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BTW, what do you mean with "as TND was going to be"? Do you mean B18?
99.9 % of the audience!? The Fleming books have been read by millions the world over.
Furthermore, Bond fans know effortlessly that Shattherhand is Blofelds alias from Fleming's YOLT.
And those that don't know will be dutifully informed by the world media who will be
dutifully apprised by the press materials released by Eon.
Just as in 2008, the world very quickly got up to speed with the fact that QoS was a Fleming title.
It's a fallacy to think that Bond fans are divided into hardcore and the general public, and that there is this great divide. Those who shell out money and take time to watch each new Bond as it comes out and have revisited older films via Netflix or whatever are not Bond ignorant. They have a decent knowledge. People only watch so many movies a year.
I found a co-worker humming Underneath The Mango Tree of all things last year. She said she'd been watching some Bond movies on Neflix or whatever, and liked that song.
She is general public and she had seen most if not all of the movies, and had a respectable Bond IQ but you would never catch her on this board or making rankings, nor could she ryhme the titles off in order or tell you how many films Connery had made versus Moore, but she did have a decent Bond knowlege, just as I have a passable knowledge of the Marvel Universe only from watching the movies as member of General Public.
Yet, I don't read the comics, I don't frequent the message boards, BUT I do trust that Marvel is servicing its hardcore fans.
I do trust that Marvel makes effort to work with source material, canon etc and that hardcore Marvel fans are engaged both pro and con via their various platforms and sounding boards. That is just good business. It maintains the integrity of the product and DOES impact broader sales and interest.
We hardcore do not exist in a vacuum.
We are rather the more vocal and more knowledgable extension of the "general public", and we spend more money on the product, and impact word of mouth to a more severe degree. Eon gets its feedback from us.
Any well run business will tell you, that you listen to your customers, especially those that take most interest in your product.
Shatterhand is an impactful title. It does have a unique clout.
It's not the only option obviously, but it does have a unique value, that can be exploited.
===As for looking forward, I think its an idea, maybe even one that is being considered, that SP and possibly the next two films might be riffs on Flemings final three novels, OHMSS, YOLT and TMWTGG.
SP=OHMSS ( the similarities are glaring) B25= YOLT and B26 =TMWTGG, but as with OHMSS, different ,but derivative titles might be used.
Just putting this out there, as we won't be sure until we get some sense of what B25 might be all about.
Also, finally we have seen Waltz (with visible face) on set. Love that they are keeping his scared face at the end of the movie - because of the watch gadget explosion in Morocco, which I loved.
OK, but, how was it going to be anyways? I don't understand.
Spectre
then Shatterhand?
i am all for one word titles of films - but this would be three times in a row, while also having the letter 'S' at the beginning of each word... i don't see it happening... if it's another single word title, i would prefer 'Risico' ... otherwise they can come up with something original if they aren't going to plunder a title from Fleming, Amis, Gardner, Benson or any of the millennial authors.
Can anyone remember if this character was in the script and if so, what happens to him?
Probably, a lot of people have that kind of "Bond culture" in UK, but overseas it is not so common, at least in Spain or Italy, where I have spent the most of my life.
I agree that Risico is a fantastic title and should be used in the future, but I’m digging Shatterhand for #25.
On a side note, I am hoping and praying (okay, not really praying, because that’s a bit silly) that Oberhauser is revealed as Blofeld by the end of this movie. It’s not in the script...
He is though - in the December one anyway...Oberhauser sort of becomes Blofeld, with the scars and all...
Antovolk, I have read the December draft. I know he gets the scars, etc., and there seems little doubt that he is Blofeld. But they never actually say his name, which worries me. I would love for either Bond or Oberhauser to say the name "Blofeld" in the crashed helicopter on Westminster Bridge. In the leaked draft OUTLINE, he does, so I hope they go by that.
I said this before, and it's clear if you read through the meeting with M, Madeleine and Bond at the barracks - instead of Oberhauser or Serban they're supposed to say Blofeld, after he is "revealed" by Bond to be Blofeld during that poker game scene. The way it's in the draft is for security reasons methinks.
I've reread @timmer's scenario's for Bond 25 and possibly beyond, and it is just so bleeping clear to me that this is the obvious plot for Bond 25. EON must be terrified of not equaling SF's BO or at least coming near it, and this scenario, if SP is a decent hit, just so clearly exploits what SP sets up, with the plot practically writing itself. EON must go through hell coming up with new plots for each new Bond as every Spy film these days is stealing endlessly from Bond, and every Spy film story idea has already been done to death. A Bond 25 plot as noted in @timmers post just makes too much sense. I think I may have noted in some other post, that our first real hint, that Bond 25 will indeed follow this scenario will be news that Lea and Waltz are contracted for Bond 25. That would also be the sign that Craig is unquestionably coming back for a 5th Bond.
or the title could be "Stavro" ;)
I think Shatterhand is a great title because it is genuine Fleming, and it has a a very strong, kind of visceral zing to it. It is also 100% relevant to what one hopes is the likely Bond 25 plot.
I thought the change of DOP and the return to film would have meant less CG than in SF, but all this is bad news for me :(
They have Waltz, but will "use" him with CG enhancements for the finale ? I think even those here who love SF would not really consider the CG Bardem moment like a high point of SF.. And now, we'll have probably a CG scar on Waltz for the last scenes. And CG rain.
It means the overall look of the performance is also in the hand of the CG artists while we all know they are under time pressure. And no one right now on the set knows what it will look like on screen. Oh well...
I hope also that when Corbould says there will loads of post, that it doesn't mean we'll have again CG locations. I'm afraid Blofeld's lair may be that...