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The David Arnold Appreciation Thread.

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  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited June 2017 Posts: 23,883
    Murdock wrote: »
    What if the new blood sucks as bad as Newman?
    It's a chance I'm willing to take. It's the only way we get better. Constant recreation and innovation. Craig for instance, despite Brozza being serviceable and being at his best on his last outing.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Here's hoping.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited June 2017 Posts: 23,883
    Murdock wrote: »
    Here's hoping.
    I'll admit there's a risk. I would have more confidence if EON hadn't greenlighted the rehash that Newman came up with for SP, but hopefully they will realize that they have to up their game with the next one.

    It's troubling to hear the amazing (and soon to be iconic imho) main theme in the Kingsman 2 trailer and realize that Jackman created all that in 2015 as well.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    I've been listening to some of Arnold's work on Sherlock, These are some pretty nice tracks that could have fit in perfectly in Skyfall and Spectre.




    (This one starts a bit slow but it sounds a lot like Tomorrow Never Dies towards the end.)





  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    edited June 2017 Posts: 8,217
    SaintMark wrote: »
    I greatly appreciate a longer vacation for Mr Arnold away from the franchise, there is no such thing as too short in this particular instance.
    bondjames wrote: »
    SaintMark wrote: »
    I greatly appreciate a longer vacation for Mr Arnold away from the franchise, there is no such thing as too short in this particular instance.
    Better make that two. I'd be open to a permanent holiday.

    He's had his five. Time for some new blood.

    You're both in the wrong thread, I think ;)
    Some_Kind_Of_Hero wrote: »
    Then there's the oft overlooked "Submarine," which upon close listen contains a lot of great work and which never fails.

    "Submarine" works very hard to inject excitement into what is otherwise a pretty dull climax.
  • RobertsonRobertson
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    David Arnold's scores were better than Thomas Newman's lousy "music".
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Robertson wrote: »
    David Arnold's scores were better than Thomas Newman's lousy "music".

    Here Here! :-bd
  • petergreenhill5petergreenhill5
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    We certainly don't need any more David Arnold Bond scores. Five is more than enough.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    Been listening to the CR soundtrack in the car going to work, and its so good!

    Great action cues and that gorgeous track, 'City of Lovers' that could have come from John Barry himself.

    Forgot how good the music is for that moment Bond chases after Vesper when he realises he's been duped, which is titled, 'The Switch'

    Another nice track is the brief but lovely, 'Solange'
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    LeonardPine wrote: »
    Been listening to the CR soundtrack in the car going to work, and its so good!

    Great action cues and that gorgeous track, 'City of Lovers' that could have come from John Barry himself.

    Forgot how good the music is for that moment Bond chases after Vesper when he realises he's been duped, which is titled, 'The Switch'

    Another nice track is the brief but lovely, 'Solange'

    Agreed on all points. 'African Rundown' is exceptional too.
  • patbpatb
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    "could have come from John Barry himself"

    I think thats the key issue. Some fans think that thats a compliment and some a criticism as its too much like Barry. Arnold will never be able to win over all of the fans. Having said that, if a new composer ignores the Barry legacy, many fans will want Arnold back.

    Barry was an amazing talant but, as a fan base, I think we have to let him go at some point. We can't be listening to new "Barryesque" soundtracks in 20 years....or can we?
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    LeonardPine wrote: »
    Been listening to the CR soundtrack in the car going to work, and its so good!

    Great action cues and that gorgeous track, 'City of Lovers' that could have come from John Barry himself.

    Forgot how good the music is for that moment Bond chases after Vesper when he realises he's been duped, which is titled, 'The Switch'

    Another nice track is the brief but lovely, 'Solange'

    Agreed on all points. 'African Rundown' is exceptional too.

    Goes without saying. 'African Rundown' is one of Arnold's all time best action cues.

    I think his scores are respectfully similar to Barry's style but with his own distinctive way of composing. I think all his Bond scores have been tremendous.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    LeonardPine wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    LeonardPine wrote: »
    Been listening to the CR soundtrack in the car going to work, and its so good!

    Great action cues and that gorgeous track, 'City of Lovers' that could have come from John Barry himself.

    Forgot how good the music is for that moment Bond chases after Vesper when he realises he's been duped, which is titled, 'The Switch'

    Another nice track is the brief but lovely, 'Solange'

    Agreed on all points. 'African Rundown' is exceptional too.

    Goes without saying. 'African Rundown' is one of Arnold's all time best action cues.

