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Definitely. It's the only convincing love match in the whole Rog era tbh.
I remember thinking how preposterously awful the GE plane dive looked when I saw it in the theater.
The final scene where Bouquet derobes comes across kinda gross and creepy. This is when people should have known Moore needed to be replaced. Maybe somebody with foresight placed Moore with Adams in the next film - somebody who was looking about as old as him.[/quote]
Why is it gross and creepy? Its not uncommon that young women find older men attractive.And Moore wasnt THAT old at the time.Heck, today 50 is the new 40.Tom Cruise is in his late fifties and hes doing highly dangerous stunts for REAL and his love interest is at least 20 years younger than him and doesnt come across as creepy or unbelievable at all.
The final scene where Bouquet derobes comes across kinda gross and creepy. This is when people should have known Moore needed to be replaced. Maybe somebody with foresight placed Moore with Adams in the next film - somebody who was looking about as old as him.[/quote]
Why is it gross and creepy? Its not uncommon that young women find older men attractive.And Moore wasnt THAT old at the time.Heck, today 50 is the new 40.Tom Cruise is in his late fifties and hes doing highly dangerous stunts for REAL and his love interest is at least 20 years younger than him and doesnt come across as creepy or unbelievable at all.
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Cruise looks at least 10 years younger than his age.
The final scene where Bouquet derobes comes across kinda gross and creepy. This is when people should have known Moore needed to be replaced. Maybe somebody with foresight placed Moore with Adams in the next film - somebody who was looking about as old as him.[/quote]
Why is it gross and creepy? Its not uncommon that young women find older men attractive.And Moore wasnt THAT old at the time.Heck, today 50 is the new 40.Tom Cruise is in his late fifties and hes doing highly dangerous stunts for REAL and his love interest is at least 20 years younger than him and doesnt come across as creepy or unbelievable at all.
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Of course. But it looked weird for THOSE two, who shared ZERO romantic chemistry for two hours. The issue isn't the age - smarmy Moore worked fine when he was younger, but smarmy Moore twice the age of the leading ladies in a bit off.
I am also in the tiny minority that finds a few stretches of GF a bit boring. That is why GF is usually around 10th for me instead of at the VERY top.
It's only at 17 for me, because I find those Kentucky scenes extremely dull. I don't have that feeling with any of the 16 films preceding it.
Having said this, Guy Hamilton was probably the most inconsistent of the early Bond directors.
I absolutely adore Goldfinger. It’s one of my six desert island Bond movies, alongside CR, DN, FRWL, TB and OHMSS. Most of us love GF. It’s just that it’s been built up by the public and the media as the end-all, be-all, Greatest Ever Bond Movie Ever, and while we more hardcore Bond fans tend to love it too, most of us have a different pick for number one, whether it’s OHMSS, DN, FRWL, TSWLM, TB, and speaking personally here, CR.
While I agree that it has gotten out of hand, the backlash is only natural after the general agreement of GF’s untouchable greatness has been so hammered in for so long.
That's interesting: I haven't heard that. Makes complete sense as that's what I've been saying my problem with LALD is- it's very static and Bond goes back and forth for a long stretch of it. Bond films aren't murder mysteries: they're really long chases.
See I actually prefer it when he's a bit older because, well, it's funnier. I don't believe it for a second, but that's part of the fun, isn't it? :) I love Roger in these movies because I feel like I'm having a laugh with him- it's all very silly and we both know it but that doesn't stop it being fun.
Exactly. A good film no doubt and nobody can deny it's iconic status, but there are other great Bond Films, arguably better ones, from the era that seem to be overlooked in its shadow.
Agreed. I like it a lot. Just like 8-9 more.
I like the Moore films in general. I don't mind light-hearted-Bond at all.
Yeah I've always put them up with the car chase and opening sequence of Tomorrow Never Dies as being the best action in the series. I guess I'd add the opening foot chase from Casino Royale to that, maybe the opening of Skyfall possibly.
Also, is this the only Bond movie where Bond rejects a sexual encounter on the basis of age gap? ("I'll buy you an ice cream" puts Bond himself in the "Uncle" context and makes the whole audience aware of his age (and we are aware that he is aware) but not in a creative/character arc way. (back to SF)
Its a shame as FYEO had the chance to be an all time classic but I can't overlook these issues.
The climbing scene boring? I think I mentioned it before that it is (imo) one of the most thrilling scenes in the series, definitely in the Moore era.
I don't have issues with the fact that Bond is/looks much older than Melina. My problem is that Bouquet shows one of the weakest performances of all the bondgirls. During the car chase Bond says something like he's sorry for what happened to her parents. There, Melina doesn't answer but gives me a look that says: “sorry I can't act but I try to stare a bit different now“'.
And I didn't know that Moore's Bond asks for information so often. That's great trivia.
I just started watching the film, and I'll say the editing (and no doubt direction too) during the car chase near Gonzales' home is excellent. They keep things moving along at a good clip, keep your attention. Nice suit, shirt and tie Moore wears meeting with the Chief of Staff and Defense Minister, though I would've left the vest out of the three-piece. I also think some of the appeal in the film comes from all the Greek locale scenery--Bond wasn't there in any previous film, was he?-- though I really love the Cortina segment too, and on the yacht and at the Albania wearhouse! (yet to come)--and the dinner, as Octopussy mentioned.
https://classiq.me/this-summer-were-chanelling-carole-bouquet-in-for-your-eyes-only
It does make me laugh a bit when Melina says she’s half-Greek though.
“Hee keeled ma parontz”
:D
Thanks @Thrasos for that interesting comment. I also own theBond Archives but didn't remember the hair comment. Her hair is fine, indeed.
On that subject, here's one to seek out if you can find it: Bouquet starred in a movie with 2 Bond villains, Christopher Walken and Jonathan Pryce in a movie called A Business Affair from 1994. Pryce is Bouquet's husband and Walken is a literary agent who is trying to bed her when she tries to put out a book.
It's a comedy from what I remember. I watched it just because of that connection. Walken is in classic Walken mode and I think he and Pryce have a punch-up. Bouquet is very attractive in it.
See https://supposedlyfun.com/2014/08/28/the-bond-movie-series-for-your-eyes-only/ and the earlier discussion here: Did Nikki van der Zyl dub Carole Bouquet in For Your Eyes Only?