Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • edited June 2022 Posts: 4,166
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    I feel we're going round in circles/have had this conversation about Bannon's hairline before. Not like an odd hairline or even a noticeable toupee disqualifies you from playing Bond. Speaking of hairlines, there's this too:

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    But as I said, I think I've posted all that before... Bannon's been on my list for a while now, just going from Pennyworth... It'd make sense to consider him.

    Always liked that illustration. I don't believe Fleming ever described Bond's hairline. Correct me if I'm mistaken.

    007HallY wrote: »
    I suspect there are vested interests

    Indeed. I feel somewhat sorry for some of these actors being mentioned, many of whom are actually quite talented and worth considering for this part. Even in a potential Bond audition they won't get as much flack about their appearances as they do among us here. Perhaps because BB/MGW and the casting directors don't have any hang ups about their own hair and jawlines... more likely because they actually watch these actor's work though...

    Speaking of jawlines.........another illustration of Fleming's Bond ..... this one by George Almond.

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    I love Almond's illustrations... not sure about that particular one of Bond though (looks like Connery with an even worse toupee than in his later films), but he has others which are better. And no, Bond's hairline was never described. There are only brief mentions about him combing it, and of course the comma of hair. Seems like Fleming envisioned Bond with a widow's peak (very Sherlock Holmes esque) and certainly less rugged than Connery/later illustrations.

    @ByRoyalDecree Oh, I have no doubt had Craig been brought up on Internet forums pre 2005 he'd have been dismissed instantly by fans. Broccoli probably saw something in him because she'd watched Layer Cake, Lara Croft: Tomb Raider etc... because y'know, that's her job and a part of how she and others pick these candidates.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    Whilst Daniel Craig may not have ticked all the usual boxes that previous Bond actors had in the past, Craig proved all the naysayers wrong with CR, and continued to please audiences for another four films.
    I think even from his early roles in film, and tv he's had an intensity to his acting.
    Barbara Broccoli obviously saw his potential and the rest is history.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    007HallY wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    I feel we're going round in circles/have had this conversation about Bannon's hairline before. Not like an odd hairline or even a noticeable toupee disqualifies you from playing Bond. Speaking of hairlines, there's this too:

    220px-Fleming007impression.jpg

    But as I said, I think I've posted all that before... Bannon's been on my list for a while now, just going from Pennyworth... It'd make sense to consider him.

    Always liked that illustration. I don't believe Fleming ever described Bond's hairline. Correct me if I'm mistaken.

    007HallY wrote: »
    I suspect there are vested interests

    Indeed. I feel somewhat sorry for some of these actors being mentioned, many of whom are actually quite talented and worth considering for this part. Even in a potential Bond audition they won't get as much flack about their appearances as they do among us here. Perhaps because BB/MGW and the casting directors don't have any hang ups about their own hair and jawlines... more likely because they actually watch these actor's work though...

    Speaking of jawlines.........another illustration of Fleming's Bond ..... this one by George Almond.

    James+Bond+Portrait.jpg

    I like Almond's illustrations... not sure about that particular one of Bond though, but he has others which are better. And no, Bond's hairline was never described. There are only brief mentions about him combing it and of course the comma of hair. Seems like Fleming envisioned Bond with a widow's peak (very Sherlock Holmes esque).

    @ByRoyalDecree Oh, I have no doubt had Craig been brought up on Internet forums pre 2005 he'd have been dismissed instantly by fans. Broccoli probably saw something in him because she'd watched Layer Cake, Lara Croft: Tomb Raider etc... because y'know, that's her job and a part of how she and others pick these candidates.
    007HallY wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    I feel we're going round in circles/have had this conversation about Bannon's hairline before. Not like an odd hairline or even a noticeable toupee disqualifies you from playing Bond. Speaking of hairlines, there's this too:

    220px-Fleming007impression.jpg

    But as I said, I think I've posted all that before... Bannon's been on my list for a while now, just going from Pennyworth... It'd make sense to consider him.

