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Or at least pick different films...no more DN and GF homages, in particular. And it appears LALD and YOLT are reaching surfeit as well...
They've been abbreviated on many other threads all year. Most people on here are film fans as well as Bond fans, but sorry if it was confusing.
Captain Exaggeration wants his cape back... and his pants.
On the off chance of that, I'll voice my opinion and second (or third, or fourth) this: stop with the personal connections and the vendettas and the revenge plot-lines and the traitors. Just give me a straight-forward, stand-alone mission, please, where Bond ends up in a bed with the girl at the end.
One of the more tragic occurrences in SP was Bond not returning to his Latina squeeze post Helicopter fight. He did promise after all.
I wouldn't mind all those Bond going rogue, traitors and what not if there finally was a straight forward Moneypenny scene / M scene / Q scene sequence at the start. I don't care what comes for the remaing 2 hours or so of the film, but please I want to get that cosy feeling at the start of the film like in the Connery and Moore films. I don't care if Fiennes must show up on location later, just make him give Bond his mission at the start in his office with the thick heavy red door.
Gadgets not founded in reality, ie. invisible car
Bad acting leading ladies (Roberts despite her great looks, Halle, Denise, Hatcher, Bach in particular)
This, too, because when you look at the series as a whole, there are more than plenty times when Q/M/MP shows up in the field to assist Bond to some degree; now, I'm not saying we should go with the Scooby Doo Gang from SP again, but keeping it stand-alone and, as you've said, giving us the proper MP flirting, a segue into meeting M for the mission, and then a segue into meeting Q for the weapons and/or gadgets, will make me a very happy man.
EON are acutely aware of the fan reaction.
As an example, having M appear in the abandoned QE in Hong Kong harbour in TMWTGG showed an interesting MI6 on location HQ, and also helped to direct Bond to next steps. We never saw Lee's M running around with a gun and that was a good thing imho. He was there to direct Bond, not to partake in the action with him, no matter what his backstory may have been. So Bond's effectiveness as an MI6 agent wasn't cheapened, which I felt it was in the recent 'gang' scenarios.
One of the issues I have with SF and SP is the new gang already seem to be over used in two films, because Mendes didn't understand the necessity (at least from my perspective) to play the 'long game' and build up the relationships and dynamics over time.
As far as I'm concerned, as a result of all of the above, I would prefer that the entire Scooby gang be replaced post-Craig, and we get a new team for a new Bond, with a new approach.
Are they? So how come it took them three films to put the GB in the right place when everyone has been screaming for it since 2008?
And I think I remember pretty much all these same comments about wanting M to just give Bond a mission and there be no personal connection after SF and yet we get even more personal and more M involvement.
I think anyone hoping that we'll get a straightforward mission is sadly deluding themselves.
Firstly the very fact that Blofeld will return means it will be personal (unless they just pretend the Oberhauser stuff never happened - theyve airbrushed QOS out of history as best they can so it's possible).
Secondly we are stuck with Judi Dench syndrome with the MI6 regulars. They are going to want more out of Fiennes and Wishaw than a 5 minute scene each at the start of the film.
Thirdly (and most importantly) Babs will move heaven and earth for Mendes to return as with the last 2 Bonds taking $2 billion EON see him as indispensible. And if you think Sam is going to deliver a standard mission with no personal connection you really don't know the man.
Our opinion is entirely incidental to EON. Between us all on here what would our contribution to SP's gross add up to? It wouldn't even dent the take for the London IMAX. And that's one screen.
Sorry folks but it's a numbers game and Sam's way is delivering consistently high box office so they ain't gonna change just because a few of us on here are whining.
Agreed.
Umm...Regarding YOLT its boxoffice was about 2/3rds of what Thunderball made in North America, but overseas it wasn't that much lower than TB.
As TB was, and is today still by far the most successful Bond film in N.America by quite a staggering distance in admissions, it was highly unlikely that YOLT was going to be on that same level.
.......btw MR had a higher N.American and Worldwide boxoffice gross than TSWLM.
all the BO facts of Bond are on the internet. ;)
I realize they've been trying to top themselves of late, but after the over budgeted disaster (Guinness book or not) imho of the Blofeld lair explosion in SP, I'm done with this.
It remains to be seen what message Eon takes from SP, since SF was also a personal mission. Maybe they will go with a dramatic death of one of the major characters, again.
At least they had the decency to weave Vesper's message into the story and not make it a half-hearted attempt at continuity.
That's certainly something they need to steer clear from.
I think it's pretty much a given that the next one will be personal, so once Craig hangs up the tux, I'd put down the "this time...it's personal" plot device as something I don't want to see from the series for a long time once the next Bond makes his debut. At that point, it should be business as usual for a while.