might go for a new writing team with their next OO7.
    But they might not!
    It could very well be that many of the names here (including the much loved Aidan Turner) are too old for the role by the time shooting on Bond 26.

    While we are on this tangent, is there any book/magazine feature/podcast episode going into the career of P&W and their association with association with the Bond franchise? Just their list of Bond films is somewhere between interesting and confounding, but their other ventures and specifically Johnny English is really strange to me.
    Barbara Broccoli discovers them, they do two Bond films that I would argue aren’t among the greatest scripts in the bunch and specifically count among the most fantastical in the franchise. Then they go and make an explicit parody of the Bond films and at the same time, EON decide they want to go back to basics and darker with the new actor. So they re-hire the two guys who wrote TWINE, DAD and Johnny English? And they nail it?? Then QoS and the writer’s strike followed by the up and down and WTF that is Skyfall into Spectre into NTTD. How did all of that happen?

    As for Bond actor: Jamie Dornan seems to be getting some buzz for his performance in Belfast and from the looks, acting ability and career I would say he could be a good Bond. Sadly he is probably too old at 39. and if he were to win the Oscar for Best Supporting, that obviously qualifies him as the lead villain for a future film.

    Jamie would be the right age if they started filming now and released in two years, and then every 2 years following, if he stayed healthy and fit he'd be primed for 3 to 5 films easily.
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
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    I thought he was one of the few things that was good about The Tourist.
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    I'm going to state the obvious but I'd rather take their time and get things right, rather than rish things and risking messing up the debut of a new Bond. Let's err on the side of caution.
  • KenAustinKenAustin United States
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    I'm going to state the obvious but I'd rather take their time and get things right, rather than rish things and risking messing up the debut of a new Bond. Let's err on the side of caution.

    I agree, however, it's film, it is easier to conform to the literary work and mold the actors than it is to wait for the perfect actor to be born and aged to the correct form later...we'd end up with one film per generation instead of continuous works of art
  • edited January 2022 Posts: 1,661
    This kinda stuff is cringy and desperate...
    Tom Holland told Shortlist in 2017 around the time of his first Spider-Man movie: “I actually want to brush up on my James Bond knowledge, because Sony release Spider-Man and Bond. I keep telling them I'm the next 007 – as a joke. But also as a kind of serious, ‘C’mon guys, let's make this happen.’ If I keep casually dropping it into interviews, it'll eventually happen.”

    Then just last year he said to Variety: “Ultimately as a young British lad who loves cinema, I’d love to be James Bond. So, y’know, I’m just putting that out there. I mean I look pretty good in a suit! I’d be like a really short James Bond.”

    The first quote was five years ago. He's probably even more desperate now. LOL

    And anyway, given the insane box office success of the latest Spider-Man film I can't see Sony wanting to drop Holland, they'll try to keep him attached for more films:
    Earlier in November, Amy Pascal said that “No Way Home” definitely isn’t the end for Spider-Man, and that a new trilogy is potentially in the works. “This is not the last movie that we are going to make with Marvel — [this is not] the last Spider-Man movie,” said Pascal, who is also the former head of Sony Pictures. “We are getting ready to make the next ‘Spider-Man’ movie with Tom Holland and Marvel. We’re thinking of this as three films, and now we’re going to go onto the next three. This is not the last of our MCU movies…Yes, Marvel and Sony are going to keep going together as partners.”

    ...so there's no way Eon want Bond to be played by the current Spider-man actor. Never going to happen, Tom. Stick with Spidey.

    And do we need "a really short James Bond." His words, not mine.

    No thanks.

  • KenAustinKenAustin United States
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    fanbond123 wrote: »
    This kinda stuff is cringy and desperate...
    Tom Holland told Shortlist in 2017 around the time of his first Spider-Man movie: “I actually want to brush up on my James Bond knowledge, because Sony release Spider-Man and Bond. I keep telling them I'm the next 007 – as a joke. But also as a kind of serious, ‘C’mon guys, let's make this happen.’ If I keep casually dropping it into interviews, it'll eventually happen.”

    Then just last year he said to Variety: “Ultimately as a young British lad who loves cinema, I’d love to be James Bond. So, y’know, I’m just putting that out there. I mean I look pretty good in a suit! I’d be like a really short James Bond.”

    The first quote was five years ago. He's probably even more desperate now. LOL

    And anyway, given the insane box office success of the latest Spider-Man film I can't see Sony wanting to drop Holland, they'll try to keep him attached for more films:
    Earlier in November, Amy Pascal said that “No Way Home” definitely isn’t the end for Spider-Man, and that a new trilogy is potentially in the works. “This is not the last movie that we are going to make with Marvel — [this is not] the last Spider-Man movie,” said Pascal, who is also the former head of Sony Pictures. “We are getting ready to make the next ‘Spider-Man’ movie with Tom Holland and Marvel. We’re thinking of this as three films, and now we’re going to go onto the next three. This is not the last of our MCU movies…Yes, Marvel and Sony are going to keep going together as partners.”

    ...so there's no way Eon want Bond to be played by the current Spider-man actor. Never going to happen, Tom. Stick with Spidey.

    And do we need "a really short James Bond." His words, not mine.

    No thanks.