    I think his scores are respectfully similar to Barry's style but with his own distinctive way of composing. I think all his Bond scores have been tremendous.
    Amen!
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent
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    Personally I have nothing against Arnold or Newman to be honest. Overall I am just looking forward to a new James Bond movie!
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    I recently found the extended DAD soundtrack on youtube. When watching the film recently I realised there was a huge chunk of the score missing from the generic Soundtrack.

    Glad the rest of the score is available as it's a cracking soundtrack.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    edited August 2017 Posts: 10,591
    LeonardPine wrote: »
    I recently found the extended DAD soundtrack on youtube. When watching the film recently I realised there was a huge chunk of the score missing from the generic Soundtrack.

    Glad the rest of the score is available as it's a cracking soundtrack.
    It features some of his best work, and is hugely overlooked on sites like these given the film it accompanies.
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    jake24 wrote: »
    LeonardPine wrote: »
    I recently found the extended DAD soundtrack on youtube. When watching the film recently I realised there was a huge chunk of the score missing from the generic Soundtrack.

    Glad the rest of the score is available as it's a cracking soundtrack.
    It features some of his best work, and is hugely overlooked on sites like these given the film it accompanies.

    All very true. Just love the music when Zao escapes from the Clinic in the Helicopter!

    As usual Arnold's action cues in this are second to none.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    jake24 wrote: »
    LeonardPine wrote: »
    I recently found the extended DAD soundtrack on youtube. When watching the film recently I realised there was a huge chunk of the score missing from the generic Soundtrack.

    Glad the rest of the score is available as it's a cracking soundtrack.
    It features some of his best work, and is hugely overlooked on sites like these given the film it accompanies.

    Agreed. Very good score on the whole - the drum and bass stuff is grating at points but overall it's a fun listen. Deserved a far better film to accompany it.
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
    edited August 2017 Posts: 4,002
    patb wrote: »
    "could have come from John Barry himself"

    I think thats the key issue. Some fans think that thats a compliment and some a criticism as its too much like Barry. Arnold will never be able to win over all of the fans. Having said that, if a new composer ignores the Barry legacy, many fans will want Arnold back.

    Barry was an amazing talant but, as a fan base, I think we have to let him go at some point. We can't be listening to new "Barryesque" soundtracks in 20 years....or can we?

    I think the 'Barry' sound is synonymous with the Bond films and it works.

    Arnold said at the time he was going to produce the TND score from a fans point of view and emulate Barry's sound (Just like Michael Giacchino did with The Incredibles)

    I think Arnold's scores are second only to Barry and work very well with their respective films. It was thrilling hearing Arnold's Barryesque score when seeing TND for the first time.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Glad to see this thread getting more attention. Arnold is a fantastic Bond composer. :-bd
  • RC7RC7
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    I think the opening sequence of TND is one the very best in the series and a lot of this can be put down to Arnold's score. 'White Knight' is a rip-roaring accompaniment to what is a wonderfully paced intro. I actually think it does cross-cutting in a more effective way than SF's PTS. The whole thing is a stellar opening for a Bond film. Big, brash and brilliant.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Murdock wrote: »
    I've been listening to some of Arnold's work on Sherlock, These are some pretty nice tracks that could have fit in perfectly in Skyfall and Spectre.




    (This one starts a bit slow but it sounds a lot like Tomorrow Never Dies towards the end.)




    @Murdock Lovely stuff, I had never listened to Arnold's Sherlock stuff before.

    Btw, from 4:35 to 4:55 in second track you posted, it sounds unmistakably like a powerful rendition of "Vesper". I can totally see something similar feature in Craig's swan song.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    @jake24, It also sounds a lot like the Bond and Paris theme from TND. :D
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Murdock wrote: »
    @jake24, It also sounds a lot like the Bond and Paris theme from TND. :D
    They're similar, but this almost seems directly recycled.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    jake24 wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    @jake24, It also sounds a lot like the Bond and Paris theme from TND. :D
    They're similar, but this almost seems directly recycled.

    True, Since it wasn't a Bond film he probably thought no one would notice. :))
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Murdock wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    @jake24, It also sounds a lot like the Bond and Paris theme from TND. :D
    They're similar, but this almost seems directly recycled.

    True, Since it wasn't a Bond film he probably thought no one would notice. :))
    I can totally see it fitting into "The bitch is dead" scene in CR.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Agreed. I can see that as well. :)
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Just put this here -

  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    I love that track. It's one of my favorite establishing shot cues.
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