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  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,359
    What it always means. Bond does something epic in the first scene, roll title sequence. B-)
  • antovolkantovolk
    Posts: 3,164
    Empire Magazine are suggesting we may hear the song today - http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=45328
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
    Posts: 2,138
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    OK, so we know that this bloke Sammy will be doing the theme. The big question now is what that will mean for the song and the film.

    It is difficult to say, a lot of people jumping to the conclusion it will be a slow number. But Sam Smith does two very different style, slower Dirgy soul ballads like "you know i'm not the only one" but then he does more upbeat stuff like "Money on my mind" at his live shows he covers a whole range of songs from Whitney Houston to Nirvana. He's a Tenor Vocal Range is key range is G#2. As a fan of the themes I would suspect it will be something brassy with Strings and free standing bass. Reckon he will take a real classic approach. My only issue with the title is having the word wall, he may use words like fall, crumble, stumble and stand tall to flow in to the line writings on the wall

    =))
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
    Posts: 7,584
    HASEROT wrote: »
    NicNac wrote: »
    The excitement will be palpable, and on the 25th everyone will come on here to slag the song off and proclaim the end of civilisation as we know it. Can't wait.
    ;)

    @NicNac

    the reaction that some (or most) of the members of this forum will have when listening to the song... lol

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    hah yea :))

    Music is more divisive than anything else (even film posters!). One man's classic is another man's 3 minutes of torture.

  • antovolkantovolk
    Posts: 3,164


    Music video confirmed too - also "I wanted to make the most classic, timeless Bond song...and an epic love song"
  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
    Posts: 4,012
    antovolk wrote: »


    Music video confirmed too - also "I wanted to make the most classic, timeless Bond song...and an epic love song"

    Love song? We haven't had one of those for a while.
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    marketto007 wrote: »
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    antovolk wrote: »


    Music video confirmed too - also "I wanted to make the most classic, timeless Bond song...and an epic love song"

    Didn't we hear a similar remark back in 2012 when Paul Epworth and Adele were saying they finished the song in...about an hour :-P?
  • fanbond123fanbond123
    edited September 2015 Posts: 1,661
    Sam Smith - Writing's On the Wall:




    ;)
  • Gareth007fanGareth007fan
    Posts: 330
    SirHilaryBray wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    OK, so we know that this bloke Sammy will be doing the theme. The big question now is what that will mean for the song and the film.

    It is difficult to say, a lot of people jumping to the conclusion it will be a slow number. But Sam Smith does two very different style, slower Dirgy soul ballads like "you know i'm not the only one" but then he does more upbeat stuff like "Money on my mind" at his live shows he covers a whole range of songs from Whitney Houston to Nirvana. He's a Tenor Vocal Range is key range is G#2. As a fan of the themes I would suspect it will be something brassy with Strings and free standing bass. Reckon he will take a real classic approach. My only issue with the title is having the word wall, he may use words like fall, crumble, stumble and stand tall to flow in to the line writings on the wall

    =))

    Says nothing about today. says 25th sep
  • Gareth007fanGareth007fan
    Posts: 330
    I think the problem I have is its such an uninspiring choice. Oh, lets pick the male adele. Couldn't they just have gone with something better.
  • TuxedoTuxedo Europe
    Posts: 262
    Don't know what to think. He wanted to make "the most classic, timeless Bond song" and that took him 20 minutes to write. Hmmm...

    I really don't like any of his songs. And I don't like the way he sings either which is why I can't figure how he can fit with what I've seen so far from Spectre. But IF he delivers the right Bondian tune for the movie I'll be fine with him.
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
    Posts: 2,138
    Think everyone should wait and hear the record first and then post a score out of 10. The lyrics may have taken 20 minutes, The music around it could be phenomenal for all we know. Elton John wrote your song on a train in 20 minutes, its one of his most successful records.
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    SirHilaryBray wrote: »
    Think everyone should wait and hear the record first and then post a score out of 10. The lyrics may have taken 20 minutes, The music around it could be phenomenal for all we know. Elton John wrote your song on a train in 20 minutes, its one of his most successful records.

