The 2015 "Spy Craze" is ON...dear Bond laddies ;-)

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  • RC7RC7
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    Exemplifies how risk averse studios are.
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    RC7 wrote: »
    Exemplifies how risk averse studios are.

    What do you mean exactly?
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    RC7 wrote: »
    Exemplifies how risk averse studios are.

    What do you mean exactly?

    Skyfall is a huge success so every studio wants to pump out a spy movie, now that SF has adequately covered their arses.
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    RC7 wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    Exemplifies how risk averse studios are.

    What do you mean exactly?

    Skyfall is a huge success so every studio wants to pump out a spy movie, now that SF has adequately covered their arses.

    That's true. But partially it's also a bit luck (because of the schedules) that this year has so many spy films :-).

    Did you read this article by the way @RC7? https://hmssweblog.wordpress.com/2015/08/02/the-hunt-for-bond-mi-connections-to-007/

    I'm curious how you will be watching the premiere of "SPECTRE". With your wife? Some buddies from MI6community? In black tie at the Royal Albert Hall? Or in IMAX?
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    RC7 wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    Exemplifies how risk averse studios are.

    What do you mean exactly?

    Skyfall is a huge success so every studio wants to pump out a spy movie, now that SF has adequately covered their arses.

    That's true. But partially it's also a bit luck (because of the schedules) that this year has so many spy films :-).

    Did you read this article by the way @RC7? https://hmssweblog.wordpress.com/2015/08/02/the-hunt-for-bond-mi-connections-to-007/

    I'm curious how you will be watching the premiere of "SPECTRE". With your wife? Some buddies from MI6community? In black tie at the Royal Albert Hall? Or in IMAX?

    It's not surprising, but still disappointing that studios don't go out on a limb every so often. It's more and more predictable with time.

    I saw SF at the Albert Hall, obviously I wouldn't mind doing that again with SP. The word has gone out to industry friends, so I'll wait and see if anyone comes up trumps. Otherwise I'll be doing what I usually do and watching it three times on opening day. First showing, second showing, a break for food and then a final evening showing. I'll be watching at the BFI IMAX.

  • Posts: 11,119
    RC7 wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    Exemplifies how risk averse studios are.

    What do you mean exactly?

    Skyfall is a huge success so every studio wants to pump out a spy movie, now that SF has adequately covered their arses.

    That's true. But partially it's also a bit luck (because of the schedules) that this year has so many spy films :-).

    Did you read this article by the way @RC7? https://hmssweblog.wordpress.com/2015/08/02/the-hunt-for-bond-mi-connections-to-007/

    I'm curious how you will be watching the premiere of "SPECTRE". With your wife? Some buddies from MI6community? In black tie at the Royal Albert Hall? Or in IMAX?

    It's not surprising, but still disappointing that studios don't go out on a limb every so often. It's more and more predictable with time.

    I saw SF at the Albert Hall, obviously I wouldn't mind doing that again with SP. The word has gone out to industry friends, so I'll wait and see if anyone comes up trumps. Otherwise I'll be doing what I usually do and watching it three times on opening day. First showing, second showing, a break for food and then a final evening showing. I'll be watching at the BFI IMAX.

    THREE times on one day. You are a nerd @RC7 hehe :-P. Also one IMAX-showing?
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    RC7 wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    Exemplifies how risk averse studios are.

    What do you mean exactly?

    Skyfall is a huge success so every studio wants to pump out a spy movie, now that SF has adequately covered their arses.

    That's true. But partially it's also a bit luck (because of the schedules) that this year has so many spy films :-).

    Did you read this article by the way @RC7? https://hmssweblog.wordpress.com/2015/08/02/the-hunt-for-bond-mi-connections-to-007/

    I'm curious how you will be watching the premiere of "SPECTRE". With your wife? Some buddies from MI6community? In black tie at the Royal Albert Hall? Or in IMAX?

    It's not surprising, but still disappointing that studios don't go out on a limb every so often. It's more and more predictable with time.

    I saw SF at the Albert Hall, obviously I wouldn't mind doing that again with SP. The word has gone out to industry friends, so I'll wait and see if anyone comes up trumps. Otherwise I'll be doing what I usually do and watching it three times on opening day. First showing, second showing, a break for food and then a final evening showing. I'll be watching at the BFI IMAX.

    THREE times on one day. You are a nerd @RC7 hehe :-P. Also one IMAX-showing?

    No, all three IMAX.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Three IMAX viewings in one day? You're taking me, @RC7, correct?
  • RC7RC7
    edited August 2015 Posts: 10,512
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Three IMAX viewings in one day? You're taking me, @RC7, correct?

    If you're in the UK, you're welcome to come along!

    1CCTLaD.jpg

    These are my SF tickets from opening day. They're in a picture frame now, alongside my Premiere ticket and booklet.
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    RC7 wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Three IMAX viewings in one day? You're taking me, @RC7, correct?

    If you're in the UK, you're welcome to come along!

    1CCTLaD.jpg

    These are my SF tickets from opening day. They're in a picture frame now, alongside my Premiere ticket and booklet.

