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I decided to look it up. Brosnan said he got the call during filming of AFTER THE SUNSET, and the last day of shooting for that film was in 15 February 2004. The video game EVERYTHING OR NOTHING hit shelves on 17 February.
https://web.archive.org/web/20041104013226/http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/art-main.html?2004-10/14/10.30.film
So while Bond fans were celebrating the release of a Bond video game Brosnan participated in, he already knew he was out of the role and had to stay quiet about it until later in October. Ouch!
It’s possible I guess but I tend to agree with everyone that they’d get the director and a script first. I suppose it depends if they’ve really done some work on it yet or not, but there is still no sign of a limited company being set up for the film, which they usually do early in production for accounting reasons. I tend to think they’re telling the truth when they say they haven’t started, not officially anyway. It might be quite a lot to do in the time.
Of course, we were treated to other Bond incarnations a couple of times in the Broz era, but he had already been established for a few years.
Press has taken the timeline of „nothing happens before the Oscars“ and turned it into „something will definitely happen soon after the Oscars and what could it be except an announcement??!!??11“ to keep the ball rolling.
I’m not one to bash the media, but they have absolutely no interest in saying „no need to check our website and paper for the next year, there will be no developments for quite some time“ but rather go with „it might be soon! Be sure to stay subscribed, if you are interested! You never know!“.
So I’m also in the „nothing is settled and it won’t happen before or at the anniversary in October“.
I expect they’ll try and keep away from each other as much as they can, but the announcement of the movie actor would bulldoze anything about the video game so I’m sure it won’t factor in too heavily.
The only problem is that they’ll probably have to cast someone in the video game this year and there’s a high chance of that casting being misreported by rubbish outlets as the casting for the films, so I’m sure they’ll be wary of that.
Agreed. It is way too soon. And Eon is still pushing NTTD for home viewing.
People who support this idea seem to think that it will do a lot to freshen up and modernise the franchise, while at the same time arguing that nothing will fundamentally change about it. Well, which is it then? How can we argue that this change would bring about so many positives and invigorate the series overall, and then say its as superficial as changing eye colour? It doesn't really make sense, and thats my issue. There's no collective experience surrounding people with brown eyes or blonde hair like there is around people of different races, so it's a silly comparison to even mention. I can only assume that by freshen up and "modernise" bond, we mean changing things beyond just skin colour. By representation, we don't just mean seeing the same skin tone on screen, but the same underlying experience being depicted. That's where the relatability comes from, correct? So that would mean a major divergence from the rest of the series, and the origin of the books, far greater than Craigs blonde hair ever caused.
I always thought that killing off bond would be my final straw, but the fact that Craigs journey is now a closed book, put back on the shelf next to lazenby, connery, moore and brosnan and dalton where they can all be looked back on and appreciated by their respective fanbases, is enough to give the series another chance. I can happily move on, take what i find enjoyable about his first 3 entries, and forget that the 2013 - 2023 era even existed when it comes to Bond on the big screen. But if they decide that after all the changes they have made to the cast over the past decades to make it more accepting and inclusive that they have to start messing with Bonds fudamental character for the sake of twitter clout, and if its really true that making nomi the official 007 was babs idea of "testing the waters", then I have no reluctance in saying that I will be jumping ship before it sinks. The writing really is on the wall at that point.
I personally think aidan turner is perhaps the best and only option right now, because he's the only one who is equally capable of doing both the light and the dark, and I think a balance of both is what's needed if the next era is to get off to a successful start. People say that he only has support because he has a certain bondian look about him, but as far as I'm concerned that's the last thing that qualifies him. His best attributes are not merely his looks, but his ability and natural talent. Anyone who has actually taken the time to watch "and then there were none" can attest to his inherent dark persona and classic rogueishness. he reminds me of early connery/dalton in bringing that raw intensity to the screen. But at the same time, if you watch any interview he does, he is such a light hearted, affable chap in the same way that brosnan and Moore would be off screen, and I feel he would do a much better job handling the press than Craig has done. The fact that he has both extremes, the dark, menacing, cruel side and the breezy, happy-go-lucky side means that whatever story direction they want to go in he is well equipt to take on. Personally I am very much looking forward to a Bond era that is more outside the characters head, and going on the journey with him but not from his perspective so much. The Craig era has its appeal, but I feel like we've been suffering bonds torment along with him for the past 20 years, and I want to get out of that space and back into seeing him from the outside looking in as a character with mystery, intrigue and some levity. That being said he should still have depth to him, and he needs that dangerous mystique, which turner can pull off in spades. If he doesn't at least get a good screen test in the next few years it would be a major travesty for the series, and I think many fans would view it as the one that got away considering how he is already a firm fan favourite.
Exaggerating for comedic effect, but you get the gist.
Aidan Turner would be a great Bond. I could easily believe that Turner and Dalton were playing the same character. Would BB see him as the safe option, though? Bit too much of a reversion to tradition, etc?
We knew about the story breaking in February 2004. See below, I remember it so well. Picking up the new game thinking, 'this could be it'.
https://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/articles/bond_21_brosnan_rumours_timeline.php3?t=bond21&s=bond21
Bronson mentioned this for the first time in March 2004.
Here is a great article where it's revealed the sticking point was Brosnan wanted $20m, $3m more than was willing to be paid, so they broke off negotiations with his agent. He priced himself out of Bond.
https://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/articles/bond_21_brosnan_pay.php3
As we know Broccoli first talked with Craig at Mary Selway's funeral in June 2004. Nearly 18 months later they got their man.
We first learnt of Craig in Feb 2005, before that Campbell as director and the title in Jan 2005.
Thanks. So if that's correct there's not really much that hasn't started filming already then.
Goodbye!
Hell hasn't frozen over just yet, pal.
Thanks @Samuel001! I hadn’t been following the main site until CR was entering production, so I only learned about Brosnan’s departure late in 2004. Playing the EON game completely oblivious to what was happening behind the scenes.
I wouldn't go banco on that.
I doubt they’d seriously go for Nolan; he’d want more control than EON would be willing to give.
So it s Hardy?
This is probably the best post I have ever read on mi6. I salute you @Mendes4Lyfe. Very, very eloquently put and I could not agree more. You are a true asset to this forum.