    Exactly.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
    Posts: 13,384
    If a talented person is inspired, you'd be surprised what they could
    do in 20 minutes. ;)
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
    edited September 2015 Posts: 2,138
    DrGorner wrote: »
    If a talented person is inspired, you'd be surprised what they could
    do in 20 minutes. ;)

    Well said, Ed Sheeren wrote "thinking out loud" in 20 minutes it's been a massive hit for him. If you have the talent you know your music structure Verse, Verse, Bridge Chorus Verse, Verse, alternative bridge bigger chorus for finale BOOM! WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER!
  • fanbond123fanbond123
    edited September 2015 Posts: 1,661
    Sam Smith's inspiration for the song title:

    At 2 mins 18 seconds:



    ;)
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
    Posts: 13,384
    I wonder if the inspiration came from Bond's name being
    scrawled on the monument to fallen agents, seen in the trailer ?
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    edited September 2015 Posts: 3,157
    fanbond123 wrote: »
    Sam Smith's inspiration for the song title:

    At 2 mins 18 seconds:



    ;)


    =))
  • fanbond123fanbond123
    edited September 2015 Posts: 1,661
    I'm not an english native speaker, could someone please explain me what "the writing's on the wall" means?

    Wikipedia:
    The phrase "writing on the wall" (or sometimes handwriting on the wall) is an expression thats suggests future doom or misfortune, visible to almost anyone. For example, She saw the handwriting on the wall and left the company before it collapsed.

    According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the expression originates from chapter 5 of the Old Testament Book of Daniel.

  • antovolkantovolk
    Posts: 3,164
    Clarification from the site that reported on the song being released today:
    http://www.hitfix.com/motion-captured/sam-smiths-james-bond-theme-is-right-around-the-corner
    And, yes, I did indeed report yesterday that the song would be available today. Obviously, it was the full details of the song that my sources heard about, not the song itself.

    It also, obviously, refutes my report here yesterday. Here's the thing… it is precisely because of things like Smith spending months saying, "I'm not doing that song" that it is hard to know what to do with a studio denial of something.

    In this case, Sony wouldn't confirm what they were doing this morning in conjunction with the ticket pre-sales, or even that there was going to be something released or announced. We reached out to them for comment, but the studio declined to make a comment. In that case, we went with a trusted source.

    I see how the wires got tangled, but this is a mea culpa. I pulled the trigger on the story, and I was wrong. So while you have to wait 19 more days than I said you would, at least now we know what the song is and when we are actually going to hear it.
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    edited September 2015 Posts: 11,119
    DrGorner wrote: »
    I wonder if the inspiration came from Bond's name being
    scrawled on the monument to fallen agents, seen in the trailer ?

    The entire writing process of "Writing's On The Wall" seems very similar to "Skyfall". Both Adele/Paul Epworth and Sam Smith/Jimmy Napes got involved in the writing process of the film very early. I wouldn't be surprised that Smith/Napes really started brainstorming with the cast/crew already back in November. So that they could go ahead with the song in a very early stage. Hence the link between the song title and the memorial wall on the destroyed MI6-building.

    I expect a similar breathtaking crooner/soul-ballad as well. I sincerely hope so.

    There's also quite a weird comparison I just made:

    The 1960's:
    --> "DOCTOR NO"s song "Three Blind Mice": Not a hit at all. Used throughout the film.
    --> "FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE"s song "From Russia With Love": Forgettable crooner/Eurovision-esque song. Still no hit.
    --> "GOLDFINGER"s song "Goldfinger": Instant hit! Memorable melody, event song
    --> "THUNDERBALL"s song "Thunderball": Going down the Bassey road with this time a male version of a Goldfinger-esque song.

    The 2010's:
    --> "CASINO ROYALE"s song "You Know My Name": Not a hit at all. Used throughout the film
    --> "QUANTUM OF SOLACE"s song "Another Way To Die": Forgettable rock song. Still no real hit.
    --> "SKYFALL"s song "Skyfall": Instant hit! Memorable melody, Oscar winner.
    --> "SPECTRE"s song "Writing's On The Wall": Let's see, Sam Smith confirmed it's a..love song? Going down the Adele road, with this time a male version of a Skyfall-esque song?
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Posts: 3,157
    fanbond123 wrote: »
    I'm not an english native speaker, could someone please explain me what "the writing's on the wall" means?

    Wikipedia:
    The phrase "writing on the wall" (or sometimes handwriting on the wall) is an expression thats suggests future doom or misfortune, visible to almost anyone. For example, She saw the handwriting on the wall and left the company before it collapsed.

