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The role Bardem played in No Country For Old Men was much scarier than Silva.
1 Dench's M was not who she appeared to be and Silva although mad knew the truth and why he wanted to kill her.
2 Link to Bonds Parents and that is why Silva laughed at the gravestone.
3 Dench's M knew of an Illuminati of the Intelligence Community and knew of their plan and that is why she leaves the clue inside the Bulldog
I do agree that also "SPECTRE" will feature a lot of WikiLeaks-esque scandals, like perhaps SPECTRE-agents infiltrating MI-6. But let's face it....this has been done with "QOS" and "SF" now already. Making MI-6 again the main plot theme of a villainous scheme for me sounds a bit boring. Especially if Franz Oberhauser will actually be a copy of Silva, who's also out on a revenge to MI-6, because of personal and historical events (Bond's relationship with the Oberhauser family, M's last secret message).
No, there must be something bigger behind SPECTRE. I just can not believe that the newly revived SPECTRE is solely out on destroying, again, MI-6 (Like QUANTUM and Silva did). Although even QUANTUM used the intelligence community for their own Tierra-project. I think SPECTRE this time will indeed be using and abusing the intelligence community, but solely for their own villainous scheme.
And let's face it....after the list of actors being cast for smaller roles in SP, one could make the case that the revived SPECTRE will indeed be much more powerful and bigger than its predecessor QUANTUM.
Or they pollute a new medicine with an addictive agent that causes instant addiction and aim to make money from the antidote.
Not really, in fact with the Ebola outbreak it is very contemporary.
We are assuming things in here....I guess?
Yes.
I can buy this.
Or "roast beef" (a Saturday Night Live reference)
It's interesting you mention that. It's a very Hitchcock-ian thing, that was also introduced in FRWL. The actual "object" that gets the story going, that is the reason for the good guys and bad guys to go after. A short overview:
--> FRWL: The Lektor Decoding Machine (actually, it is based on the WWII Enigma Machine)
--> GF: Off course.....gold
--> TB: Two MO-S Type Nuclear Bombs
--> OHMSS: The Omega Virus
--> DAF: Off course.....diamonds
--> LALD: Poppy seeds
--> TMWTGG: The Colibri Golden Gun
--> FYEO: The A.T.A.C. System
--> OP: One atomic bomb, but also juwelry
--> AVTAK: A Silicon Integrated Circuit - A Computer Chip
--> TLD: The "SMERSH" warnings / "Smiert Spionnam"
--> GE: The GoldenEye
--> TND: The GPS System, as well as nuclear missiles
--> TWINE: Oil
--> DAD: A lot of stuff :-P
--> CR: Money...because of the stakes at the Poker Table. It's really the one and only Bond film that's truly about....money
--> QOS: Water
--> SF: The stolen Harddrive with lists of secret agents
--> SP: ??
A MacGuffin.
Exactly @RC7 ;-). Thanks m8
Oh and on a side note, I have been right before: the return of S.P.E.C.T.R.E., Madeleine Swann being a nod to Marcel Proust, etc.
You're saying something there: Ebola. Very topical indeed. Like Cyberleaks around 2012 (Julian Assange).
One of the altime great ones is the briefcase in Pulp Fiction. In the end we never know what it contains.
Interesting premise but there is no way that EON would go in this direction; It's to hot of a potato.
Great name for a bar. The MacGuffin of The Maltese Falcon is maybe the greatest. In FRWL they had a great one too.
In the good old days of espionage you could sit on the opposite side of a Beirut bar and send your 'enemy' a drink. Try sitting in the same room as a Jihadi.
Ok, a lot of what you guys said has made a lot of sense, and I think much of it can be true at the same time.
1. It's going to be personal because it's Mendes - Yes. I think Bond's personal feelings are involved - either because the old M had a secret or because his parents died as part of this decade-long story or both.
2. The scheme has to be global and grand. - I'm not sure about biological warfare. The clinic is not a hint to that, but I think a mental hospital where someone locked up a girl who knew too much and tried to warn the world of its impending doom.
3. The terrible truth - I don't think it's just terrible per se, but also terrible from Bond's personal perspective, hence back to 1.
Which brings me to the following scenario:
"A cryptic message from Bond's past" - his "friend" Oberhauser (M is not past enough, and it sounds too vague to be from his parents)
"sends him on a trail" - Oberhauser is playing a game with him; he is the head of SPECTRE or an important member (the head then is someone Bond knows and trusts) and he either simply uses their friendship or he blames James for the death of his father ... (or something equally personal, but this is not necessary)
"to uncover a sinister organisation" - SPECTRE, of which Quantum is the economic arm, hence the name Quantum (lat: how much), and which has people literally everywhere. Maybe even Bond's parents were SPECTRE agents. Imagine the irony - M has them killed and then raises their son as her own instrument. A bit like Alec/006 in Goldeneye.
"While M battles political forces to keep the Secret Service alive" - As I said, they have people literally everywhere, up to the higher echelons of politics.
"Bond peels back the layers of deceit" - sounds like he is going at it alone again, and maybe against the wishes of M, who doesn't want to have to explain a rogue agent investigating politicians (remember the guy in QoS, who was an important politician)
"to reveal the terrible truth behind SPECTRE" - that it is, indeed, everywhere, and that to extinguish it, you'd have to bring down the political systems of the entire world. Even the UK is so strongly in its grip that you'd have to eliminate half the people in power, thus causing chaos. That't the most terrible thing, imo, an enemy that you can't eliminate for fear of eliminating what you love most, and causing millions of deaths. So you let it be and grow, because you would kill the patient trying to cut out the cancer.
Both CR/QoS and SF are tied together by this: Quantum is an under-organisation of SPECTRE. Silva got help from them so he could bring down M, who was becoming a threat - either because she was too close to find the truth or because she was a member of SPECTRE turning against them. The Bonds and Bond's childhood have been set up in SF and can now be explored in more (terrible) detail, peeling back layers of deceit to get at the heart of the matter: the people who Bond works for are responsible for killing his parents, who were friends with the people he is trying to kill.
My only concern is: is this too much GE?
In a bar, that would be challenging indeed. If he is one, he is here to kill you.