    It's really nice man :). Sadly, Barcelona is low on IMAX-screens. As a matter of fact, it doesn't have IMAX screens :-(
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    That's awesome. I'd love to be in the UK for the premiere (two weeks early - can't complain with that), but I'm stuck in lowly WV here in the States waiting until November.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    1CCTLaD.jpg

    17.50 POUNDS!!!! PER TICKET !!! :-O :-O

    THAT'S 25 FRACKING EURO!!!!!


    No wonder Skyfall made a billion!!!! Doesn't take much with such prices!!!!

    :))
  • Posts: 11,119
    Ufff, I am perspiring. This certainly is quite a busy spy year #:-S

    :-P.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    How that got anything other than a 0/10 is beyond me. The trailers speak for themselves: bad editing, bad acting, bad CGI, and a total, complete lack of staying loyal to the games. He's not even bald like Agent 47 should be, his head is obviously shaved.
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    Suddenly "UNCLE" looks like a masterpiece next to "Hitman 47" :-P
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Hitman isn't a Spy movie. It's about a Clone Assassin who goes around the world killing people. He's not even a spy.
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    Murdock wrote: »
    Hitman isn't a Spy movie. It's about a Clone Assassin who goes around the world killing people. He's not even a spy.

    It is an action movie, with some action elements that also go with spy movies. Just read the opening post. So it's in the mix.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,362
    Murdock wrote: »
    Hitman isn't a Spy movie. It's about a Clone Assassin who goes around the world killing people. He's not even a spy.

    It is an action movie, with some action elements that also go with spy movies. Just read the opening post. So it's in the mix.

    That doesn't make any sense.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I wouldn't consider 'Furious 7,' 'Hitman: Agent 47,' and 'The Transporter Refueled' to be spy films.
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    Murdock wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    Hitman isn't a Spy movie. It's about a Clone Assassin who goes around the world killing people. He's not even a spy.

    It is an action movie, with some action elements that also go with spy movies. Just read the opening post. So it's in the mix.

    That doesn't make any sense.

    The list on the 1st page says "Spy/Action Movies of 2015". Moreover, spy films are merely a sub-genre of action blockbusters and thriller blockbusters.

    All the films in my list are carefully selected. And based on what I know of them, they have similarities with spy movies. In "Furious 7" there's this unnamed CÍA chief who is very much like Hurley in "Mission: Impossible", 'M' in James Bond and Waverly in "U.N.C.L.E.".

    Anyway, the list will stay like this.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,362
    Murdock wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    Hitman isn't a Spy movie. It's about a Clone Assassin who goes around the world killing people. He's not even a spy.

    It is an action movie, with some action elements that also go with spy movies. Just read the opening post. So it's in the mix.

    That doesn't make any sense.

    The list on the 1st page says "Spy/Action Movies of 2015". Moreover, spy films are merely a sub-genre of action blockbusters and thriller blockbusters.

    All the films in my list are carefully selected. And based on what I know of them, they have similarities with spy movies. In "Furious 7" there's this unnamed CÍA chief who is very much like Hurley in "Mission: Impossible", 'M' in James Bond and Waverly in "U.N.C.L.E.".

    Anyway, the list will stay like this.

    Whatever you say but this is a "Spy" Craze thread as you call it. Not Spy/Action craze thread. Hitman isn't a Spy movie, nor is Furious 7.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    edited August 2015 Posts: 41,011
    I understand that they're action movies, I just think it's a stretch to consider some of them spy movies based on some random character who appears for a portion of the movie. I don't think anyone would consider something like 'Furious 7' a 'spy' film if you asked them. But, your list, you shape it how you'd like!

    I'm still waiting for the ultimate (hopefully) spy movie of the year: SP!
  • RC7RC7
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    Yes, some very liberal definitions of 'spy' on here.
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    RC7 wrote: »
    Yes, some very liberal definitions of 'spy' on here.

    Yeah great no ;-)?

    Anyway, here's a nice article about the strong women of this year's spy films. And "SPECTRE" is yet to come ;-):

    http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/08/spy-movies-women
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    RC7 wrote: »
    Yes, some very liberal definitions of 'spy' on here.

    Yeah great no ;-)?

    No. Pointless.
  • edited August 2015 Posts: 11,119
    Let's have a look at the top grossing blockbusters of this year so far :-) (Monday August 24th 2015):

    01. --> $ 1,622,867,980: "Jurassic World" (Production budget: $ 215 Million. Now the highest grossing film of 2015, 3rd highest grossing film ever)??)
    $ 639,568,000: Box office USA
    $ 228,740,000: Box office China
    $ 754,559,980: Rest of the world


    02. --> $ 1,512,966,527: "Furious 7" (Production budget: $ 275 Million. They just passed "The Avengers" in The 5th highest grossing film on the 'All Time Global Box Office Ranking'.)
    $ 351,032,910: Box office USA
    $ 390,910,000: Box office China
    $ 771,023,617: Rest of the world


    03. --> $ 1,401,213,387: "Avengers 2: Age Of Ultron" (Production budget: $ 340 Million. Now the 6th film in the global 'All Time' ranking!)
    $ 457,413,387: Box office USA
    $ 240,110,000: Box office China
    $ 703,690,000: Rest of the world


