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How does it end for 007?

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  • myworldisenoughmyworldisenough
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    I just don't get the rationale of some Bond fans to wish to see an end to further Bond movies. Unless they're complete rubbish why would there be any desire for such a thing? It's lasted 50 years thus far because there is the continued hunger for Bond movies. I see very little changing anytime soon, or anytime in the distant future either.
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    I don't want Bond to end, but that doesn't mean it won't. It'll happen some time.
  • myworldisenoughmyworldisenough
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    Agent007391 wrote:
    I don't want Bond to end, but that doesn't mean it won't. It'll happen some time.

    And how can you be so sure? Have people stopped reading and performing works of Shakespeare?
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    myworldisenough wrote:
    Agent007391 wrote:
    I don't want Bond to end, but that doesn't mean it won't. It'll happen some time.

    And how can you be so sure? Have people stopped reading and performing works of Shakespeare?

    "All good things must come to an end."
  • fjdinardofjdinardo
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    Im working on a story right now to end 007. Ill be posting it on this forum when its all done.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    fjdinardo wrote:
    Im working on a story right now to end 007. Ill be posting it on this forum when its all done.

    Why would someone want to do such a thing?
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    myworldisenough wrote:
    Have people stopped reading and performing works of Shakespeare?

    Are you equating Fleming with SHAKESPEARE???????
    REALLY?????

    I can see it in a way.... :)>-
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    chrisisall wrote:
    myworldisenough wrote:
    Have people stopped reading and performing works of Shakespeare?

    Are you equating Fleming with SHAKESPEARE???????
    REALLY?????

    I can see it in a way.... :)>-

    Fleming trumps Shakespeare in my eyes. Sometimes I think people just toss in Shakespeare to appear well read because it's expected. I respect Shakespeare and his literary contributions, but nobody creates atmosphere like Fleming.
  • SpectreNumberOneSpectreNumberOne
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    How does it end, aged 89 years, sitting in a wicker chair on the veranda of a villa in Portofino as the sun sets he looks off into the distant as if remembering all that's past before he drains the class of one last Vesper & smokes one last specially blended cigarette from Morland of Grosvenor Street, the three gold bands visible between fore & ring finger, sighs, retires to bed, sleeps, never to wake again. A life lived to the full, Sir James Bond you will be remembered............
  • JWESTBROOKJWESTBROOK
    edited December 2012 Posts: 5,745
    Uh.. to the sensitive ones who can't believe how us fans are even willing to discuss 'the end' of the series, calm down.

    No fans want to see it end. It's just fun to be speculative. I'd rather it 'end' in a film then have the series just stop being made suddenly.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    Uh.. to the sensitive ones who can't believe how us fans are even willing to discuss 'the end' of the series, calm down.

    No fans want to see it end. It's just fun to be speculative. I'd rather it 'end' in a film then have the series just stop being made suddenly.

    Great point, and I agree.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    SpectreNumberOne wrote:
    How does it end, aged 89 years, sitting in a wicker chair on the veranda of a villa in Portofino as the sun sets he looks off into the distant as if remembering all that's past before he drains the class of one last Vesper & smokes one last specially blended cigarette from Morland of Grosvenor Street, the three gold bands visible between fore & ring finger, sighs, retires to bed, sleeps, never to wake again. A life lived to the full, Sir James Bond you will be remembered............

    Perfect!

  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    I don't know. If Bond "lived his life to the fullest", I have a hard time believing he died so old as 89. I picture the Bond from the novels almost expecting his death to come sooner rather than later, and I enjoy that element of the books. Bond reflecting on his job and his vices, both things that make it harder for him to live a long life. He doesn't shy away from extinction. He knows it is coming and I think at times he wants to die. There are some points in Fleming where Bond really shows dark carelessness for his own future, like in TLD where he shows no care for being fired. I don't know, just my view on it so far.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    He knows it is coming and I think at times he wants to die.

    Don't know as I'd characterize it THAT dark, but after Tracy, his regard for his longevity is certainly in question IMO.

    James Bond doesn't strike me as one who will be living beyond his mid fifties in my estimation.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    chrisisall wrote:
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    He knows it is coming and I think at times he wants to die.

    Don't know as I'd characterize it THAT dark, but after Tracy, his regard for his longevity is certainly in question IMO.

    James Bond doesn't strike me as one who will be living beyond his mid fifties in my estimation.

    I just mean there are instances where he doesn't show concern for his life going on. Vesper's death no doubt rocked his world, and he has talked about the job of a 00 and their short life spans. And then there is his commentary on his depleting health after the 70 cigarettes a day.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    And then there is his commentary on his depleting health after the 70 cigarettes a day.
    That's kind of a death wish, as would be a pound of sugar or 2 litres of NO2 a day would be.... b-(
  • fjdinardofjdinardo
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    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    Uh.. to the sensitive ones who can't believe how us fans are even willing to discuss 'the end' of the series, calm down.

    No fans want to see it end. It's just fun to be speculative. I'd rather it 'end' in a film then have the series just stop being made suddenly.

    agree

  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    fjdinardo wrote:
    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    Uh.. to the sensitive ones who can't believe how us fans are even willing to discuss 'the end' of the series, calm down.

    No fans want to see it end. It's just fun to be speculative. I'd rather it 'end' in a film then have the series just stop being made suddenly.

    agree

    Yeah, just ending the films with no wrapping up would look sloppy. When the time comes, EON must decide to make that move and stick to it. Hopefully we will see MGW retiring, his son taking over, and then HIS son take over for him as well before any curtains are even thought of being called.
  • 00130013
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    As I said before, he should die at the same age than he's maker, at 56. Also his death shouldn't be romantic at all. However, we'll probably never see it in film...
  • emilbertilloemilbertillo
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    Here's how I want to see how he spent his last years:
    1964 - After the events of The Man With the Golden Gun, James Bond retired from field duty to settle for a more humble job in the MI6 HQ.
    1970 - Miles Messervy died in his office and Bond took over his position as M.
    1980 - James Bond found his 17 year old son, James Suzuki, in Japan. He brought him to London and legally adopted him as James Suzuki-Bond.
    1989-1991 - Glasnost and perestroika. James Bond supervised the end of the Cold War. Shortly after signing the documents of the dissolution of the USSR, he retired from the position of M and retired to a simple life.
    1991 - James Bond sold his house in Chelsea to live at a house near the sea. There, he started a small business. Up to that day he was still visited by his old friends Rene Mathis, Felix Leiter, and Bill Tanner.
    January 1, 2012 - James Bond died of old age, exactly 50 years after his marriage with Tracy di Vicenzo and her subsequent death. He was 91 years old. He was survived by his son and grandchildren.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    emilbertillo wrote:
    Here's how I want to see how he spent his last years:
    1964 - After the events of The Man With the Golden Gun, James Bond retired from field duty to settle for a more humble job in the MI6 HQ.
    1970 - Miles Messervy died in his office and Bond took over his position as M.
    1980 - James Bond found his 17 year old son, James Suzuki, in Japan. He brought him to London and legally adopted him as James Suzuki-Bond.
    1989-1991 - Glasnost and perestroika. James Bond supervised the end of the Cold War. Shortly after signing the documents of the dissolution of the USSR, he retired from the position of M and retired to a simple life.
    1991 - James Bond sold his house in Chelsea to live at a house near the sea. There, he started a small business. Up to that day he was still visited by his old friends Rene Mathis, Felix Leiter, and Bill Tanner.
    January 1, 2012 - James Bond died of old age, exactly 50 years after his marriage with Tracy di Vicenzo and her subsequent death. He was 91 years old. He was survived by his son and grandchildren.

    Boy do I like the sound of that!
  • Arsenal02071Arsenal02071
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    He'll do what he did in Skyfall, "enjoy death". No one will know where he is, but he'll be enjoying himself on a beach somewhere.
  • SpectreNumberOneSpectreNumberOne
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    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    I don't know. If Bond "lived his life to the fullest", I have a hard time believing he died so old as 89. I picture the Bond from the novels almost expecting his death to come sooner rather than later, and I enjoy that element of the books. Bond reflecting on his job and his vices, both things that make it harder for him to live a long life. He doesn't shy away from extinction. He knows it is coming and I think at times he wants to die. There are some points in Fleming where Bond really shows dark carelessness for his own future, like in TLD where he shows no care for being fired. I don't know, just my view on it so far.

    A person in harms way often thinks of death, dreaming of a way out, however they never take that route because it's not in their nature, they are survivors & Bond personifies that, a man constantly on the edge, he counters this with an air of flippancy & humour. Bond I believe is good enough to know when to get out and "Enjoy" not death but obscurity, as to the health issues of his life style, I believe that if your righteous in life maybe sometimes fate throws you a license to live, that extra element of invincibility that lets you survive long enough to find absolution.

    Amen!
  • emilbertilloemilbertillo
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    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    emilbertillo wrote:
    Here's how I want to see how he spent his last years:
    1964 - After the events of The Man With the Golden Gun, James Bond retired from field duty to settle for a more humble job in the MI6 HQ.
    1970 - Miles Messervy died in his office and Bond took over his position as M.
    1980 - James Bond found his 17 year old son, James Suzuki, in Japan. He brought him to London and legally adopted him as James Suzuki-Bond.
    1989-1991 - Glasnost and perestroika. James Bond supervised the end of the Cold War. Shortly after signing the documents of the dissolution of the USSR, he retired from the position of M and retired to a simple life.
    1991 - James Bond sold his house in Chelsea to live at a house near the sea. There, he started a small business. Up to that day he was still visited by his old friends Rene Mathis, Felix Leiter, and Bill Tanner.
    January 1, 2012 - James Bond died of old age, exactly 50 years after his marriage with Tracy di Vicenzo and her subsequent death. He was 91 years old. He was survived by his son and grandchildren.

    Boy do I like the sound of that!

    Thanks @Brady. I thought that Bond had a very complicated and miserable life, so I had to give him some kind of redemption and made him happy in his later years... but not without some kind of awesomeness. His death was like some kind of second marriage, going to where his wife is on their golden anniversary. I'm sure he would've wanted it that way.
  • jka12002jka12002 Banned
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    2009 - James Bond Jr joins MI6 and becomes 008 with his uncle 007 in charge as the new M. I.Q takes over Q branch the following year.
  • hoppimikehoppimike Kent, UK
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    I wonder if it really does ever have to end lol

    Possibly if it is forced to change so much it's unrecognizable.

    I don't really mind how it would go as long as it's with a bang!

    And I would like Martin Campbell to direct the bang lol
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    hoppimike wrote:
    I wonder if it really does ever have to end lol

    Possibly if it is forced to change so much it's unrecognizable.

    I don't really mind how it would go as long as it's with a bang!

    And I would like Martin Campbell to direct the bang lol

    We got through the Moore years. Bond will survive even when unrecognizable, I assure you.
  • hoppimikehoppimike Kent, UK
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    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    We got through the Moore years. Bond will survive even when unrecognizable, I assure you.

    hm, fair play O.O

    I mainly meant the concept of Bond becoming out of date (no more Cold War, etc)... but I suppose there will always be "bad guys" and a demand for an action hero :)
  • Baltimore_007Baltimore_007
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    As long as Bond's making money and garnering profits, it will continue

    Maybe not everybody likes Craig as James Bond 007, Maybe some don't like the return to a serious type Bond and minimum on humor (although last years release was slightly up on before, (Casino Royale and QOS) in that department), from what we saw with Brosnan and even before that. Maybe some see James Bond so far detached now from how they remember it, or aren't 100 % satisfied with what Bond today now resembles, but so long as theaters sell out and the money continues to come in (as last year demonstrated), James Bond movies will be here to stay

    Nothing is infinite, apart from maybe numbers and space, so in that regard (and people will realize) that James Bond, in some future point in time will come to an end. Has to come to an end. Maybe it won't be in some of our lifetimes, but more so with the younger generations, will most likely see an end to the franchise at some point in their lives

    If I think about now, I do feel James Bond will conclude at some point in the future, but damned if I can pinpoint when exactly that will be. But as with most things - nothing lasts forever
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    hoppimike wrote:
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    We got through the Moore years. Bond will survive even when unrecognizable, I assure you.

    hm, fair play O.O

    I mainly meant the concept of Bond becoming out of date (no more Cold War, etc)... but I suppose there will always be "bad guys" and a demand for an action hero :)

    I don't really see the world in black and white, good and evil, especially as I mature further in life. The great thing about the espionage world (and our times in general) is that we live in shades of gray. As we see in Skyfall or Fleming's text about Good and Evil in Casino Royale, not only must heroes use villainous methods to defeat villains, villains are the only reason for the existence of heroes. Furthermore, who is to say who is the hero and who is the villain when both sides think they are the most righteous in their cause? Thoughts like this keep me interested in life.
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