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Agreed. It's a great song.
Yesterday to a 5:40 version, audio is is't very good but this version sound much better.
I don't whant go to dive it to much in to lyrics, but get idea the song is closer in predict the future with You Know My Name, a bit more hide/more dificult les in to your face then Skyfall and Another Way To Die.
Thanks for that, interesting. A really good song has "long legs" and by word of mouth, radio play etc, more listeners decide to invest in their own copy, staying at no 1 leads to more radio play etc. An upward spiral.
The issue re radio play is a valid one IMHO. Most radio shows want to be upbeat and be a positive listening experience, putting their listeners in a good frame of mind. As a DJ, would you want to be playing SS's effort? Doesn't really put a spring in the step. SF was similar BUT it did have progression, it moved to a climax/crescendo.
I think the song suits a woman's voice. :)
And Skyfall was the first Bond song to sell a million digital copies, SS will not even come close. A complete and utter creative and commercial failure.
WOTW - I still can't believe it, this is our Bond song, can't believe it was sanctioned by Bendes, the Craig and the EON.
Oversinging is not a word found in common dictionaries, but it is a well-known phenomenon.[1][2] Using an oversimplified example one could say that a singer oversings by "singing too much", as an actor overacts by "acting too much".
There are different opinions on what oversinging implies, though it usually implies one or both of the following:
Belting to an extreme by singing too loud by pushing one's singing voice "too much" (straining), or singing into a higher or lower range than is comfortable for one's voice (beyond one's useful vocal range).
Excessive use of runs, whoops, and vocal falsettos melisma.
Glad to see he's using the best part of the song again. The SF cash in is also at work.
I don't listen to popular radio much these days, but I've heard more depressing stuff than this get excess radio play in my time (Celine Dion's stinker for Titanic comes to mind) so I don't know if the downer feeling it gives is necessarily the cause. I also don't know much about how the itunes chart works. Is this as bad as it looks? I'd watch the trend on the Billboard airplay and singles sales charts for the real indication of where this thing goes.
This bit below is exactly what I said on another thread. Herein lies the problem imho: It is, to my ears, a watered down and less effective SF, and also seems like an obvious cash-in move. If they had gone with a different sound from the predecessor film, less obvious comparisons could be made.I also agree that NDIB is a work of art.
"Choosing a very early songwriter with few credits was a gamble on the part of the Bond people. Maybe they thought they’d get something with a gospel-feel. But Smith simply re-watered “Skyfall.” Also, after Adele’s giant anthem was such a hit, won an Oscar etc, it may have been time for something either more uptempo, rock song like “Live and Let Die,” or a big pop ballad by experts.
Remember too that Marvin Hamlisch and Carole Bayer Sager wrote “Nobody Does it Better.” Carly Simon sang it. Richard Perry produced it. This was like having the 1927 Yankees make your record."
Sounds a lot different without Smith's theatrical vocals.
PS so they are referencing SF in the video? clever or a cheap trick to ride on the SF coat tails?
Like BondJames, I'm a bit baffled. Surely EON realized this song would be massively polarizing. So they decided to go ahead anyway, figuring any hype was ok?
Would help the cause if so called Bond fans didn't consistently blow a gasket over it. Some of the comments are the work of self-entitled buffoons. 'This isn't Bond!' Guess what? It is. Deal with it and move on.
Run with it and add some Bondian orchestration?
Tell them to go back and write something else?
Get someone else in to create something new urgently?
Have a plan B in reserve just in case?
What baffles me is that Mendes seems to have understood the Bond culture. I have read interviews where he remembers as a child playing with the toy car etc. He is the right age to be soaked in Bond culture as he grew up, surrounded by all the Bond cultural references including the music. He is obviously a very clever guy and sensitive to what the public want. I just cant figure it out and its really bugging me.
That's how negative the overall reaction really is… :))
That is very true. Single sales globally are not what they were by any means so these kinds of comparisons over time are meaningless (I'm pretty sure many of the Bond songs could have been #1 if they needed to make the sales numbers one needs today to get to that number).
At the end of the day, it is good UK marketing however, but that is to some extent unnecessary, as this film is likely going to break records in the UK (as most of DC's Bond films have done). The key markets are the overseas ones.
Mendes is a Bond fan -many people are, and as we all know that does not necessarily qualify someone to make Bond movies.
I was one of a tiny minority on here when SF came out who questioned whether Mendes did really understand Bond culture.
Any way, I'm hopeful about SP. Pretty much everything I've seen so far suggests it's going to be a massive improvement on SF.
I don't have an issue actually with Mendes getting Smith to do the song. I was expecting better though. I am more worried about Thomas Newman's score.
The popular chart position obviously has nothing to do with quality.
I'm not a hipster but I would generally agree that anything that panders to the masses is usually of questionable caliber... lowest common denominator and all that.
At least, it brought awareness to the film and obviously, judging the charts, people are listening to it. Like or not.
Basically if you hate the track you can pull out the lowest common denominator argument when hit hits no.1 and if sales drop off it's simply the result of it being crap. All the negative chat is arse achingly dull already.
It's cool. I have a hot water bottle on hand.
I hardly need to 'pull out' the lowest common denominator argument for a Sam Smith track... is sort of does that for itself :>
If you don't like it.
So far the discussion has been quite informative, in my view. Like other contentious (SF debate) threads for example.
At least people are talking either way, which is good. If anyone is so turned off that they stop being a Bond fan or are ashamed to see the film as a result of this, then that would upset me however.
Nothing to do with like - I like quite a lot of bland stuff... Toto, George Michael and yes even some Phil Collins, heaven forbid :-j