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I guess I fail to see the point of his character at all then. I'm not a Spectre hater (nor lover either - I think it's a solid middle 007 film) But Denbeigh was one of the worst aspects of Spectre (along with the limp third act).
On trailers - I never saw the final trailer (the third one I believe) until after I had seen the film. Modern trailers are a blight on cinema. I watched the teaser and the second one. And I refuse to go frame by frame through a trailer to eek out spoilers. That seems self-defeating. And that would have been the only way I would have seen the brief flash of M vs Denbeigh (where I believe you can't really see Denbeigh's face?)
There is nothing wrong with him being SPECTRE but it shouldn't have been obvious to Mallory he was an enemy from the beginning, he didn't trust him from the get go.
Fair enough to the audience to be on it but having Mallory taken in by Denbigh, I have a proposal that the character could have been around Mallory's age and possibly an old friend from his past making being taken by Denbigh that more believable.
Mallory is new to the job and not experienced like Dench's M, they could have used this as a learning curve for him and had Bond save the day and establish their relationship. Both men would realise the value of each other and going forward we could have a relationship like Bernard Lee had with Connery, Lazenby & Moore.
Of course it's not a joke. And you didn't make a single substantive critique of Denbigh or Scott. All attitude, no substance.
I suspect foreknowledge of Denbigh's treason was based more on viewing trailers than anything about the character itself. That said, Scott was delightfully odious in the role, so much so that the viewer takes an instant dislike to Denbigh. But plenty of unlikable characters in films are not true villains.
My favorite Denbigh line: "Take a look at the world… chaos… because people like you, paper-pushers and politicians, are too spineless to do what needs to be done so I made an alliance to place the power where it should be. And now you want to throw it away for the sake of democracy, whatever the hell that is."
Excellent delivery here. Especially the concluding sentence.
Well now! Ahem...
:-S
Take no notice mate. The guy has been banned but not before creating a thread called 'Top 5 C**ts on the Forum'!!
Tragically said thread was deleted before I got to see so I'm itching to know who made the C**tdown!
I trust like myself, you also have aspirations of topping the list?!?
I think it's about time the other three came clean. If PK is indeed included we are in esteemed company. I may even retire.
My critique was there was no substance to his performance it was all shallow and no depth, to say he was one of the best Bond villains is ridiculous.
Nothing new just a plain vanilla villain, same old corrupt beuracrat who was obvious to both Mallory and the audience was up to no good.
Not all Scott's fault P&W definitely take most of the blame but he just slummed it through the part and offered nothing that exciting at all.
As for being better than Waltz that isn't really hard Christoph slept his way through his role in the film.
I hope I was at least in the top 5 myself.
Who said he is one of the best Bond villains?
As to his performance being shallow, well that's a pretty threadbare critique. What, exactly do you mean by shallow? Can you provide examples? How could his acting have been deeper?
AFAIC, Scott was bang-on in portraying a credentialed weasel with awesome power at his fingertips and a sinister pensee arriere. As he lied to M about the entire 9 Eyes project, there was a shiftiness behind Denbigh's eyes that suggested dirty work afoot. As if Denbigh was a good but not quite good enough liar.
Had his role not been spoiled by the trailers, I daresay the character would be receiving considerably more praise than opprobrium.
I shouldn't be surprised if the ruddy list was created in my honor...
C*nt Island is very nice in wintertime. And the local maidens make a very fine coconut cream pie.
To be fair Andrew Scott has a tendency to play pantomime villain. He somewhat restrained himself as Denbigh but he was barely hiding his villainy. That's why I think they didn't bother hiding it in the trailer: it was obvious enough.
But yes he plays convincingly the backstabbing power hungry civil servant. And your comment makes me appreciate the character more.
As I said his obvious intentions to Mallory were in the first scene they shared together, to have kept it more ambiguios and had Mallory fooled would have been much better.
Also a lost opportunity to have Guy Haines return considering everything was linked with SP, also his high position, are we to presume he just disappeared without a trace considering he was one of the Prime Ministers closest advisors?
I would suggest that investigation into Quantum was suppressed by higher ranking members wanting to keep the organisation concealed. I've used this for the basis for my rewrite of SPECTRE as well as having Mr White figure from the start and his ghost hang over the film after his exit.
I know some didn't like the retcon and linking it all together but for me I had no problem with this it was just the hamfisted and half assed fashion it was done.
Maybe Scott played the role he was written but that doesn't stop me disliking it, some have said that they think Craig is terrible as Bond, although he plays his version of the character so well but still doesn't stop those that hate this version of Bond spouting on about it.
So me saying that Scott wasn't very good is small fry, especially when I'm not on my own by a long shot in my criticism.
He was one note and there was nothing that we hadn't seen before, it was like a more restrained version of his Moriarty, I'm no massive Holmes fan I just enjoy Sherlock and his Moriarty was not a problem for me like some but it does start to grate after a while and seeing a more diluted version in another project doesn't help matters
Scott is actually much better when he's not playing a villain and just some normal person, his performance in Pride was so much better than both Sherlock & SPECTRE.
Interesting consideing that Waltz played Inglourious Basterds Hans Landa dialed down to 3 when offered to give us Bond's most famous nemesis.
Hans seeped charisma and menace, his ESB was as intimidating as Tanner.
I'm not suggesting he was the Denbigh role, I would have cast an older more the same age as Mallory and also made him somone from his past so Mallory had a familiarity to this Denbeigh and Haines would have appeared later in the story.
Anything is better than scanning a ring to link everything, along with the ESB foster brother nonsense it was up there with the worst crimes of of the series period.
They have huts on the beach and good drinking competitions with scorpions on their hands.
especially in the throat...
I guess that he disagreed with something that ate him
His casting was so pointlessly dull and uninspired. There are no small parts, just small actors, and despite his clear talent, Scott was lost in this film.
They could have hired someone a little more inspired. I mean, having teh villain from Sherlock turn into a villain in a Bond film is obvious casting 101.
I understand the thinking behind the character - he is supposed to be the young face of modern espionage. A stark contrast to the hollowed-out old tomb of Mi6 sitting in his glistening new castle.
But surely there was someone else who could have played this role?
David Oyelowo would have been terrific
Even Tom Hiddleston could have been quite interesting
Even a butch Henry Cavill sort might have been a little more interesting.
Think Tom Hiddlestone would have been great.
And I thought his death was sooo lame; c'mon Mendes, man the hell up:
An embarrassing wrestling match? A gunshot? A spray of glass?
No! Mallory should have had a scene where he and Bond are closely aligned. He should have struck evil down right where he stood, coldly and objectively. After all, this was Mallory's training.