    Always liked that illustration. I don't believe Fleming ever described Bond's hairline. Correct me if I'm mistaken.

    007HallY wrote: »
    I suspect there are vested interests

    Indeed. I feel somewhat sorry for some of these actors being mentioned, many of whom are actually quite talented and worth considering for this part. Even in a potential Bond audition they won't get as much flack about their appearances as they do among us here. Perhaps because BB/MGW and the casting directors don't have any hang ups about their own hair and jawlines... more likely because they actually watch these actor's work though...

    Speaking of jawlines.........another illustration of Fleming's Bond ..... this one by George Almond.

    James+Bond+Portrait.jpg

    I like Almond's illustrations... not sure about that particular one of Bond though, but he has others which are better. And no, Bond's hairline was never described. There are only brief mentions about him combing it and of course the comma of hair. Seems like Fleming envisioned Bond with a widow's peak (very Sherlock Holmes esque).

    @ByRoyalDecree Oh, I have no doubt had Craig been brought up on Internet forums pre 2005 he'd have been dismissed instantly by fans. Broccoli probably saw something in him because she'd watched Layer Cake, Lara Croft: Tomb Raider etc... because y'know, that's her job and a part of how she and others pick these candidates.

    I must admit I remember seeing Tomb Raider and being surprised he was in it for one thing (I’d only previously seen him do more worthy highbrow stuff), and that I didn’t think he was all that good in it, really.
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    mtm wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    I feel we're going round in circles/have had this conversation about Bannon's hairline before. Not like an odd hairline or even a noticeable toupee disqualifies you from playing Bond. Speaking of hairlines, there's this too:

    220px-Fleming007impression.jpg

    But as I said, I think I've posted all that before... Bannon's been on my list for a while now, just going from Pennyworth... It'd make sense to consider him.

    Always liked that illustration. I don't believe Fleming ever described Bond's hairline. Correct me if I'm mistaken.

    007HallY wrote: »
    I suspect there are vested interests

    Indeed. I feel somewhat sorry for some of these actors being mentioned, many of whom are actually quite talented and worth considering for this part. Even in a potential Bond audition they won't get as much flack about their appearances as they do among us here. Perhaps because BB/MGW and the casting directors don't have any hang ups about their own hair and jawlines... more likely because they actually watch these actor's work though...

    Speaking of jawlines.........another illustration of Fleming's Bond ..... this one by George Almond.

    James+Bond+Portrait.jpg

    I like Almond's illustrations... not sure about that particular one of Bond though, but he has others which are better. And no, Bond's hairline was never described. There are only brief mentions about him combing it and of course the comma of hair. Seems like Fleming envisioned Bond with a widow's peak (very Sherlock Holmes esque).

    @ByRoyalDecree Oh, I have no doubt had Craig been brought up on Internet forums pre 2005 he'd have been dismissed instantly by fans. Broccoli probably saw something in him because she'd watched Layer Cake, Lara Croft: Tomb Raider etc... because y'know, that's her job and a part of how she and others pick these candidates.
    007HallY wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    I feel we're going round in circles/have had this conversation about Bannon's hairline before. Not like an odd hairline or even a noticeable toupee disqualifies you from playing Bond. Speaking of hairlines, there's this too:

    220px-Fleming007impression.jpg

    But as I said, I think I've posted all that before... Bannon's been on my list for a while now, just going from Pennyworth... It'd make sense to consider him.

    Always liked that illustration. I don't believe Fleming ever described Bond's hairline. Correct me if I'm mistaken.

    007HallY wrote: »
    I suspect there are vested interests

    Indeed. I feel somewhat sorry for some of these actors being mentioned, many of whom are actually quite talented and worth considering for this part. Even in a potential Bond audition they won't get as much flack about their appearances as they do among us here. Perhaps because BB/MGW and the casting directors don't have any hang ups about their own hair and jawlines... more likely because they actually watch these actor's work though...

