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Thanks to Rog we always live in hope that the next guy will bring something new - a different twist that makes everything feel fresh again.
Had Rog failed in the role (and his first two are perhaps a little bit shaky), or they'd cast a different actor who just didn't work out, I doubt the series would have reached 50 years.
All hail Sir Rog!
Indeed, @Getafix! Sir Roger rarely gets the credit he deserves but you've made an impressive stab at it with that post right there! It is of course very true that where Moore led in terms of playing Bond differently from Sean Connery others very much followed with the courage and example of Moore having led the way.
Yes, indeed. That's one that I missed.
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So then as a stuntman you know that each fight scene is tailored to what an actor can and cannot do. I'm simply saying that those scenes are constructed that way to aid the audience to believe the character in everything they do, so when I list the impressive fights that some of the actors have had in their roles as Bond and the Moore film backers struggle to come up with a memorable fight, it;'s because the Moore fights just don't stand side by side with the other actor's capabilities in their respective fight scenes.
Yes, I see your point but I guess that's just down to the choreographer and how good he is! :P
One thing I liked in TMWTGG- Moore straight-kicked that dude in the head, no real 'martial arts' about it.
He is excellent in the 2nd half of OP, sure - but his measured and earnest performance throughout FYEO is right up there with Connery in FRWL , Dalton in LTK and craig in CR as the very best efforts by a Bond actor, if you ask me.
But yes, OP & FYEO were Moore's peak as 007, from a performance pov, anyway.
I would agree with this.
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1. FYEO's score is pretty bad indeed. Very dated and terribly un Bond like.. Even Marvin Hamlisch nailed the disco era better 4 years prior in 1977 with TSWLM than Bill Conti did in 1981 - and the era was already over by then anyway. John Barry's excellent work on Octopussy raised that film considerably. If only he had done FYEO it would have been an all time classic.
2. Agreed that Bibi was horrendous. Almost as annoying as Jar Jar Binks. She should have been killed brutally mid-way (like Severine or Corrine) and that would have helped the movie.
3. The villains were not good at all compared to what we were accustomed to. Kristatos was totally boring, as was Kriegler and Locque. They seemed somewhat cardboard like compared to the colourful villains from Moore's previous entries (MR & TSWLM). Khan, the circuis twins, Orlov & Gobinda were much better in OP
4. the underwater scene in FYEO with the mini sub was so boring it's not funny. Again, compared to what had come before in MR & previous entries, this was badly shot and did not have any tension at all. I guess John Glen was still getting his feet wet, because he did a much better job directing OP
5. The climax scene up on the mountain top was also super boring. The climb was good but the stuff at the top was a disgrace. The plane stuff at the end of OP was far more tense and superior
6. I think Moore's performance was equally good in both FYEO and OP - but OP is more the Moore we know and love so seeing his seriousness in FYEO sort of came from left-field. There was nothing really in the plot to create that seriousness....if it was a CR type plot then maybe it would have more suited his serious demeanour.
Now, where was FYEO better? The plot was more realistic perhaps. Carole Bouquet just blew me away with her beauty (despite her lack of acting prowess...that stare down at the camera after her parents were killed still gives me the chills all these years later) & the ski sequences were quite good.
OP was just more energetic all round though, and suited Roger Moore.
Which other Bond actor could have worn a clown suit & imitated Tarzan???? None of them. That's what made Roger great. He could do clown and he could do serious (parts of TSWLM and FYEO) too. Not only that, he arguably took Bond through 2 decades (he is the definitive 70's and to a lesser extent, 80's Bond. Connery is more associated with the 60's only). I don't think Roger Moore ever gave a bad performance. He was just too old for AVTAK. Even the great Connery was phoning it in on DAF & NSNA. Both Dalton and Craig (so far) have not given a bad performance either. At the risk of offending some, the less said about Brosnan, the better.
The Connery era had less of them, as did the Lazenby and Craig films. That's the character, a tough gentleman/thug. Not an old, funny, silly comedian.
No thanks.
I agree with you Birdleson. The Brosnan era jokes were cringe inducing for the most part. I think it was just poor writing during that time. It only improved after CR when Haggis came on to assist the two goofs (Purvis and Wade). That's why I'm worried when these two clowns were recently brought back. Anyway, I'm sure Craig will ensure the lines are up to par for B24.
It' be better to just say, "I can't stand (insert Bond actor name), so it's hard for me to be objective.
Of course, I don't need to; I don't have a severe dislike of any of them.
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Don't see it that way at all. OP is generally very solid, with a few stupid Moore-era bits. But it doesn't have a really annoying character like Bibi. The bits of OP that annoy me are relatively short and for me are relatively easily ignored.
But I still like FYEO. Just think OP is better.
I had forgotten about the Hockey sequence in FYEO though. Eesh.
God, it was as if all of those films are filled with gags, puns, yucks and giggles.
No thanks.
Which other Bond actor could pull off my avatar as well as one holding down a gun with a stare down, aka Getaflix's Dalton avatar.
Only Roger Moore.
I could have done more with the gentleman spy that Moore portrayed if it were not for the gags, good or bad.
It echoes the very serious death of 008 at the start. The tension is actually handled brilliantly. It's not supposed to be funny at all, and it isn't. It's one of the most genuinely thrilling and tense moments in the entire series. And Rog handles it perfectly.
How people misunderstand OP. An underrated classic.