    04. --> $ 0,989,365,325: "Minions" (Production budget: $ 150 Million. Passed "Despicable Me 2"s global box office of $ 970 Million. Now certified 4th '1 Billion Dollar' film of 2015 )
    $ 319,965,325: Box office USA
    *not opened yet in China*
    $ 669,400,000: Rest of the world


    And let's not forget the "Spy Films" of 2015! Now with updated figures on "The Man From U.N.C.L.E." and "M:I 5 - Rogue Nation":

    09. --> $ 438,563,039: "Mission: Impossible 5 - Rogue Nation" (Production budget: $ 200 Million. So far slightly less succesful than "M:I 4 - Ghost Protocol", at least in the USA. But that will change with China)
    $ 157,763,039: Box office USA
    *not opened yet in China*
    $ 280,800,000: Rest of the world


    10. --> $ 406,794,884: "Kingsman: The Secret Service" (Production budget: $ 115 Million. The surprise box office hit of 2015. Part 2 is in pre-production)
    $ 128,261,724: Box office USA
    $ 074,667,000: Box office China
    $ 203,866,160: Rest of the world


    15. --> $ 328,130,237: "Taken 3" (Production budget: $ 83 Million. Not as succesful as "Taken 2", but still grossing well past the $ 300 Million)
    $ 089,256,424: Box office USA
    $ 032,200,000: Box office China
    $ 206,673,813: Rest of the world


    20. --> $ 234,873,121: "Spy" (Production budget: $ 100 Million. As of now the most succesful film ever featuring Melissa McCarthy)
    $ 110,141,000: Box office USA
    *not opened yet in China*
    $ 124,732,121: Rest of the world


    47. --> $ 052,636,840: "The Man From U.N.C.L.E." (Production budget: $ 120 Million. Too early to call it a flop, as the foreign roll-out is just taking place)
    $ 026,636,840 : Box office USA
    *not opened yet in China*
    $ 026,000,000: Rest of the world


    62. --> $ 030,418,560: "Mortdecai" (Production budget: $ 85 Million. Call it a funnier spoof of "Ocean's Eleven" and "The Saint". But, a big flop)
    $ 007,696,134 : Box office USA
    $ 003,530,000: Box office China
    $ 019,192,426: Rest of the world


    69. --> $ 019,228,339: "Blackhat" (Production budget: $ 100 Million. And therefore one of the biggest flops of 2015. Entire budget is lost)
    $ 007,889,395: Box office USA
    *not opened yet in China*
    $ 011,338,944: Rest of the world


    81. --> $ 015,569,265: "The Gunman" (Production budget: $ 60 Million. Even a star cast containing Sean Penn, Javier Bardem and Idris Elba couldn't help this film)
    $ 010,664,749: Box office USA
    *not opened yet in China*
    $ 004,904,516: Rest of the world



    An impressive box office year indeed. "JW" crossed the $1.6 Billion, "F7" (non-3D, non-Sci-fi) crossed the $1.5 Billion and "Avengers 2" crossed the $1.4 Billion. With "Minions" already certified to cross the $1.0 Billion, it becomes very likely that "SPECTRE" will enter the TOP 5 of highest grossing films of 2015. And "Star Wars" still needs to shatter all the above box office figures.

    THE 'SPY FILMS' OF 2015
    "Mission: Impossible 5 - Rogue Nation" is still holding very well in the USA, but it's not holding as strong as "Mission: Impossible 2" and "Mission: Impossible 4 - Ghost Protocol". Same goes for the foreign territories. So it will depend on the China box office take if it can cross the $ 700 Million global figure of "GP". Also with ticket price inflation, "RN" isn't as succesful in the USA as compared to "Mission: Impossible 1" and "Mission: Impossible 2".......so far.

    The definition of 'flop' is rather big, but I personally think if a movie loses money -entire production is higher than global box office take- it's a certified financial flop. By that definition "Mortdecai", "Blackhat" and "The Gunman" are big flops, but "The Man From U.N.C.L.E." is not......yet. It could do a break-even figure, taking into account the production budget and the foreign roll-out. It's holdover after one week has been OK in the USA.

    PRODUCTION BUDGETS 2015
    The production budget figures are more accurate estimates from boxoffice.com, but they do include marketing and publicity as well. Disney's "Avengers 2" has so far the highest production budget ever, with $340 Million, followed by "Furious 7"s $ 275 Million.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    To break even is considered a flop too.
    Spectre will break one record though, it will shatter Avengers AOU in terms of highest budget ever.
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    To break even is considered a flop too.
    Spectre will break one record though, it will shatter Avengers AOU in terms of highest budget ever.

    Not likely. "SPECTRE"s leaked production budget is -all-inclusive- around $300 to $320 Million, which falls short of "Avengers 2"s $340 Million.

    Also, let's wait a bit if adjustments are being made. These are estimations.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    To break even is considered a flop too.
    Spectre will break one record though, it will shatter Avengers AOU in terms of highest budget ever.

    Your "facts" need checking and amending.
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