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I realize this is not ideal, and will be more vigilant in looking out for duplicate threads and letting mods know if I catch any before they build up too many comments/history - so that they can either be combined or closed sooner.
But let's talk Bond now. :) A question I've been meaning to drop here is, should the last "Craig era" Bond film necessarily also be the last Craig Bond film, if you catch my drift. CR, QOS, SF and SP have all more or less been playing in the exact same world, which is the total opposite of the more fantasy driven Bonds of old. I'm merely wondering if a fifth Craig Bond could step outside the somewhat moody world of his first four and enter the realm of a slightly more easy going, stand-alone Bond film in the spirit of say TSWLM or TB. :)
That is a good question. I will be watching it later today and will let you know my thoughts then.
What's interesting to read though (when wading through all these spoiler free reviews and critic reviews) is that most seem to say that SP already takes us there. That SP is in fact the 'slightly more easy going' Bond film, although with a convenient retcon and plot linkages that were alluded to in the trailer. That it is actually a fantasy Bond.
So I'm curious to see whether I feel that way, or whether I too think it sits in the CR/QoS/SF realism (an oxymoron as far as Bonds go I know) world.
To answer the question theoretically, I think all Bonds should sign off with a larger than life one. That way, a new guy can come in with a more 'realistic' tone and showcase his acting credentials/establish himself.
In a way, signing off with a larger than life fantastical Bond film paves the way for a successor to be accepted.....going from realistic to fantastical makes sense.....I think only Moore got to do it twice (semi-rebooting with 'realistic' FYEO).
I'll know what I think for sure later today.
For me, not now, so many unanswered questions from Spectre and there has to be more to the story.
Skyfall appeared to be that different film but with SPECTRE we know it was now connected.
The Bond films tend to sway with the going mood of the cinematic landscape. Whereas they perhaps led that landscape in the 1960s, arguably since they've followed on with the general mood created by popular cinema. Hence DC's serious gritty Bond came in a post 9/11 era which gave us the Bourne films and darker Nolan Batman trilogy.
I was quite struck by M:I -Rogue Nation this summer and it's lighter tone to DC's Bonds. Not that Ghost Protocol wasn't. I definitely prefer my Bond dark and gritty, but was actually struck by how refreshing the lighter tone of Rogue Nation felt to me. It made me want the more fantastical, lighter Bond, which maybe was why I enjoyed Spectre so much. So maybe this is the direction the series will take in the near future? Possibly even into the next Bond actor's era.
Some critics unfairly claimed Craig was bored and look done with the series which almost everyone here agree is BS. I don't want this to translate to an actually bored, YOLT/DAF-type performance to give the haters fuel for their fire.
Too many people have latched onto the Sony leaks and 'script problems' and Craig's slit wrists comments and convinced themselves that it's all up there in the finished product on screen.
http://www.jborbisnonsufficit.com/2015/11/17/is-daniel-craig-returning-after-spectre/
spoiler: i think he is returning
He has some great films (CR was voted the Number 1 Bond film during the 2012 worldwide survey)
Do they do another reboot, reset? Get a younger Bond (most definitely) someone in his late thirties and pick up with M, Q, Moneypenny where SP left off?
Thoughts?
I'd say soft reboot it (like GE) with an entire new MI6 team (and make sure they are just good actors and not famous ones.....we don't need any more limelight hoggers).
New M, new Q, new Moneypenny...I rather like the threesome but ..... maybe just keep Waltz's Blofeld as the link.
I like how you think.
I always thought many press types would exploit the leaks to ding the film. A Bond has to be a killer to produce, and the leaks probably made SP 50% harder. Sony is probably the worst managed major, and I'll be stunned if EON and MGM reup with them. They deserve to lose Bond. I think Mendes and Logan have done their thing, and it's time to get a fresh take with another director. Craig should call his buddy Spielberg and get him to direct Craig's last Bond. the buzz would be huge.
You may be right. He's clearly enjoying himself in the role more than ever.
This is the big question for me - after Brosnan it was clear that a new direction was needed, same after Moore in AVTAK. DC's Bond hasn't in my opinion reached a nadir which would result in a change of direction. However my prediction is that they will take a more humourous direction after Craig.
The only thing that could prevent Craig returning is Craig himself. SPECTRE was a hard shoot for him, and he has subtly signalled in the press that the demanding nature of the role may be becoming too much for him to take on as he gets older.
All that said, I think we can confidently expect him to return for a fifth film. My guess is he won't do any more film roles now for the next few years and ready himself for the B25, coming 2018.
I found the humour in SF very weak. SP was a step up IMO. Not great but certainly a lot better. I agree though that some of the understated humour in CR (and QoS) was excellent.