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Yeah Congo’s score is great. Of its time, but still great. And crucially he follows the Bond standard of playing actual tunes during action scenes. David Arnold take note ;)
I’ve said it before, but whenever I’m skiing at speed I want to hum OHMSS to myself, but it’s always Runaway that comes to mind
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I never had a problem with the pre-titles, the submarine scene or Bill Conti's distinctively 80's sound. My major gripe is that it never really stands out at any level, except maybe Topol being of the better allies.
Other more grounded films have some of the franchise's best moments but here that's not so much the case. My least favourite of the Glen films, the Moore era and maybe even of all the pre-1990 entries. Having said that it is still an enjoyable ride nevertheless.
(Always quite liked both Locque and Ferrara, who never really get any attention, so I'm just saying it)
I'd mostly agree, but I think I'd definitely say that the car and ski chases are two of the very best action scenes in the whole series.
Watching this again though, that is a crap quip from Roger at the end! :) "He had no head for heights". It might have worked if the guy's head had exploded or he'd gone off Beachy Head or something, but otherwise there's no pun or wordplay going on there at all
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A visually beautiful film to watch, with good old fashioned cold war thrills.
As with all Bond films there are elements that I would remove or tweak. However FYEO is anything but boring.
I honestly think there are many things that stand out in FYEO. It might not have flashy stuff like a woman painted in gold, a villain with metal teeth, volcano sets or an Aston Martin with gadgets. But many scenes stand out on pure quality. The car chase is the best and most enjoyable in the series, the ski chase has some incredible, memorable stunt work and the mountain climbing finale is unique and very tense (compared to some other action finales in the Moore films that are often quite drawn out and dull). The scene where Moore coldly dispatches of Loque has been talked about a lot on this thread already for good reason. It is one of the best moments in the Moore era. Adding to that i always enjoy the locations massively in this film and it delivers brilliantly on the travelogue aspect of Bond. The Italian Dolomites and the Greek Islands are very much to my taste and shot beautifully. St Cyrils is a great villain's lair. No, all in all I'd say there are plenty of memorable things in FYEO.
I like to think that it was deliberate to depict Bond as older, a bit slower on his feet! (The most obvious, his rejection of Bibis advances!)
I think Moore is very good in it. The scene with Kristatos at dinner "you may have to kill him (Colombo) does that.... deter you?"
"Just tell me where he is?" Moore delivers that line as good as any of the Bonds!
A recent watch of FYEO was a joy for me, as most said, a few tweaks and it would be up there with the best of them! For those who say Glens visuals are poor, FYEO disproves that, it's a very stylish Bond movie! Due for reassessment I reckon
(40th anniversary next year, phew!!)
Bravo!!! +1.
DAF gets quite boring during the middle section, but FYEO is ok. Me and FYEO , we are cool.
I hope i might change my mind about FYEO at some point as well. Currently it sadly is the most boring Bond film to me, nothing about it is engaging to me, and i think the score is mostly to blame.
Though TSWLM used to be somewhere at the bottom at my list, and now it's top 7, so who knows.
Yeah I don't think 'boring' is the right word: it's just not as glittery as other Bonds. Even the other 'gritty' Bonds don't have quite the dull sheen this one does.
For example, the casino scene in this one feels a bit grotty and downbeat: Bond is sort of slumped at a small card table surrounded by some pretty ugly people(!) whilst a sort of hammond organ version of what seems to be the EastEnders theme is playing! Then he goes outside to a fairly uninteresting terrace to have dinner with a middle aged-man. By the next film he's walking past an enormous swimming pool filled with bikinied beauties to have dinner in a stunning courtyard with a beautiful woman- it feels a bit more glittery! :)
I was going to mention Stromberg but you beat me to it. Moore could've pulled off the Dent scene, although it might have played out a little differently. No cigarette for starters.