    Speaking of jawlines.........another illustration of Fleming's Bond ..... this one by George Almond.

    James+Bond+Portrait.jpg

    I like Almond's illustrations... not sure about that particular one of Bond though, but he has others which are better. And no, Bond's hairline was never described. There are only brief mentions about him combing it and of course the comma of hair. Seems like Fleming envisioned Bond with a widow's peak (very Sherlock Holmes esque).

    @ByRoyalDecree Oh, I have no doubt had Craig been brought up on Internet forums pre 2005 he'd have been dismissed instantly by fans. Broccoli probably saw something in him because she'd watched Layer Cake, Lara Croft: Tomb Raider etc... because y'know, that's her job and a part of how she and others pick these candidates.

    I must admit I remember seeing Tomb Raider and being surprised he was in it for one thing (I’d only previously seen him do more worthy highbrow stuff), and that I didn’t think he was all that good in it, really.

    Fair enough. I'd have said that film was a good indication that Craig was capable of playing the cool/confident side to Bond - the swagger I guess you could say. Anyway, it shows you how subjective these things are, and possibly how little any of us know when it comes to casting Bond! For what it's worth even when I've pointed to my top picks/the roles they've played which I felt have been good indicators at their potential for the role not everyone has seen the same thing (these being Tom Hughes in The Game, Jack Bannon in Pennyworth, Jack O'Connell in The Runaway and Unbroken). Similarly, I fail to see anything from Aidan Turner's previous roles that indicate he'd be a particularly good Bond. Same with Henry Cavill. Who's right ultimately? Who knows...
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
    edited June 2022 Posts: 2,641
    That Barbara saw Bond in Craig is amazing. I would have ruled him out instantly.

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    Well, it's all a matter of perspective

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    Although I'm nervous more than anything else about Bond 26, I have faith in Barbara and Eon to make the right call. Hopefully the studio let them do what they do best
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    QsCat wrote: »
    Slim Jim Fassbender

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    Would be the first bond to actually look Scottish. Looks better in a stubble than Craig did.
    See above.

    Fassbender missing out on Bond would be like if Brosnan had missed out. Criminal.

    Except that ship has sailed now.
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    That Barbara saw Bond in Craig is amazing. I would have ruled him out instantly.

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    Well, it's all a matter of perspective

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    Although I'm nervous more than anything else about Bond 26, I have faith in Barbara and Eon to make the right call. Hopefully the studio let them do what they do best

    Exactly. It's easy to find unflattering pictures of an actor. If I was to show a picture of Sean Connery in Zardoz, does that mean he's not Bond looking?
  • Jordo007 wrote: »
    Although I'm nervous more than anything else about Bond 26, I have faith in Barbara and Eon to make the right call. Hopefully the studio let them do what they do best

    I’d honestly be disappointed if it wasn’t an unpredictable out of left field candidate.
  • edited June 2022 Posts: 4,166
    Ludovico wrote: »
    QsCat wrote: »
    Slim Jim Fassbender

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    Would be the first bond to actually look Scottish. Looks better in a stubble than Craig did.
    See above.

    Fassbender missing out on Bond would be like if Brosnan had missed out. Criminal.

    Except that ship has sailed now.
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    That Barbara saw Bond in Craig is amazing. I would have ruled him out instantly.

    Daniel-Craig.jpg
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    Well, it's all a matter of perspective

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    Although I'm nervous more than anything else about Bond 26, I have faith in Barbara and Eon to make the right call. Hopefully the studio let them do what they do best

    Exactly. It's easy to find unflattering pictures of an actor. If I was to show a picture of Sean Connery in Zardoz, does that mean he's not Bond looking?

    Worth noting that when Bond was first being cast in the 60s, this is most likely the first reference the producers had of Connery as an actor.



