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Any chance to listen to/buy this song online?
I myself would love to have it. But what I heard was a demo. A well crafted demo, but still unfinished. He said he will eventually release it in some form if he ever finishes it. The guy's name is Ralf Rotier. In case he ever gets big you heard it from me first :))
What's all this talk of the Stones, Eurythmics and Depeche Mode? Hilarious. Have any of them written a decent tune in the past two decades? Without Barry to inject the necessary genius, all of these acts would be awful. And Thomas Newman is not about to step into the breach to write a classic title song - because he doesn't have the ability to do it. They'd be better off asking his cousin, Randy. He did the job for Toy Story!
From your lips to G-d's (EON's) ears. :)
Also agree about Arnold no doubt helping Cornell. Arnold was skilled at integrating the soundtrack and the title song, something Newman does not appear to be. Newman may be a competent composer but I just feel he is very ill suited to doing a Bond film and he didn't seem to help much with Adele's title song which was, for me, decent, but not great. I just think Smith is hugely overrated and when I heard a recent interview with him, he just made me roll my eyes. Granted he is a very young kid, I just fear him getting this gig, as we will then have to listen to him tie himself to Bond, endlessly promoting himself at what I think will be the expense of the film. Hope I'm wrong on all this.
Clearly you are not aware of how much great music Depeche Mode have written in the last 20 years, their latest album while not up with their greats still has some impressive moments and in the last 2 decades they've produced plenty of great songs. Barrel of Gun is undoubtedly one of those never great Bond themes.
DM wouldn't need Barry to produce something great they can do that kind of thing on their own thanks. Defending flavour of the moment Sam Smith but slagging off one of Britain's greatest bands of the last thirty years, I'd stick to slagging off Skyfall that's where your talents lie.
My defence of Sam Smith is more from a pragmatic perspective - like Adele, he'd be a canny marketing move. I don't personally hold out much hope of a classic song from anyone until EON starts insisting on the artist collaborating with the score composer, which I don't see happening while Newman is on board.
Not having heard DM for years, it's a bit unfair of me to dismiss them out of hand, but right now, based on what I can see, Sam Smith seems a smarter commercial move.
Just listened to Barrel of a Gun. Not bad but don't really see it as a Bond track or particularly understand why you think they're any more qualified than Sam Smith to do the title track.
I just brought this up as a guess given there was talk by someone in the know that there might be a 'classic' act performing either the end titles or potentially the main title track as well. I don't have an opinion on it either way really.
Personally I too think Cornell's YKMN is far and away the best title track since Barry's days. I have a feeling it will be Sam Smith as well (just because EON got a lot of mileage out of Adele last time and they probably will want a similar effect this time, and Smith is hot at the moment - although I personally don't care for him at all).
I'd like a classic act to do it, but it's unlikely given the need to get marketing traction via airplay.
Someone mentioned Timberlake above, which I think would be tragic - I can't stand that self-aggrandizing smirky punk, although I reluctantly admit he's talented.
I'd like U2 to do it - they'd give us something edgy, like Cornell did.
Their new album shows they've still got it but they aren't going to cause the big media storm that Sam Smith or the return of Adele would bring on. I think it will be either of those two to be honest.
Although if another artist is possibly doing the end title theme at least we might have one decent tune associated with the film.
Look I'm not saying a Sam Smith lead theme is going to be terrible but his voice doesn't actually lend itself to something as sinister as SPECTRE and a harder edged approach would serve the film better. Adele's tortured ballad suited Skyfall's tone and story but that kind of thing is not what is likely to be one of the most full throttle Bond films of recent times needs.
Both the theme and score I feel are likely to be the most disappointing thing about SPECTRE but you can't everything and if it comes down to having a Barry quality score and theme but with a film similar to the quality of DAF, MR , OP or VTAK I'm happy to deal with underwhelming music if SPECTRE is as good as it looks.
Surrender is perhaps better?
Slightly off topic but I do think that for the fact Arnold was willing and able to help compose decent title songs and integrate them into the score that he was better than Newman.
Do you think Newman is even aware that integrating the title track melody into the score is the bedrock of most of the classic Bond scores?
I imagine he does but I'm not sure it's his fault that they haven't done it since CR, I think the singer probably insists on who they collaborate with, the likes of Adele would no doubt wanted Epworth and no one else but who knows the politics behind this?
I think if Arnold had collaborated with Jack White we would have definitely had something better though than his and Keys version of AWTD. I don't hate the track at all I just think it could have been much better but White had to deliver it quite quickly considering Amy Winehouse was set to do it till late in the day, I think some people forget this, whereas Adele had much more time to craft her theme.
it was discussed but remains just a rumor at the moment
Hopefully it stays that way!
As Kristatos would say: "A very sick joke"
Yes. He co-wrote "Down to Earth" with Peter Gabriel for the film Wall-E.
Interesting that this came up, because I have always thought that song sounded like a Bond song.
If I had a choice for SP, it would be Coldplay. A British group has not done the theme since Duran Duran. Whats up with that? I think Coldplay could bring something to the table. "Charlie Brown" has the sound of a Bond title song:
KD Lang & David Arnold's 'Surrender' is the best 007-song from the post Moore era, bar none. Last time I watched TND I played it on the iPod whilst muting the TV during the title sequence... just makes far more sense for the whole movie and soundtrack.
Closely followed by 'You know my name'.
Then I can only imagine what you think of the aHa theme for TLD. :)
A bit off topic, but a-Ha are reunited.
*grabs popcorn*
I never saw the appeal for Bassy. Anyone agree?
Anyone?
Yes I do enjoy YKMN as a song more but Barry's instrumentals no chance, I'm not a fan of Tom Jones TB title track but the instrumental is sublime.
Bassey is much better served with DAF, no I hate the film but that alongside YOLT is probably the best title songs of the series. OHMSS doesn't count as it's an instrumental but that would be my all time favourite theme though.
I'll second Coldplay getting nowhere near Bond, Chris Martin has such a weedy voice. Bono or Gahan would be amazing, they both have powerful soulful voices well suited to a Bond theme but not some subpar U2/Radiohead tribute act like CP.
Radiohead thought would be incredible but that I'm afraid would be only in my dreams.
GF is far from my favourite track, but it is iconic. I actually prefer DAF & the disco end credits for MR from her.
I also am not a big fan of the GF score either. I think Barry was still getting his feet wet. By TB he'd found his sound and just knocked it out of the park. I may be in the minority here, but I actually also really like Tom Jones's TB track. He really belts it out.
My $0.02 :)