    I don't even think I could watch a Bond movie with him as the actor, he is perfect for Spiderman but any other role I find it hard to take him seriously
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    I saw Spiderman last night and thoroughly enjoyed it, but absolutely NOT as far as Holland being cast as Bond. I don’t care how much he wants the role.
  • ImpertinentGoonImpertinentGoon Everybody needs a hobby.
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    Maybe he significantly matures in the next 10-15 years to be considered for Bond #8. Somebody recently said he is now in the Titanic-Phase of his career and you wouldn’t have necessarily plotted the course DiCaprio’s career has taken since then (well, he already had an Oscar nomination under his belt at that point…), so at some point he will mature just through the fact that he will no longer be in his twenties. But I don’t think he is ever going to be Bond, for a variety of reasons.
    However, I get him being interested. Like he says: He’s a British guy who is now making his way through the mainstream film industry. Of course he’d like to play James Bond. Who wouldn’t?

    As for them rushing or taking their time: Eon very much seems to be in the mindframe that every Bond film is an event and a very, very high-class product. From that point, they would be well advised to take their time and look for the „perfect“ actor, because his first film will have to make 750 million+ from a standing start and then stand on its own for four years or however long it will take them to do the next one. They could go and do a quick run of three films that are produced more or less concurrently and released every two years and look at it as a bit of a palette cleanser Bond, casting someone like Fassbender, Dornan, Matthew Goode or Luke Evans who probably wouldn’t hold the role for 15 years until they’re 60, but would be worthwhile to do it for 7 or 8 if they can crank out 3 or 4 films in that timeframe.
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    What annoys me is while Purvis and Wade have made a few blunders they also are rarely if never called out for their successes

    Casino Royale
    Quantum of solace
    Skyfall
    Had their dna

    They also tried to bring the films back to Fleming with Die Another Day hell the original ending of the film was Moonraker’s (the novel) ending rather then the CGI insanity we got

    I get that they aren’t beloved here but they aren’t the writers of Manos hands of fate…

    As for next writers I want someone who read the Fleming novels and had ways to bring them to our time sorry but the idea of Pirate gold being sold on the black market is extremely cool and should be used…

    The reason I loved Craig’s first two films and liked his third is the plots were small and intimate like a Fleming Novel… I could imagine Fleming writing about an organization taking the water from Bolivia …

    Like I said the next era I want them to stay true to Fleming through out the tenure

    It’s a shame as the Craig era was so close to being perfect really there are just a few changes I would of made

    As for who should play bond next well honestly I am hoping we get a big name for the video game bond trilogy as Tom Hardy will likely be to old for Bond 26 but not project 007

    I keep trying to find an actor who has the same sort of Tough darkness that Craig Dalton hell even Lazenby Moore and Connery had but I fear Amazon will push for the one actor who will be ok in the part but like Brosnan he will be a cocktail of cheep one liners and fun action sequences

    Henry Cavill …

    Unlike Clive Owen in the early 2000’s Henry is someone that has so much fan support I bet Amazon is already getting letters to cast Henry as Bond


    And if he got the part I won’t complain but my hopes will be lowered very much

    Craig or Dalton can pull of a weird Fleming title like The Hildebrand Rarity… Cavill can’t his films would be

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  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Maybe he significantly matures in the next 10-15 years to be considered for Bond #8. Somebody recently said he is now in the Titanic-Phase of his career and you wouldn’t have necessarily plotted the course DiCaprio’s career has taken since then (well, he already had an Oscar nomination under his belt at that point…), so at some point he will mature just through the fact that he will no longer be in his twenties. But I don’t think he is ever going to be Bond, for a variety of reasons.
    However, I get him being interested. Like he says: He’s a British guy who is now making his way through the mainstream film industry. Of course he’d like to play James Bond. Who wouldn’t?

    As for them rushing or taking their time: Eon very much seems to be in the mindframe that every Bond film is an event and a very, very high-class product. From that point, they would be well advised to take their time and look for the „perfect“ actor, because his first film will have to make 750 million+ from a standing start and then stand on its own for four years or however long it will take them to do the next one. They could go and do a quick run of three films that are produced more or less concurrently and released every two years and look at it as a bit of a palette cleanser Bond, casting someone like Fassbender, Dornan, Matthew Goode or Luke Evans who probably wouldn’t hold the role for 15 years until they’re 60, but would be worthwhile to do it for 7 or 8 if they can crank out 3 or 4 films in that timeframe.

    He will never have the right voice.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    I hope with the next era of Bond Eon plan out an actual "arc", have a tone in my mind and stick with it. Daniel's era has been my favourite but I do wish the tone had been more consistent. Hopefully having the rights to Spectre and Blofield from the start will help

    As for Purvis and Wade, I do think fresh blood could be a good thing but they know Fleming really well, since they've been on board we've seen the most Fleming on screen since the 60's

    Perhaps bringing on a talented writer early, like they did with Paul Haggis and John Logan, might improve the structure. Rather than bringing on a writer late in the day to polish the script
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Jordo007 wrote: »
    I hope with the next era of Bond Eon plan out an actual "arc", have a tone in my mind and stick with it. Daniel's era has been my favourite but I do wish the tone had been more consistent. Hopefully having the rights to Spectre and Blofield from the start will help

    I agree 100% . As much as I’ve enjoy the Craig era, there was a certain aimless to it

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