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Do you remember off hand what scenes his name is revealed? I clearly missed it through the first read.
I can't remember. Wasn't it different in both drafts? I can't remember whether it was the dinner scene with Oberhauser, Bond and Madeleine or just after the finale, when they're on the bridge.
Hmm
Oberhauser already knows this, but is pissed that Bond knows this too.
Thus we have a Blofeld origins film. Bond outs him.
I've read the October version of the script and love the Spectre meeting in Rome, especially how Oberhauser spills the bag of eyeballs onto the table. I haven't seen the December script so can anyone tell me if this part changed. All I know is that they don't wear the masks anymore - is anything else altered?
Thanks
Yes. Jasper Christiansen confirned in an interview that his scene was altered a bit.
She's a cameo pretty much. She is neither good or bad, really, in that she doesn't do anything good or bad in the film depending on your perspective. She tips Bond off, but she may have also tipped Spectre off that he's coming. As a widow of a Spectre operative she is essentially resigned to being knocked off by Spectre(due to her knowledge) after her hubby dies so she's not quite a damsel in distress but not exactly proactive either.
Who, Blofeld? Swann tells Bond and Q in the hotel in Austria what his real name is, although on script it still says Oberhauser. Later in Morrocco after they've played the card game and Swann is about to be killed, Bond reveals his name is Serban. I'm quite sure both names will be 'Blofeld' in the final movie.
I agree with your comments about Bond's sarcasm. Perhaps Craig's delivery of some of the lines will soften the sarcasm. I didn't mind it, though. I tend to think Purvis and Wade see Bond's use of sarcasm as some sort of emotional defence. He hides behind it to stop him getting hurt?
I didn't like the plane chase - Bond in pursuit of Hinx and his men - and that being intercut with Q in the cable car. The cable car scene didn't seem to go anywhere - the man watching Q - who was he? Perhaps I need to read that scene again. I just wonder if the plane scene needs to be intercut with Q on his laptop. Perhaps the cable car scene could involve the man attacking Q, some brief fight scene just to mirror the violence in the plane scene.
Q's life in mortal danger could add a small extra element to the excitement of SPECTRE. As he is in the field he could face physical violence?
I think there will be some classic Bond scenes/moments. Some parts do hark back to the Cubby Broccoli era of Bond. I'll need to give it another read to see if I think the story all holds together. Much of the storyline has little of Oberhauser - which may or may not be a good thing. Dr. No didn't feature any of the character of Dr. No until the third act - SPECTRE mirrors that. I thought Bond's encounter with Oberhauser was very Dr. No in feel.
I don't know if fans and the general public will buy into Oberhauser's backstory or feel it's that significant to Bond. Bond more or less shrugs off any past knowledge of Oberhauser. He's just another madman, to Bond. Bond doesn't appear to be that interested in Oberhauser's past. Craig's Bond doesn't get all emotional at the end - which is a route they could have gone.
@JCRendle I was just going to write the same thing! :) :)
Yes, changed a lot. The eyeballs have disappeared, and now this scene is closer to the SPECTRE meeting in TB. The Mickey Mouse line is still in the script though. This one does not translate well at all :)
Because originally Q get caught by SPECTRE, but the set of the furnace where Bond finds Q won't be built, so Q is not a prisoner any more and now escapes the bad guys. It's good news though because frankly all this furnace scene would have been IMO a plothole or an Austin Powers moment for the audience once again.
Madeleine serves twice as a "XXXX. Its name is XXXX" character in the movie, but on different circumstances. Somehow you wonder if the second time it means she knew it from the start or not ??
No because she was there when Bond dropped the bomb on Oberhauser that his real name is ESB?
PS : Ah.. I wish we could say Mickey Mouse appears in SPECTRE in the "Disney April Fool" thread :)
They would take it as another April fools joke.
I would agree that as written in the script it was clunky and awkward, however I wouldn't mind seeing them reuse the idea of the "solar" furnace at some point. It could make a classic yet contemporary deathtrap type scene it they make it work properly. And I'm talking about them using the idea of an actual solar furnace, not the oversized "solar cooker" in the script. A real Solar Furnace would fry Bond dead in seconds, not hours.
I know why they use it etc, but it was too heavy handed here methinks. Literally anything anyone says is followed by some sarcy comment by Bond. Made him look a bit petty and borish. Connery's era had the best use of sarcasm and wit imo. Craig can pull it off, with better writing of course. I think SF handled this aspect of Bond very well and far better than Logan has.
At first I was thinking how they can have a villain only really fully appear toward the very end, but I can't see how he would fit elsewhere. It sort of makes sense to hold back, having Ober-Feld be the threat in the shadows. It'll of course be totally different on screen than how we may imagine it. I'm sure Mendes will do it justice.
I only ask this cause I swear it'd been a while since either them had seen each other?
White is located in a remote, safe house in Austria. White's accent indicates he is from that area of Europe so perhaps he's Austrian. And it's not such a leap of story logic to assume his daughter lives or works close by. Having said that, I assume Léa Seydoux won't be playing Madeleine Swann with an Austrian type accent. When I read the screenplay I assumed (incorrectly?) she had a British accent.
I would actually love that. Here's video of them filming in a remote location. Since there are no stunt actors fighting on the side, it looks to me like they're practicing a stunt landing.
Yup, it's white.