    He doesn't exactly scream Fleming's Bond there. Even in something like Action of the Tiger I'm not sure if I'd have looked at him at the time and have said 'that's the guy'. If anything casting Craig was easier as he had those other roles which gave a taste of him in such a part (especially given that Bond had been a cinematic character for a long time by then).
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    edited June 2022 Posts: 3,152
    BB had tried to cast against type before, when she tried to persuade Cubby to hire Sean Bean instead of Brosnan. Apparently, Cubby wouldn't even entertain the idea and rejected him on looks and height alone. It's not hard to see Dan also being instantly dismissed as a candidate if Cubby had still been around. I couldn't even see it myself in 2005 - and I knew who Craig was, I knew he was a really good actor, but...Bond? I wouldn't have thought so in a million years. Bond looked like Connery, Dalton and Brosnan to me. Hell, Bond looked like Adrian Paul, if it came to that. But one viewing of CR and all doubts were completely erased. So much so, that I can barely even conceive of where the series would be now if BB hadn't cast against type and pushed for Craig. Which is why, no matter who gets the role next, I'll wait and see the film itself before reaching any verdict.
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    Cubby was certainly a lot more focused on things like height, the general look of the actor etc. I do wonder if there's a sense of revisionism in terms of how much Cubby wanted Connery for the role in the early days. I always got the sense it was people like Terrence Young, Cubby's wife etc who saw that 'spark' in him, Cubby agreed to audition him on the off chance there was something there and it was cemented after.

    I mean, there were certainly some questionable near picks for Bond during his tenure... Arguably Lazenby was a rather questionable choice...
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    edited June 2022 Posts: 3,152
    In 1962, I don't think there was another actor on the planet who could've been a better Bond than Connery - literally, no one. They hit the bullseye dead centre first time out when they chose Sean. So, yeh, I'm sure they all wanted a bit of the credit for the decision... ;)
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    Although I had seen TOMB RAIDER I didn't remember Craig's character or performance, to be honest. I had to look him up when his name was mentioned in the media and the forums.

    This photo of him was on imdb:

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    I then instantly thought he was our man. No question.
    Especially compared to the other names that were being mentioned.

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    007HallY wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    QsCat wrote: »
    Slim Jim Fassbender

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    Would be the first bond to actually look Scottish. Looks better in a stubble than Craig did.
    See above.

    Fassbender missing out on Bond would be like if Brosnan had missed out. Criminal.

    Except that ship has sailed now.
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    That Barbara saw Bond in Craig is amazing. I would have ruled him out instantly.

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    Well, it's all a matter of perspective

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    Although I'm nervous more than anything else about Bond 26, I have faith in Barbara and Eon to make the right call. Hopefully the studio let them do what they do best

    Exactly. It's easy to find unflattering pictures of an actor. If I was to show a picture of Sean Connery in Zardoz, does that mean he's not Bond looking?

    Worth noting that when Bond was first being cast in the 60s, this is most likely the first reference the producers had of Connery as an actor.



    He doesn't exactly scream Fleming's Bond there. Even in something like Action of the Tiger I'm not sure if I'd have looked at him at the time and have said 'that's the guy'. If anything casting Craig was easier as he had those other roles which gave a taste of him in such a part (especially given that Bond had been a cinematic character for a long time by then).

    Boy yeah no wonder Ian Fleming was skeptical. It would be like learning Hugh Jackman had been cast as Wolverine after seeing him in a musical. I wonder what people would have said had social media existed then. But on a side note, what a catchy tune!
  • edited June 2022 Posts: 784
    Eddie Redmayne

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    Would be the first Bond to win an academy for best male actor in the role.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    Eddie Redmayne

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    Would be the first Bond to win an academy for best male actor in the role.