Sometimes people forget Roger's more ruthless moments because that's not what we saw from him the majority of the time. He turned it on when he had to though. If he didn't want to kick the car, you'd never know it from watching that scene. It's a damned fine performance if you ask me.
The fact that he didn't imitate Connery is a credit to him, he created his own version of Bond that had a lighter touch. People forget that the light comedy was in the series all the way back to DN. Moore just played that element more. But he could still play it serious. It was also a sign of the times for many of the films of 70's and 80's in general.
+1.
Agreed, particularly regarding moments where Moore portraying Bond in moments that would be considered Flemingesque. Keep in mind that in the books Bond often had a laugh to himself and I feel that Roger sometimes does convey that on screen, IMO.
Yes indeed, although I guess they are one of the more ridiculous things. How often could a guy possibly get in that situation? :D
It’s not until Brosnan that I start getting bored. Chunks of Craig are dull too.
I am a bit old school and personally I don’t think any of the movies after Moonraker is actually a proper James Bond film at all. After Moonraker, for me each movie stands or falls on its own merits.
Will likely give the film a spin as I'm hunkered down like so many these days.
The making of doc is very entertaining , love the part about the protesting monks! (Hanging out their washing to ruin the shot...priceless!)
One of the things I took away from it was the real tension between Kristatos and Kreigler. In another thread, I noted the resemblance between Kristatos' henchman Apostis and actor Adam Driver. I may have noted this before, but this may well rival QoS and SF as the least sexy Bond film of all. Melina is mostly hands-off and Bibi can't be taken seriously, while Countess Lisl is the only real conquest. Not that this is necessary to enjoyment of a Bond film, but those were not traditional Bonds like FYEO is. Ironic also in that this film has the most sexy poster.
I was curious as to if there's a missing line. As this was one of the first of the Bonds I saw numerous times when it was still new, I memorized most of the dialogue and when Bond and Lisl are on the beach, when Loque and Claus appear, I thought Bond asked "Friends of yours?" or did that come from another Moore film? I don't have my SE DVD as it's in storage to compare it to or any VHS copies.
A couple of problems also arose: Just why would Melina randomly leave her oxygen tank on the bottom of the sea? It's a too convenient excuse for them to wait out Kristatos.
The other is just why is it necessary for Melina to leave Neptune and accompany Bond to recover the ATAC in the wrecked St. Georges? She contributes nothing but holding a light. Besides that, Bond says to not speak to conserve air, but he's making quips and reading the instructions on disarming the bomb aloud. I still recall a lady mentioning this during my first screening of this.
Yet the execution is all wrong. Yes, the direction is rather dull and flat, the Conti soundtrack is pretty drab too (surprising, considering how much I love his work on Rocky and Escape to Victory), and Moore feels very miscast.
The script would have worked far better in the Dalton era, once Glen defined and honed his directing skills a lot more, or the Craig era, had it been directed by Campbell, giving us the raw, tough edge with a bruised and bloody Bond.
FYEO is one of the few films I find very hard to engage with.
I don't recall that line from Bond on the beach. But the memory does fade. The Melina to the St. Georges wreck makes no sense. Yes I love how Bond says not to speak and then he's quipping "I hope he's dining alone"! LOL!
I never understood why someone would leave their tank underwater. Maybe she's able to see the future and knows it will come in handy? LOL
You mean literally having sex, right?
You don't need to see Bond having sex for the film to be 'sexy'. Though I do agree that FYEO is the least 'sexy' Bond film. There's an innate and neutered quality to the film. More drab and dour.
But SF and QOS are both very sexy to me...whether it be the locations, the girls, Bond himself. Seeing Bond actually bonk doesn't make a film 'sexy', it has more to do with tone and mood.
In this sense, I do agree that FYEO is not a sexy film.....Melina and Bond have a more paternal relationship. Also, Carole Bouquet is a little aloof and stern. Suitable for the character but a little blah imo.
A little Google search is convincing me otherwise...........