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That's just a fan-made summary of the 9-page shooting outline.
I agree that Bond without M, Q, & MP is an interesting concept for B25. Shades of LTK?...
Or (and this is a crazy idea), what if they've already planned to do something completely unusual with Craig? One last movie with him, which is a not even a "Bond film" but more like a "film featuring Bond"? Perhaps a romantic drama with Bond and Madeleine? :) I'm sure most fans would not be ready for something that radical...
Comments in the spoiler tag.
That is ridiculous and you know it will never happen.
Craig will definitely be back that I am certain of but characters like Q and MP who have been strategically just been reintroduced and a new M in the guise of Fiennes who has spent his first entire movie as M fighting for his job and MI6 isn't suddenly going to be omitted; especially for the sake of experimentation.
However, one never knows.....if she is impressive in the role, and if the public takes to her, they could bring her back for a brief bit in B25, since she seems to know about SP operations.
Perhaps SPECTRE kills her somewhere in B25 for her loose lips.
There appears to be a lot of open items in SP: Blofeld, your namesake, Lucia.......they have a lot of options and potential avenues to go down with B25, which is probably what they want.
Some have been bad enough with Craig's era if you go down that route we'll be shaving off paying customers in no time. I've heard this I'm not bothered about box office talk before but it only takes a few entries to seriously under perform because a few fan boys got their wet dreams and EON productions would be in serious problems, this is not the 60's or the 70's anymore.
Forget radical things like this, they shook up the series enough with the reboot, EON productions is not your bitch.
Creeps me out a bit, but its really not a whole lot different that the device under the skin, that we saw in CR.
I do hope they dispense with this idea in the next film.
This notion of tracking Bond via tech goes back to GF really, with M, as well as Leiter and his CIA partner, tracking Bond to the USA, and monitoring his activities at the GF ranch.
Here's my Spectre Bond girl review, based on the sketchy info that we have, or think we have.
There appear to be 4 Bond girls, none of which end up dead, and none of which are overtly villianous. Bellucci may be mild femme fatale, but not an enemy.
Seydoux as Madeleine Swann. Daughter of Mr. White. Seems to be drawn into the adventure, because White needs Bond to protect her.
Working at the mountain clinic. I think she is a shrink of some sort.
We'll probably get her doing some impromptu unsolicited analysis of Bond.
Mild worry here that Bond might dwell on this, and we get another sidebar into the Bond psyche, which honestly and truly does not interest me.
For me, Bond is blunt instrument in service of Queen and Country.
He's a top notch "problem eliminator" and destroyer of villainy, who lives large and enjoys being a wine and food snob etc.
The man is comfortable in his skin and is best portrayed that way, IMO.
Anyway, Swann's character does seem to have potential to be one of the series more memorable Bond girls.
I am very much looking forward to the dinner with Oberhauser, which does appear to be a direct lift from Dr.No.
....and as a sidebar I do love what Mendes is doing with homages.
He is referencing many classic Bond-film scenarios, but not in a cheesy way (DB5 aside). Rather he is re-envisioning these scenarios and adapting them into a fresh adventure.
eg. Bond and MP at Bond's flat (LALD). The clinic in the mountains, with cable car (OHMSS), dinner at the villain's lair, with girl and villain, complete with clothes laid out, (DN).
This is a different approach than the numerous, quicky, 40th anniversary nods we saw in DAD, such as Bond sneaking a grape etc.
Mendes rather, is re-visiting full scenarios.
Swann it seems, will get to Bond on some emotional level.
Again, I do hope this angle isn't overplayed, but I am not too worried. Bond does seem to be on mission here, not overblown personal journey, rife with trust issues, growing pains etc.
He rides off with Swann in the DB5 (groan). We have a ligther ending than we are used to from the Craig era.
Going forward, there is no reason for Bond not to find his way back to Mi6, which it seems, has survived the threat from Spectre and its minion C.
Also, there is no reason that Swann needs to stick around beyond this film either. Bond girls have never carried over (Sylvia Trench aside).
Bond is romantic nomad. Fresh girl for each adventure, which makes sense, as why would they stick around for more danger, unless they are action-girls like Jinx or Wai Lin.
Bellucci as Lucia.
Love this character as written. Reminds somewhat of Solange in CR. Even Felicca in TSWLM.
An exotic beauty, married to real bad apple. There is nothing to suggest she gets killed.
Rather, Bond works his charms on her, to advance his understanding of Spectre, and moves on. This is solid Bond-on-mission stuff.
Bellucci I am sure will look stunning.
