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I don't get why we would have to vote on which track is better in the first place as it's all subjective. Just because a poll says it's better doesn't mean it's true.
I prefer talking about both tracks in depth and explain why I like one better than the other. The topic and idea is still the same but the voting element is removed. And changing up the tracks every week keeps the thread from going into limbo.
01) 51 POINTS: "Flight Into Space" (MR) -- maximum possible points
02) 41 POINTS: "Night At The Opera" (QOS)
03) 36 POINTS: "Snow Business" (TWINE)
04) 32 POINTS: "Solange" (CR)
05) 23 POINTS: "Shanghai Drive" (SF)
06) 17 POINTS: "Following The Diamonds" (DAF) -- minimum possible points
Round #4 -->
"Big Band Death Jack Petachi" (NSNA):
composed and arranged by Michel LeGrand & The Silva Screen Players
vs.
"It Had To Be You" (TND)
re-arranged by Simon Greenaway (original composed by Isham Jones)
(remember, David Arnold did not compose this track)
Two very big band-ish tracks, one is more up-tempo, the other is more relaxed. But both are excellent filler/source instrumentals for specific scenes ;).
Please use this format when you're ready to post our score:
--> name title track A vs. name title track B
--> 3 - 1
--> 1 - 3
--> 2 - 2
It makes it easier to sum up the scores.
Anyway, here are the tracks:
The TND track is infinitely more enjoyable.
I think the NSNA-score is quite underrated. Yes, David Arnold did a wunderful job for TND. But in many of his Bond films, he didn't even compose the cource instrumental music (end titles QOS, Four Tet, party music QOS, party music TND, Cuban intro DAD)
By the way, this is the original "It Had To Be You":
Regarding the track "Big Band Death Jack Petachi", I really loved the sound editing of this track in the actual scene where Fatima Blush kills Petachi...and then the happy-peppy music keeps on playing. Lovely choice ;-). Such a similar style of sound/music editing was also used in "Skyfall".....the music that plays when the Tell-game between Silva & Bond starts.
Also a very good track from Michael LeGrand of the NSNA-score:
But I didn't know with which other Bond track this could battle :(
I think it goes well with how over the top Fatima is in NSNA. It's tough to compare these two though. One is very fast and upbeat, the other very mellow and subtle.
Michel Legrande is an excellent composer, too bad he never was asked to do the original series.
Petachi wins for being a bit more wacky and fun. The other reminds me of melodrama.
The Big Band Death of Jack Petachi.
wins 3-1.
But you have good and bad background music. "Airport Source" and "White House" from DAF are similar kinds of source music. And John Barry, deservedly IMO, gets away with it. But not jazz/big band musician Michel Legrand. And the latter is undeservedly if you ask me.
Most importantly, David Arnold gets away with it as well, and that's even more unfair. As it isn't really his music.
Yes but Barry's Background music is more than just simple background music. It's a character itself. Though I don't particularly care for Airport source but Whyte House is very good. Legrand's Big band music is pretty generic. I feel like I've heard it in other movies where Barry's scores are always unique and you can always tell where a Barry track and what movie it goes too. I'm not slagging off Barry but just Legrand and this Non Arnold piece. Both don't do it for me.
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While I absolutely adore high-class party/restaurant piano music like It Had To Be You, the track from NSNA automatically makes me want to jump up, flail my arms around me and dance. Not many tracks have that effect on me, hence I decided to call this a tie.
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Legrand's music for NSNA has always given me a headache. There are a few tracks I enjoy, but this isn't one of them. I can kind of see how it works in its own brash, over-the-top way, but it just reminds me way too much of how poorly suited Legrand's score was for the film. Which is a real surprise and a real shame, considering how great much of Legrand's other work is.
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Simply marvellous bit of music. I truly feel like I'm on the Carribean with this piece of music:
Tango to the death. Best bit of tango music in a Bond film. I always wondered why we didn't see Bond dancing in a film. Well, he did a try in TB, but the 'tango to the death' was a memorable James Bond scene:
Or what about "Une Chanson d'Amour", when Bond visits the French Riviera:
I agree with you, however, that we should see Bond dance again. Bond's tango with Domino and their exercise room encounter aboard the Flying Saucer are two of the best scenes in the film. I particularly like how in both scenes the dancing is used to drive the narrative—in the first case to deliver information to Domino and in the second to provoke Largo.
I'd give them an even score, based on the fact that they're both rather uninteresting to my ears.
Not a fan of either one. If I wanna listen to jazz, I'll listen to proper jazz. This sounds pretty unimaginative...
Just re-watch TMWTGG then ;-). Or even DAF. Two Bond films full of dixieland and big-band compositions :-)
01) 51 POINTS: "Flight Into Space" (MR) -- maximum possible points
02) 41 POINTS: "Night At The Opera" (QOS)
03) 36 POINTS: "Snow Business" (TWINE)
04) 36 POINTS: "Big Band Death Jack Petachi" (NSNA)
05) 32 POINTS: "Solange" (CR)
05) 32 POINTS: "It Had To Be You" (TND)
06) 23 POINTS: "Shanghai Drive" (SF)
07) 17 POINTS: "Following The Diamonds" (DAF) -- minimum possible points
Round #5 -->
"The Bloody Shot" (SF):
composed, arranged and conducted by Thomas Newman
vs.
"Time To Get Out" (QOS)
composed and arranged by David Arnold, conducted by Nicholas Dodd
Two great compositions that enhanced two already great Pre-Credits Sequences. Which is the best?
Please use this format when you're ready to post our score:
--> name title track A vs. name title track B
--> 3 - 1
--> 1 - 3
--> 2 - 2
It makes it easier to sum up the scores.
Anyway, here are the tracks: