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  • SkyfallCraigSkyfallCraig Rome, Italy
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    aaron819 wrote: »
    First one is Bond entering/exiting from old MI6 building. Second and third are Q shutting down new C building

    @SkyfallCraig What is that spark of light/fire in the first picture then.
    That's probably one of those lights that are used when works need to be done
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    aaron819 wrote: »
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    First one is Bond entering/exiting from old MI6 building. Second and third are Q shutting down new C building

    @SkyfallCraig What is that spark of light/fire in the first picture then.
    That's probably one of those lights that are used when works need to be done

    Hard to tell but it could even be the helicopter's beam of light. When I watched the filming in Vauxhall last week, the helicopter hovered near the mi6 building and occasionally aimed it's light onto it.
  • aaron819aaron819 Switzerland
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    I think that all the scenes they have filmed match the December script until the London finale.
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
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    aaron819 wrote: »
    First one is Bond entering/exiting from old MI6 building. Second and third are Q shutting down new C building

    @SkyfallCraig What is that spark of light/fire in the first picture then.
    That's probably one of those lights that are used when works need to be done

    agreed... very unlikely it's an explosion, as the light from an explosion would go all over, not focused down into a cone of light.. - and also too small to be the spotlight from a helicopter, besides, the spotlight used on a helicopter is white in color, not yellow - that looks like the glow from a hanging work light
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    Am I the only one that feels like everything happening after Bond kills 'C' feels tagged on?
    Now we know that it isn't the end of Oberhauser since he survives. But what if - after Bond blows up his base in Morocco - the audience instead is left guessing if he survives the blast? Kind of like Blofeld in DAF?
  • It seems that SPECTRE is not going to be DC last Bond film.
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/sorry-damian-lewis-daniel-craig-5943149#ICID=sharebar_twitter
    I would like to hear about dmwalker.
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    wow surprise surprise I am just shocked!
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    it would be so funny if Blofeld doesn't return after all these so called leaks!
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    http://fortune.com/sony-hack-part-1/

    This link is to what may be the first in depth, serious analysis of the Sony hack. It's long and there are 2 more parts coming soon. For those outside the US, Fortune is a serious financial magazine so the info is likely pretty accurate. I will be surprised if parts 2 & 3 don't have some Bond/EON info. After reading this, and given the leaked email references to MGM wanting to ditch Sony, I will be amazed if Sony can keep Bond.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Thanks for posting @smitty. Fascinating read. What a total mess...

    If I was Pascal, I would have made a strong push to get SP out in 2014 rather than pissing about with that North Korean mess of a movie. If they had done that, I'm sure their profits would have been better, we would have all have been happier as fans, and we would be discussing B25 now instead of still waiting around for SP.

    Additionally, any idiot could have told them that the Amazing Spiderman reboot was garbage. One of the most tragic reboots in history. It's apparent to me that Pascal has lost her touch.

    Anyway, very interesting to read about the politics that go on at large organizations. I look forward to reading parts 2 & 3.
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    That's exactly what I thought while reading it too @bondjames, what an incredible mess. Sony Japan has to clean house. Lynton has to go too. What a series of really bad top management decision making about their IT cost cutting, letting that idiotic Interview film go forward, and for us Bond fans, not insisting that SP open in 2014 instead of this awfully competitive year. We would not have all this speculation now about Craig for Bond 25, it would be in the final script/casting stages, they likely would have had a strong new director for 24 and 25, and Sony might have held on to Bond. Parts 2 and 3 will probably be explosive. I hope there is nothing damaging to Bond in it. Bond was bloodied enough with those damn leaks.
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    smitty wrote: »
    That's exactly what I thought while reading it too @bondjames, what an incredible mess. Sony Japan has to clean house. Lynton has to go too. What a series of really bad top management decision making about their IT cost cutting, letting that idiotic Interview film go forward, and for us Bond fans, not insisting that SP open in 2014 instead of this awfully competitive year. We would not have all this speculation now about Craig for Bond 25, it would be in the final script/casting stages, they likely would have had a strong new director for 24 and 25, and Sony might have held on to Bond. Parts 2 and 3 will probably be explosive. I hope there is nothing damaging to Bond in it. Bond was bloodied enough with those damn leaks.

    Eon must have sold its soul to the devil for Casino Royale's rights, because shortly after there was the Pinewood fire (version 2.0), the Quantum writing strike, the MGM bankruptcy, Logan going way off key and having to release him, and now on to the leaks. Casino Royale was totally worth it, though.
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
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    It seems that SPECTRE is not going to be DC last Bond film.
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/sorry-damian-lewis-daniel-craig-5943149#ICID=sharebar_twitter
    I would like to hear about dmwalker.

    no offense to you when i say this, so please don't take it as such...

    but anyone with a sizable amount of commonsense and rational thinking could've told you this the day the first rumor broke...

    people are so quick to eat up and believe any gossip they hear, and then pass it along - simply so they can be "the guy in the know" ....

    hilarious... really it is.
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
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    smitty wrote: »
    http://fortune.com/sony-hack-part-1/

    This link is to what may be the first in depth, serious analysis of the Sony hack. It's long and there are 2 more parts coming soon. For those outside the US, Fortune is a serious financial magazine so the info is likely pretty accurate. I will be surprised if parts 2 & 3 don't have some Bond/EON info. After reading this, and given the leaked email references to MGM wanting to ditch Sony, I will be amazed if Sony can keep Bond.

    if there is one thing i have learned about Sony since they screwed up the Spider-man franchise, they have a bunch of idiots in suits that love to overstep their bounds, and they love to try to interject themselves into decision making that they should not be a part of.... Sony worked so far as a distributor for Bond - but with the stupid emails from Sony offices and execs about the script, and money issues, i don't think EON or MGM would want to go back to Sony to renegotiate a new distribution deal - on top of that, add into the mix the fiscal despair they are in (which, no wonder they wanted cutbacks on the Bond film)........... I think Bond might have been saved by the grace of god that this was their last partnership with them... No wonder Marvel wants the rights to Spider-man back in the worst way.. Sony Pictures is a sinking ship.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Totally with you on that @haserot.
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    HASEROT wrote: »
    It seems that SPECTRE is not going to be DC last Bond film.
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/sorry-damian-lewis-daniel-craig-5943149#ICID=sharebar_twitter
    I would like to hear about dmwalker.

    no offense to you when i say this, so please don't take it as such...

    but anyone with a sizable amount of commonsense and rational thinking could've told you this the day the first rumor broke...

    people are so quick to eat up and believe any gossip they hear, and then pass it along - simply so they can be "the guy in the know" ....

    hilarious... really it is.

    No offense to you, but the guy calling everyone else dumb never looks that smart.

    I think the whole Craig leaving thing is like this:

    Those who want Craig gone wanted to believe it.
    Those who don't want Craig gone refused to believe it.
    Then there's those (like me) who reasoned against it but didn't proclaim either way
    And those who reasoned for it but didn't claim either way.

    I don't think any of those people lack commonsense, we just all simply filter things differently and then come here to discuss it. It's one of the best discussions we've had on these boards in awhile, and it's the closest thing you're going to get to debating a new Bond for a few years.

    It's all harmless, nobody is right or wrong, and we're still relying on tabloids and unnamed sources claiming Craig isn't leaving, so nobody really knows - perhaps not even Craig himself.
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    It seems that SPECTRE is not going to be DC last Bond film.
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/sorry-damian-lewis-daniel-craig-5943149#ICID=sharebar_twitter
    I would like to hear about dmwalker.

    What? Do you seriously believe the Daily Mirror? I'm not saying Craig will definitely leave after Spectre, all I am saying is that it's clear it might happen. When @ColonelSun (who is probably the most trustworthy member of this forum) writes something, you better pay attention to it...

    This is what ColonelSun wrote last week:
    Just to add, I have also heard from one or two associates that this might be Craig's last film. Like many here, I sincerely hope he does decide to stick around for one more - but I suspect the big issue will be who directs Bond 25 - If Mendes wants to do a third film, I think Craig will do it - if not, and with the huge physical demands the role requires and with Craig heading towards 50, he might just bow out.

    Connery started to make noises about leaving the role after TB. Moore talked about quitting after MR. So there is probably talk from Craig about ending now and on a high note.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I'm in agreement with JWESTBROOK on this. No harm in discussing (isn't that what this forum is for?) as long as logic applies and there are no agendas.

    Speaking of logic: Isn't that article questionable when it quotes a Sony spokesman referring to DC fulfilling his contract?. Especially if Sony is out post-SP, then what involvement do they have with B25, unless they are not out after all....
  • Two things:

    --The one memo that came out in the Sony hacking about the cost of SPECTRE was from MGM. Sony was copied on it, that's how it became public. But the memo with suggestions on ways to reduce cost came from MGM. Sony's Pascal replied to it, taking up Eon's and Barbara Broccoli's side.