Re dead Bond girls, I think the producers might be sensitive to this angle being overplayed, with its having been done to "death," in the last three films. Time for a break, thank you.
Estrella.
This girl is a welcome addition. Bond is again working with gorgeous agent-partner in the pts.
Estrella, Mexica agent (and I am really looking forward to catching the name of this actress at some point, and getting some pictures up in the Bond-girl thread, so she might take her rightful place in the Bond-girl pantheon) seems to be cast in the Tina Hudson as Bianca role in the OP pts, or going back, Mitsouko as Madame LaPorte in TB pts.
We see her accompanying Bond during the Day of the Dead festival goings-on, as Bond is "clocking" his target.
They go to a hotel room, remove their carnival masks. Bond goes out window on mission. She stays behind, looking after their base. Bond completes mission. She asks if he's coming back. Romantic liason implied, much like TB and OP. Very Bondian.
I am sure she will be a stunning Mexican actress.
Then we have the Madeleine Smith as Miss Caruso role from LALD, being reprised by still to be revealed. All we know is that there is a girl in Bond's flat, scampering about flashing legs, when MP comes to visit, and safe to say, she is not the cleaning woman.
Nice touch here. Bond likes his female companions, even when not quite on mission, or maybe its Estrella again, but I doubt it; he probably kissed her off in Mexico.
Too bad we don't have more than just the shooting outline to kick around, but what we do have, does look promising on the Bond-girl front.
Might be some others in the film, with a line or two, or even a scene.
Plenty of memorable Bond-girls never had a stitch of dialogue.
Madeleine Swann will be (in my opinion) by far the best new character of the movie and it's nice to see Bond falling in love again. I'm hoping the last minute rewrites really fleshed out her character. Bond 25 with Craig playing Bond but without Madeleine Swann would make no sense, since one of the main themes of Spectre is Bond "getting a life". The ending of the film is clearly the ending Bond didn't get at the end of OHMSS.
French director Christopher Gans has had the pleasure of directing both Monica Bellucci (Brotherhood of the Wolf) and Léa Seydoux (Beauty and the Beast). He says that they are opposites like fire and ice. That both are sex symbols and are real actresses. Praise indeed :) Question is: who is fire and who is ice? :P
Google translated article and original French article
Lucia in Rome is an interesting character, too bad Bellucci will have only about 10 minutes in the movie. THis is a mistery to me. I have not read the script just the outline and i still dont undertstand her role (apart from being wife to a SPECTRE guy and giving Bond the pasword to the party. It seems that she will have a very short screen time >:P
Madeleine Swann will be (in my opinion) by far the best new character of the movie and it's nice to see Bond falling in love again. I'm hoping the last minute rewrites really fleshed out her character. Bond 25 with Craig playing Bond but without Madeleine Swann would make no sense, since one of the main themes of Spectre is Bond "getting a life". The ending of the film is clearly the ending Bond didn't get at the end of OHMSS. Agree 100%
Well, it played a far larger role in the earlier script :
It was even at the core of a huge plothole IMO.
And now it's just been used to show
I guess the PTS will be relatively short but then Rome, Austria and Morocco and the London climax... They are all import elements for the movie to work well. None can be underestimated.
..this has to be probably the longest Bond film ever, which is fine by me. Although i liked (a lot!) QoS one of the critics i agreed with is the "to fast" pace and weak character and plot development.
There are so much poteniclly go/epic moments in this film that would fit in two..
In the shooting outline, I don't think Oberhauser's real name is revealed until the very end, when he is down and out. Without access to dialogue, its hard to piece a lot of this together
Re Swann returning in B25, I don't envison any scenario, where she can return. She is the Bond girl of this adventure, dragged into the action, because she is White's daughter.
But after she and Bond ride into the sunset in the DB5, and Bond does get his OHMSS happy ending this time, that's got to be it.
Bond may really like her and all, but he is motivated by duty. There is no room for serious love interest, unless he quits job, which he was prepared to do for Vesper, although I am not sure he quit job for Tracy.
But anyway, a serious love interest for Bond does not fit. Fleming killed-off both Vesper and Tracy, by design, and the films have done the same thing.
Swann will have to move on, like all the others.
The whole third act is very, very different from the versions before the last one leaked. It's a totally different story.
One of the most spectacular side effect of the change is that :
Thanks.
Don't worry, it won't be anywhere near as bad as TND, TWINE, DAD or QOS. Expect something like GE but more dramatic and nostalgic.
I haven't read the script mind you. Just read the controversial ideas that people have been getting mad over. And none of it sounds anything like GoldenEye.
...and if you found TND, TWINE and QOS servicable, then you will LOVE this one. :)
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