    One of the most annoying faces in showbiz at the moment. I'd like him to be cast as the villain and get punched really hard, though.
  • edited June 2022 Posts: 784
    Dude could play anything. Despite his tiny stature I am sure he could take on the role with such intensity and gravitas that you’d soil your pants in a match up.
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    Eddie Redmayne constantly looks like he's about to sh*t himself. Even in his films. There's this acting masterclass too:



    I personally dislike him as an actor. Hated Theory of Everything and The Danish Girl too... no, the guy was created in a test tube in a lab to star in Oscar bait, not play Bond.
  • edited June 2022 Posts: 784
    007HallY wrote: »
    Eddie Redmayne constantly looks like he's about to sh*t himself. Even in his films. There's this acting masterclass too:


    I f****** love it.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Venutius wrote: »
    BB had tried to cast against type before, when she tried to persuade Cubby to hire Sean Bean instead of Brosnan. Apparently, Cubby wouldn't even entertain the idea and rejected him on looks and height alone. It's not hard to see Dan also being instantly dismissed as a candidate if Cubby had still been around. I couldn't even see it myself in 2005 - and I knew who Craig was, I knew he was a really good actor, but...Bond? I wouldn't have thought so in a million years. Bond looked like Connery, Dalton and Brosnan to me. Hell, Bond looked like Adrian Paul, if it came to that. But one viewing of CR and all doubts were completely erased. So much so, that I can barely even conceive of where the series would be now if BB hadn't cast against type and pushed for Craig. Which is why, no matter who gets the role next, I'll wait and see the film itself before reaching any verdict.

    In retrospect I can certainly see Bean being a rather good Bond (as long as he didn't do the accent he did in GE!), but I think at the time, when they were relaunching the Bond films and needed to go back to basics to some extent, Brosnan was the right guy for the moment as he just had the big screen charisma for it.
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    007HallY wrote: »
    Eddie Redmayne constantly looks like he's about to sh*t himself. Even in his films. There's this acting masterclass too:


    I f****** love it.

    It's good for a chuckle admittedly. But yeah, Redmayne's very much in the category of 'Oscar Bait' star for me. I can always see him 'acting' if that makes sense. It'd be like Jared Leto playing Bond... it'd be weird...
  • edited June 2022 Posts: 784
    007HallY wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    Eddie Redmayne constantly looks like he's about to sh*t himself. Even in his films. There's this acting masterclass too:


    I f****** love it.

    It's good for a chuckle admittedly. But yeah, Redmayne's very much in the category of 'Oscar Bait' star for me. I can always see him 'acting' if that makes sense. It'd be like Jared Leto playing Bond... it'd be weird...

    I get what you mean, but the video you linked was not a good example. I don’t have trouble imagining him taking on the role with more naturalism. Here is a better one

  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    Dude could play anything. Despite his tiny stature I am sure he could take on the role with such intensity and gravitas that you’d soil your pants in a match up.

    It's far more likely that he'll make my eardrums bleed.
  • edited June 2022 Posts: 784
    Dude could play anything. Despite his tiny stature I am sure he could take on the role with such intensity and gravitas that you’d soil your pants in a match up.

    It's far more likely that he'll make my eardrums bleed.

    Why is he a terrible singer? Not sure he would scream or sing very much as Bond.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,217
    Dude could play anything. Despite his tiny stature I am sure he could take on the role with such intensity and gravitas that you’d soil your pants in a match up.

    It's far more likely that he'll make my eardrums bleed.

    Why is he a terrible singer? Not sure he would scream or sing very much as Bond.

    I find him overly stage-performancey as an actor.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Redmayne would be an awful choice. I can't say I've liked him in anything I've seen him in, like he's always trying too hard and it comes across as hollow.
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    I think he would be the best choice if producers would be interested in redefining masculinity.
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  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Redmayne would be an awful choice.

    Yes, just like at least 95 percent of everyone mentioned here.
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    @JeremyBondon does such a bad job of selling Aidan, I’ll do it for him.

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  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Redmayne would be an awful choice.

    Yes, just like at least 95 percent of everyone mentioned here.

    Absolutely. And after almost 1,000 pages of discussion and the same few names being offered, I'd find it hilarious if it's some complete unknown selected as the next Bond that was never even mentioned as a choice here.
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