    --Do we know Logan really went astray? Or was he giving Sam Mendes what he wanted? There was one memo that said Logan *and* Mendes didn't want to submit the March 2014 draft, that they had to be forced into doing so.
  • HASEROT wrote: »
    people are so quick to eat up and believe any gossip they hear, and then pass it along - simply so they can be "the guy in the know" ....

    hilarious... really it is.

    But it seems you trust this journalist who writes only gossip columns ?! :)

    And he starts his column by writing that DC planned to end his Bond saga with SPECTRE. Exactly the "gossip" we're supposed to have laughed at ?!

    It's almost as if the gossip column was written from rumours heard in fan circles, not the other way round !

    Always remember the Lea Seydoux casting rumour "fiasco" before laughing too early !
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    I'm for one that truly doesn't want Craig to leave just yet.

    His not the first to be rumored or to have actually said this will be my last. But c'mon ..it's at the end of a long shoot and one with an injury. I'm probably be contemplating the same choice only to change mind later once rested up and see what's being offered next.

    I do get the feeling that more happened than we know and that Craig maybe siding with Mendes whom I don't expect to return.

    I even got that feeling when Deakins backed out.

    I really want to see Craig do two more films before 2020. I think he will continue to mature nicely both physically and in his characterization. Would like to see his Bond end with just a straight back to basics mission. You know Bond recovering from the Spectre arch and wanting to revigorate his drive a la Fleming character motivation.

    Umm starting rambling a bit ..sorry.
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
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    like Joe Friday - just the facts...

    i believe in facts and evidence, not rumor, speculation or hearsay... i don't care who comes across it or who is the one relaying it - ESPECIALLY on the internet..... that is just the way i am, and i'm not going to apologize for that....

    Craig is signed on through Bond 25 - officially - the only thing(s) claiming anything different is a bunch of gossip and conjecture that could have originated from anywhere..

    i wasn't trying to single anyone out in particular with my comment - if you read carefully, what i said was a generalization, i am not that type of person who is just going to put others down for sake of doing so (most of you know that i am better than that) - but if you took offense to it, then i don't know what to tell you..... i have no problem in the discussion of said matter - i even engaged in it (respectfully too)... it's when people treat rumors as fact, and gossip as truth that rubs me the wrong way - and even then, i wont go as far as degrade someone over it...

    but, if you all think thats the type of person i am, then F it all i guess....
  • edited June 2015 Posts: 4,619
    HASEROT wrote: »
    the only thing(s) claiming anything different is a bunch of gossip and conjecture that could have originated from anywhere..

    Not ColonelSun's comment.
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
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    HASEROT wrote: »
    the only thing(s) claiming anything different is a bunch of gossip and conjecture that could have originated from anywhere..

    Not ColonelSun's comment.

    with all due respect, i'll believe it when i see it - or when it happens..... sorry
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    HASEROT wrote: »
    HASEROT wrote: »
    the only thing(s) claiming anything different is a bunch of gossip and conjecture that could have originated from anywhere..

    Not ColonelSun's comment.

    with all due respect, i'll believe it when i see it - or when it happens..... sorry

    There is no need to apologise... but don't be surprised if they announce Craig's departure in the coming months.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Announcement of departure? Lol I look forward to all the, "I knew SP wouldn't be his last" comments.
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    Jesus f... Christ. This is the SPECTRE leak discussion thread. Not the "let's continue to dicuss whether Craig will continue as Bond or not"-thread.

    It's becoming tiresome that so many threads on this board are filled with off-topic comments, drowning those comments that try to stay on topic!
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    Zekidk wrote: »
    Jesus f... Christ. This is the SPECTRE leak discussion thread. Not the "let's continue to dicuss whether Craig will continue as Bond or not"-thread.

    It's becoming tiresome that so many threads on this board are filled with off-topic comments, drowning those comments that try to stay on topic!

    The leaks provide a unique look at the background on a Bond picture just as rumors crop up of Craig leaving, so naturally one will look to the leaks for possible evidence. Besides, what else should we be discussing in this thread right now? There's no new footage or spy photos to analyze, no new script leaks, no new rumors besides Craig leaving, and essentially no reason NOT to discuss the only rumor we have.
  • ThomasCrown76ThomasCrown76 Augusta, ks
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    I have it on good authority that George lazenby will not be James Bond anymore:) there, a different scoop for you;)
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
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    There is an existing thread to discuss whether Craig will go or stay..and this isn't it. Please stay on topic.
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