    According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the expression originates from chapter 5 of the Old Testament Book of Daniel.
    Ok, thank you very much!
  • fjdinardofjdinardo
    Posts: 1,985
    So it looks like its just Sam Smith and not Ellie with him. And it looks like we have another theme like "All Time High, You Know My Name" where the the films title is not in the so
  • bondsumbondsum
    Posts: 3,333
    Gustav_Graves wrote: »
    The 1960's:
    --> "FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE"s song "From Russia With Love": Forgettable crooner/Eurovision-esque song. Still no hit.

    I agree with everything you say apart from this, @Gustuv. Forgettable crooner! His song for Born Free won an Oscar! I know how you love the Oscars so I'm surprised by your oversight on his film song legacy. Also a FRWL song that peaked in the UK Top 20 is hardly a flop, especially as Bond wasn't known back in 1963 for its title song, or end credits song in Matt Monro's case. Bond had yet to catch on Stateside so a single record release was unlikely at the time.

    The fact that George Martin also wanted to work with Monro, alongside John Barry on four seperate musical score occasions, plus Quincy Jones (The Italian Job) elevates him higher than your withering dismisal. I don't think Monro deserves this.
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    bondsum wrote: »
    Gustav_Graves wrote: »
    The 1960's:
    --> "FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE"s song "From Russia With Love": Forgettable crooner/Eurovision-esque song. Still no hit.

    I agree with everything you say apart from this, @Gustuv. Forgettable crooner! His song for Born Free won an Oscar! I know how you love the Oscars so I'm surprised by your oversight on his film song legacy. Also a FRWL song that peaked in the UK Top 20 is hardly a flop, especially as Bond wasn't known back in 1963 for its title song, or end credits song in Matt Monro's case. Bond had yet to catch on Stateside so a single record release was unlikely at the time.

    The fact that George Martin also wanted to work with Monro, alongside John Barry on four seperate musical score occasions, plus Quincy Jones (The Italian Job) elevates him higher than your withering dismisal. I don't think Monro deserves this.

    Agreed. This is one of my all time favourite songs on film.

  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
    Posts: 4,012
    bondsum wrote: »
    Gustav_Graves wrote: »
    The 1960's:
    --> "FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE"s song "From Russia With Love": Forgettable crooner/Eurovision-esque song. Still no hit.

    I agree with everything you say apart from this, @Gustuv. Forgettable crooner! His song for Born Free won an Oscar! I know how you love the Oscars so I'm surprised by your oversight on his film song legacy. Also a FRWL song that peaked in the UK Top 20 is hardly a flop, especially as Bond wasn't known back in 1963 for its title song, or end credits song in Matt Monro's case. Bond had yet to catch on Stateside so a single record release was unlikely at the time.

    The fact that George Martin also wanted to work with Monro, alongside John Barry on four seperate musical score occasions, plus Quincy Jones (The Italian Job) elevates him higher than your withering dismisal. I don't think Monro deserves this.

    Yep! FRWL is a great song and Matt Monro was far from forgettable!
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    Posts: 12,480
    Well. I'll try to judge it only when I hear it. But for it to be co written by him in 20 minutes and he loves Another Way To Die ... that bodes ill. And I have not liked his voice, what I've heard (which is only a little). But sure, it's Bond - so maybe he's put together a Bondian song. I'll just try to give him the opportunity to win us over before whining too much.

    Here's to hoping it's a great song and that he can put it over. Far from reassured, but happy to be surprised. [-O<
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
    Posts: 13,384
    It's one of my favourites. :)
  • eddychaputeddychaput Montreal, Canada
    Posts: 364
    SirHilaryBray wrote: »
    Think everyone should wait and hear the record first and then post a score out of 10. The lyrics may have taken 20 minutes, The music around it could be phenomenal for all we know. Elton John wrote your song on a train in 20 minutes, its one of his most successful records.

    Thank you.

    I am so fed up with people losing their shit based on what they think a song/film/tvshow/video game/'insert product of choice' is going to be before actually seeing or hearing it. I understand the notion that we can only base ourselves on what we know of the artist, but just wait a couple weeks before it's released. And if you still don't like it after listening to the tune, then fine, go ape shit.

  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited September 2015 Posts: 23,883
    I think this will depend also on the music that accompanies it. I found SF to be somewhat sparse in this regard, but Adele's voice and delivery carried it.

    I personally like TLD, but not so much because of AHA (anyone could have really sung that song), but because of Barry's music behind it.

    So if they have a really good hook with some serious Bondian smooth flair (rather than the cringeworthy eardrum scratching/scraping on AWTD) then I think this can elevate an ordinary (but certainly not a sub-par) vocal imho.
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